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WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 23:53:53
February 14 2016 23:53 GMT
#141
On February 15 2016 03:01 Poopfeast 024 wrote:
never-say-die mentality

They don't call it a Fantasy GG for nothing
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
February 14 2016 23:57 GMT
#142
On February 15 2016 08:19 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 08:13 tanngard wrote:
On February 15 2016 03:20 WrathSCII wrote:


On February 15 2016 03:01 Poopfeast 024 wrote:
sea, bisu jaedong, nada, yellow, effort, zero, and now flash

we only need jaedong now and the circle is complete



Why everyone keep forgetting FanTaSy?


I hope people dont forget the second best terran of the "last generation". If he would come back i'm frankly worried for the racial balance haha

I saw some posts you wrote about fantasy's sc2 career. It actually inspired me to watch my first and only sc2 game ever (fantasy vs soO). Fantasy was so cool, he basically wasn't among the most mechanical skilled players, but made up for it with tailor made strategy, guerilla warfare and a never-say-die mentality to become among the best. He was unique. The only terran that could give Flash a real fight in a series.

Flash is back. Yay


I think Fantansy/Flash might finally push away the Bisu dominance and maybe Bisu have to be now 100% serious and play them or be a pussy and excuse himself for "military".

I hope that Bisu can pass down the baton to Rain for the next Protoss in line. That would keep the storyline interesting:
- If you can be good at SC2, you can also be good at BW.
- More SC2 guys might switch over like Innovation, sOs, etc.
- Means more influcts of players.
- Keeping the SKT line alive

If BW can continue on for just 2 more years, we'll see amazing players coming back from the army/going to army to stream BW.

I think if we can wait like couple of more years where the fans themselves are in prominent position in companies to start investing in BW again, that would be the ultimate dream for sure.


I would not say that Bisu is really dominant seeing he has lost the two previous finals he was in. But overall he is the best player i agree. He was soooo very disappointed after losing the VNSL to effort. He did not even want to be a part of the second place ceremony because he was so angry I think that shows he still has a burning desire to win again.

If think Flash would fear Effort just as much as Bisu.

Rain is still in training to become great again. If the switch had not happened, Rain most certainly would have become one of the best in BW back in 2012. I'm also very happy kal is back. I think he must be very motivated to win a league, seeing he was one of the greatest protoss without a starleague win back in the kespa days.

Many people think about games as an artform. Just like we wont stop being interested in the music or films of the past, why would we stop taking interest in legendary games? Sure the great majority of people are interested in the new and shiny, but that does not mean that there wont survive a rather large community devoted to a game like BW by people with a genuine interest of gaming and esport. BW made esport become what it is. BW is a RTS game with 6 different matchups with all completely different dynamics. Talk about diversity. BW is a game with a strong history. BW is a miracle. The last balancing patch was in early 2001. The history of the game has evolved through the collective effort of competive gamers. BW is to beautiful to just fade away to give room for the next 'fad'
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 00:24:42
February 15 2016 00:13 GMT
#143
i don't think there will ever be new players ... this game is from 98' and the society now is moving at light speed, especially in the entertainment/technology area, so thinking to have "new players" for Brood War is pretty much a kimera ... some old players can come back and new players from SC2 can try it out if they are really into SC ... but beside this ...
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
February 15 2016 00:17 GMT
#144
On February 15 2016 07:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 07:10 letian wrote:
On February 15 2016 05:05 WinterViewbot420 wrote:
On February 15 2016 04:59 plasmidghost wrote:
I'm actually so hyped for this, the resurrection of the best eSport is getting closer every day!

I followed Brood War for a very long time but never actually played it. It wasn't until a couple of months ago I actually picked up the game and played it myself. I know the history of the game in and out, but I was never part of it. Just a spectator.

Every day I see the Fish population growing, more lobbies, more people in chats, clans are taking in new people all the time, and the community is just a lot more upbeat compared to what I've seen and even when I first got on Fish. Ygosu is really active, Naver cafes are picking up speed, it's just amazing to see how quickly this game is picking up steam in Korea again.

It feels great knowing I'm not the only one that's hopped on the next Brood War train. As somebody that speaks Korean and English and is involved with both scenes, I can just see the growth.

Too bad iCCup is still a trash bin though. Shameless plug: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/503777-600-fish-maps-again

I try to be optimistic, but there is no future unless we see some young players coming.
Where are they?
Flash and other blokes are nice, but they are just old-timers who once again stand up to bring back all the sweet memories.

Seriously, they should make BW a national sport.


I think we are in the rebuilding phase.

The structure have to be rebuild in order to progress further.

And having those players back WILL generate more interests in ACTUALLY going to Fish to maybe even face against the great and improve one's skills.

Please be optimistic guys, this infighting is depressive....

I agree with this. With more players returning, the scene is gaining star value. Star value is what brought fangirls, players dreaming to be like Boxer, so on and so forth.

In the past, you had to go through a grueling Courage tournament in order to even get a progamer license, had to be part of a proteam and live in a house with them and work on their schedule, which prevented players from having productive lives outside of the game.

Now, the entry point is "be good." The best players get recognition, viewers, and balloons. They play and stream when they want. Of course personality plays a factor in this as well, but that's besides the point. I am saying all of this to illustrate the fact that now you don't have to put your IRL on hold, just dedicate more of your free time to practice. There is a much less convoluted, systematic, and prohibitive entry process for BW players to go big, thanks to afreeca. I think this might be a better foundation than the old system at aggregating new players.

