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BW Patch 1.18.6 is Live - Page 14

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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 19 2017 18:33 GMT
#261
On April 19 2017 05:44 Bakuryu wrote:
for safety reasons, backup your bw folder before patching


my broodwar folder has dust xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Filco
Profile Joined October 2013
France156 Posts
April 19 2017 18:34 GMT
#262
Hi everyone. I don't know why but I can only download / install a french version of the 1.18. I have already tried to change the defeault language on my blizzard account to english and download it while logged in, from the english page, but it does not work. The issue is that with the game in french, I get french hotkeys, which are just not playable. Could you tell me how to install the english version of the game please?
Filco Channel on youtube for fpvs, replays, tutorials and thoughts on the game.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 19 2017 18:35 GMT
#263
this 1.18 is to early ... to much shit needs fixing why they do this ...
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 19 2017 18:37 GMT
#264
On April 20 2017 03:35 Drake wrote:
this 1.18 is to early ... to much shit needs fixing why they do this ...


More people to test --> faster improvements. vanilla 1.18 isn't the goal here. Remastered 1.18 is the goal. That is what likely has a deadline, not this.
rand0MPrecisi0n
Profile Joined February 2017
313 Posts
April 19 2017 18:40 GMT
#265
On April 20 2017 03:37 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 03:35 Drake wrote:
this 1.18 is to early ... to much shit needs fixing why they do this ...


More people to test --> faster improvements. vanilla 1.18 isn't the goal here. Remastered 1.18 is the goal. That is what likely has a deadline, not this.


Your reasoning goes out the window once you see how many problems have already been reported in the PTR and are still in this version
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 19 2017 18:41 GMT
#266
On April 20 2017 03:32 Airhead86 wrote:
Some weird stuff going on.. just played a 4v4 hunter on europe and i was terran and started with 3 scv and one drone. one of my allys could even move my units around ?


This is a game mode called "team melee". Shared control of the same set of units.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 19 2017 18:43 GMT
#267
On April 20 2017 03:40 rand0MPrecisi0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 03:37 Mohdoo wrote:
On April 20 2017 03:35 Drake wrote:
this 1.18 is to early ... to much shit needs fixing why they do this ...


More people to test --> faster improvements. vanilla 1.18 isn't the goal here. Remastered 1.18 is the goal. That is what likely has a deadline, not this.


Your reasoning goes out the window once you see how many problems have already been reported in the PTR and are still in this version


Problems reported on PTR does not mean they are a top priority. In the end, the vanilla version of BW is likely of very little importance to Blizzard. I mean, this is kind of a matter of fact rather than up for interpretation. When else have we ever seen Blizzard shove stuff out the door in a giant mess? Bug here, gamebreaking bug there is normal for Blizzard, but this is like an alpha version.

Either they don't have a QA team (unlikely) or this is an intentionally aggressive method of meeting their more important deadline.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 19 2017 18:48 GMT
#268
On April 20 2017 03:43 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 03:40 rand0MPrecisi0n wrote:
On April 20 2017 03:37 Mohdoo wrote:
On April 20 2017 03:35 Drake wrote:
this 1.18 is to early ... to much shit needs fixing why they do this ...


More people to test --> faster improvements. vanilla 1.18 isn't the goal here. Remastered 1.18 is the goal. That is what likely has a deadline, not this.


Your reasoning goes out the window once you see how many problems have already been reported in the PTR and are still in this version


Problems reported on PTR does not mean they are a top priority. In the end, the vanilla version of BW is likely of very little importance to Blizzard. I mean, this is kind of a matter of fact rather than up for interpretation. When else have we ever seen Blizzard shove stuff out the door in a giant mess? Bug here, gamebreaking bug there is normal for Blizzard, but this is like an alpha version.