I was talking about this with someone just earlier today: I think that BW's resurgence is a testament to its timelessness and endurance. We've gone through the dark ages and are now on our second wind. There is no reason to not be optimistic about the future of BW.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 00:21:42
February 15 2016 00:21 GMT
#145
about lag, the thing is if you are further from Fish server, you lag more on Fish than on ICCup, so then ICCup is better for latency quality. That's my case. If your connection is great you may not lag anywhere, cool, but in my country the internet isn't always that good, and I'm closer to ICCup^^
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 00:24:07
February 15 2016 00:23 GMT
#146
Great news, after months of speculation!

Looking forward to Flash FPVODs ad infinitum
Liquipedia
Glowsphere
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
United States170 Posts
February 15 2016 00:28 GMT
#147
fuck yesssss
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
February 15 2016 01:09 GMT
#148
On February 15 2016 09:13 Xeln4g4 wrote:
i don't think there will ever be new players ... this game is from 98' and the society now is moving at light speed, especially in the entertainment/technology area, so thinking to have "new players" for Brood War is pretty much a kimera ... some old players can come back and new players from SC2 can try it out if they are really into SC ... but beside this ...


You know that it is Korea we are talking about, it is easier to get new players in BW than in SC2 by far.
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
February 15 2016 01:32 GMT
#149
On February 15 2016 10:09 palexhur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 09:13 Xeln4g4 wrote:
i don't think there will ever be new players ... this game is from 98' and the society now is moving at light speed, especially in the entertainment/technology area, so thinking to have "new players" for Brood War is pretty much a kimera ... some old players can come back and new players from SC2 can try it out if they are really into SC ... but beside this ...


You know that it is Korea we are talking about, it is easier to get new players in BW than in SC2 by far.

Should add that technologically Korea is really backwards. What good is 500/500 internet if you're using it to watch 2000kbps streams on IE8 and all your websites look like they're from the late 90s lol
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
February 15 2016 02:22 GMT
#150
Just discovered this news, seems like it'll be nice side work for him.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
The Intrepid
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada205 Posts
February 15 2016 02:45 GMT
#151
On February 14 2016 19:14 Seeker wrote:
I'm excited as well but let's keep the memes and image macros to a minimum shall we? ^^


On February 14 2016 21:26 esdf wrote:
I'm spraying *** everywhere!
mod edit - removed NSFW language



WTF????

Have there been changes made to TL that I'm not aware of?
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 02:51:01
February 15 2016 02:50 GMT
#152
On February 15 2016 02:46 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
God: what your name?

eonzerg: thats not your business

:D :D :D

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

if welcome4 turns out to be FlaSh lool

@The Intrepid. There's a lot more leniency in this thread but NSFW language is still a no no.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 03:52:11
February 15 2016 02:56 GMT
#153
On February 15 2016 06:24 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 06:21 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
lol
ok but to call it trash bin?? there is still pretty high skill, its not like we don't lag on Fish too
but its true the population isn't very big.. still games going on all the time
i don't know, I just like Iccup, Fish is cool too and most likely plain better if you speak kor or don't lag or both^^


fish has korean players so the skill is better,but they are bm,they are dishackers.they also waste their time msging players and bmeing like crazy person,and the most sad is we cant report them.i also can confirm that koreans are more bm than foreigners ...


probably because you are a well known foreigner in that server (you ign and ping is a dead giveaway) so they are free to do their bm/abuse whatever. they seldom do that stuff to other koreans (or if they think you are one of their own).
also, manner begets manner

On February 15 2016 10:32 WinterViewbot420 wrote:
Should add that technologically Korea is really backwards. What good is 500/500 internet if you're using it to watch 2000kbps streams on IE8 and all your websites look like they're from the late 90s lol


never thought i will see "korea" and "technologically backwards" in the same sentence. korea has one of the best internet infrastructure in the world. compared to the US where you get price gouged by shitty ISPs for shit internet in certain places.
1) more koreans (especially the young) are starting to use chrome. IE is still mandatory for banking transactions so they are forced to retain that.
2)only their older or mainstream/established sites. More and more sites are using the modern more minimalist look. "all your websites" is just silly generalization.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
February 15 2016 05:07 GMT
#154
So glad he is going to be streaming BW and not SC2 =)
Hope it will also bring a bit more attention to BW for the upcoming english afreeca broadcasts, since alot of people have never even watched BW.
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
February 15 2016 05:25 GMT
#155
i have a strong feeling that other ex broodwar players will follow, now that flash is back. besides with flash coming back, ratings are going to sky rocket.
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 06:22:57
February 15 2016 06:22 GMT
#156
I'm excited to see his fpv and his strategic insight into the various matchups. I'm also pretty cautious. It's true that other terran players like Sea, light etc... play differently from Flash, however, aside from the strategic bit, I just don't see how watching flash will feel like an improvement over other strong and notable terran players atm. Maybe in several months time, they'll be eclipsed by Flash who will dominate the Afreeca scene but that's too early to tell. So, really, my advice is for everyone not to overhype themselves unless we see flash's gameplay first hand
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 07:35:16
February 15 2016 07:23 GMT
#157
On February 15 2016 06:49 Waxangel wrote:
Nice, I wonder how well his "secret" practice has served him? I don't exactly expect god-mode Flash, but still...


I hope Fantasy turns in so wee could have on old school TvT with two players that didn't practice for a long time

I don't think he'll crush everyonee but still. Seeing him pplay BW again bring so much nostalgia. Too bad i can't understand KR
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
February 15 2016 07:33 GMT
#158
I guess Bisu must be like: shit my playtime is over, I have to actually practice now
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 15 2016 07:36 GMT
#159
On February 15 2016 16:33 NinjaToss wrote:
I guess Bisu must be like: shit my playtime is over, I have to actually practice now


Bisu is more something like : "Shine is Observer to GSL. PLEASE STAY THERE !"

He is so affraid to him coming back to BW than FlaSh :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
ionONE
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany605 Posts
February 15 2016 07:40 GMT
#160
6 days left, i cant wait ...
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