Either they don't have a QA team (unlikely) or this is an intentionally aggressive method of meeting their more important deadline.



don't mind either way. Out of pure egoism (wanting to play the game like im used to) im gonna stick to 1.16 until 1.18 has more to offer. Which includes ladder for me and tournaments on the server.
Broodwar for life!
rand0MPrecisi0n
Profile Joined February 2017
313 Posts
April 19 2017 18:49 GMT
#269
On April 20 2017 03:43 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 03:40 rand0MPrecisi0n wrote:
On April 20 2017 03:37 Mohdoo wrote:
On April 20 2017 03:35 Drake wrote:
this 1.18 is to early ... to much shit needs fixing why they do this ...


More people to test --> faster improvements. vanilla 1.18 isn't the goal here. Remastered 1.18 is the goal. That is what likely has a deadline, not this.


Your reasoning goes out the window once you see how many problems have already been reported in the PTR and are still in this version


Problems reported on PTR does not mean they are a top priority. In the end, the vanilla version of BW is likely of very little importance to Blizzard. I mean, this is kind of a matter of fact rather than up for interpretation. When else have we ever seen Blizzard shove stuff out the door in a giant mess? Bug here, gamebreaking bug there is normal for Blizzard, but this is like an alpha version.

Either they don't have a QA team (unlikely) or this is an intentionally aggressive method of meeting their more important deadline.


They most likely don't have a QA team for this project, as can be seen by the state of the first PTR. They could also have a terrible one. Regardless, remastered success lies very close to vanilla, so releasing a mess of a patch is not a good idea. Surely it is an 'intentionally aggressive method', but it's also a 'horrendously retarded method'
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 19 2017 18:53 GMT
#270
On April 20 2017 01:41 trutaCz wrote:
It's super bad now. Community is splitted, some of ppl gonna play 1.16 icc, some 1.16 fish, some 1.18 with bugs,,

What did you expect?
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
April 19 2017 18:58 GMT
#271
On April 20 2017 03:35 Drake wrote:
this 1.18 is to early ... to much shit needs fixing why they do this ...


At this point, I'm relatively certain this was some dumb manager or an idiot executive saying "we have a deadline to meet, I don't care how broken it is, just release it". The patch is literally unplayable for pro players. I suspect that they have a schedule leading up to the release of SC:R in the summer and the patch may have already been "late". Therefore they just shoved it through so they could stick to the deadlines instead of adjusting the deadlines.

It really is unfortunate, but at least we still have 1.16 to play on, while Blizz fixes its trainwreck of a patch.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 19 2017 18:58 GMT
#272
On April 20 2017 03:49 rand0MPrecisi0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 03:43 Mohdoo wrote:
On April 20 2017 03:40 rand0MPrecisi0n wrote:
On April 20 2017 03:37 Mohdoo wrote:
On April 20 2017 03:35 Drake wrote:
this 1.18 is to early ... to much shit needs fixing why they do this ...


More people to test --> faster improvements. vanilla 1.18 isn't the goal here. Remastered 1.18 is the goal. That is what likely has a deadline, not this.


Your reasoning goes out the window once you see how many problems have already been reported in the PTR and are still in this version


Problems reported on PTR does not mean they are a top priority. In the end, the vanilla version of BW is likely of very little importance to Blizzard. I mean, this is kind of a matter of fact rather than up for interpretation. When else have we ever seen Blizzard shove stuff out the door in a giant mess? Bug here, gamebreaking bug there is normal for Blizzard, but this is like an alpha version.

Either they don't have a QA team (unlikely) or this is an intentionally aggressive method of meeting their more important deadline.


They most likely don't have a QA team for this project, as can be seen by the state of the first PTR. They could also have a terrible one. Regardless, remastered success lies very close to vanilla, so releasing a mess of a patch is not a good idea. Surely it is an 'intentionally aggressive method', but it's also a 'horrendously retarded method'


All sources close to or in anyway involved with Blizzard's classic game development have said they have a surprisingly large team. Blizzard has done QA for a long time and if the team is already large, I doubt the QA team is small or nonexistent.

When you consider how much BW has been on Blizzard's radar the past 5 years, it makes sense that they would be brazen with their patching for the sake of the holy grail: BW remastered. The people Blizzard are trying to reach with BW remastered are not likely to give 2 shits about playing classic BW. I played BW on ICCUP years ago, but I don't give 2 shits about classic BW when remastered is right around the corner. I don't see any reason to waste time with 1.18 classic when 1.16 is solid and 1.18 remastered is on the horizon.

There is going to be very little reason to ever play classic BW once remastered is in full gear. This is a step towards something greater.
Velitation
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-19 18:59:54
April 19 2017 18:59 GMT
#273
On April 20 2017 03:34 Filco wrote:
Hi everyone. I don't know why but I can only download / install a french version of the 1.18. I have already tried to change the defeault language on my blizzard account to english and download it while logged in, from the english page, but it does not work. The issue is that with the game in french, I get french hotkeys, which are just not playable. Could you tell me how to install the english version of the game please?


Those language settings are for the Blizzard App (Formerly Battle.net App), which is for recent games. You have to uninstall Starcraft 1.18 and delete the \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Blizzard Entertainment\Classic Launcher\s1t registry key (Use RegEdit). Then reinstall Starcraft 1.18. You should have an option to choose language again.
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
April 19 2017 19:03 GMT
#274
On April 20 2017 03:53 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 01:41 trutaCz wrote:
It's super bad now. Community is splitted, some of ppl gonna play 1.16 icc, some 1.16 fish, some 1.18 with bugs,,

What did you expect?



I expected a patch which actually works
yo~.~
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
April 19 2017 19:04 GMT
#275
On April 20 2017 03:58 Mohdoo wrote:

There is going to be very little reason to ever play classic BW once remastered is in full gear. This is a step towards something greater.

Part of the marketing was that BW classic would be on the same servers and compatible with Remastered w/o any difference, so it's not that surprising that people are bitter.
maniac1122
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States111 Posts
April 19 2017 19:08 GMT
#276
This patch messed my broodwar up.

Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
twitch.tv/maniac1122 go follow please
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
April 19 2017 19:10 GMT
#277
On April 20 2017 04:04 Meepman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 03:58 Mohdoo wrote:

There is going to be very little reason to ever play classic BW once remastered is in full gear. This is a step towards something greater.

Part of the marketing was that BW classic would be on the same servers and compatible with Remastered w/o any difference, so it's not that surprising that people are bitter.


After this patch I'm wondering if classic will be compatible or "compatible" (as in, yea it works, kinda, sorta, not really) with SC:R.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 19 2017 19:16 GMT
#278
With all the issues being reported, I am surprised Blizzard released this. I mean some of these problems would be known if they did any testing after PTR? Felt like they had to rush this out. Hopefully they can fix these issues soon..
When I think of something else, something will go here
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
April 19 2017 19:20 GMT
#279
On April 19 2017 20:06 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
Yeah, ppl play it like for 20 years and everyone was used to it and now its so ****** hard to move hand to other part of keyboard LOL @ these new generations xd


when you are 38 years old married with children's, you dont have that amount of time to expend on practicing idiotics hotkeys on a modern ERA, we are in 2017 not 1998.

bro there is a reason why they remove key bidding on the 1.18, and its because that could throw year of practice from pros vs new comers... what im saying is they dont want to lose their 1million hotkey practice to someone that just started the game fresh and changed the hotkeys to something more easy to use...

you can lose a lot of time doing marines at [M] rather than just [A] or laying mine just a [E] instead of [i]

this is a issue for me and many others that dont like original starcraft broodwar hotkeys anymore... what they need to do is add the key rebinding back and ban hotkey rebinding for BIG TOURNAMENTS OR SO.


How may help u?
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
April 19 2017 19:25 GMT
#280
Stop expecting to be insanely good if you're 38 years old and can't spend time on a game. You'd really think someone that's 38 understands that not everything in life has to be catered to his specific needs.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
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