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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
December 22 2017 16:06 GMT
#4321
On December 19 2017 22:09 B-royal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 21:39 ajmbek wrote:
On December 19 2017 20:54 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
matchmaker for me doesn't really give satisfaction now, europe server seems almost dead, most of the time searching for game it doesn't find one like half the time or something, I'm not sure I'm gonna keep playing
most people seem to be gone
feels like next time I may try iccup instead lol, it will feel good running slick 1.16. iccup even with low population was much more handy to find games..


lol, there is more people on europe at every time of the day than it was on Iccup at any moment in the last 5 years or so


Wrong.

Europe right now has 234 players online. And these numbers are commonplace.

During weekends iCCup would routinely hit 400 players.


According to starlog.gg the European Server has 60-600 players on any given day. As you said yourself, iccup would hit 400 peak on weekends. Iccup would also have 50-200 during most weekdays. I think it's quiet apparent that any Remastered server is more popular than Iccup was in 2017. Of course pre SC2, iccup had way more users than the eu server has now. Also keep in mind that the matchmaking is global, so even if only 10 people were playing on Europe it wouldn't mean matchmaking takes forever. I find games in 10-60 seconds 24/7. I think long que times are either related to your MMR or your internet connection.
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
December 22 2017 16:23 GMT
#4322
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Writer
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
December 22 2017 17:36 GMT
#4323
On December 23 2017 01:23 Ty2 wrote:
I just witnessed the most epic Jaedong vs. Flash macro game on CB. + Show Spoiler +
Seriously, Jaedong pulled off a larva tier macro game. He didn't do some 22 minute all-in attack that gets held off by Flash like he's done before. He played to the maps strengths of taking over his half of the map quickly while defending Flash's attacks and doing some incredible counters. Truly epic. I will link the VOD when I get a chance.


I need to see it!
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada536 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-22 18:34:25
December 22 2017 18:22 GMT
#4324
On December 23 2017 02:36 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2017 01:23 Ty2 wrote:
I just witnessed the most epic Jaedong vs. Flash macro game on CB. + Show Spoiler +
Seriously, Jaedong pulled off a larva tier macro game. He didn't do some 22 minute all-in attack that gets held off by Flash like he's done before. He played to the maps strengths of taking over his half of the map quickly while defending Flash's attacks and doing some incredible counters. Truly epic. I will link the VOD when I get a chance.


I need to see it!
+ Show Spoiler +


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Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
December 22 2017 19:15 GMT
#4325
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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-22 19:34:36
December 22 2017 19:20 GMT
#4326
On December 23 2017 01:06 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 22:09 B-royal wrote:
On December 19 2017 21:39 ajmbek wrote:
On December 19 2017 20:54 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
matchmaker for me doesn't really give satisfaction now, europe server seems almost dead, most of the time searching for game it doesn't find one like half the time or something, I'm not sure I'm gonna keep playing
most people seem to be gone
feels like next time I may try iccup instead lol, it will feel good running slick 1.16. iccup even with low population was much more handy to find games..


lol, there is more people on europe at every time of the day than it was on Iccup at any moment in the last 5 years or so


Wrong.

Europe right now has 234 players online. And these numbers are commonplace.

During weekends iCCup would routinely hit 400 players.


According to starlog.gg the European Server has 60-600 players on any given day. As you said yourself, iccup would hit 400 peak on weekends. Iccup would also have 50-200 during most weekdays. I think it's quiet apparent that any Remastered server is more popular than Iccup was in 2017. Of course pre SC2, iccup had way more users than the eu server has now. Also keep in mind that the matchmaking is global, so even if only 10 people were playing on Europe it wouldn't mean matchmaking takes forever. I find games in 10-60 seconds 24/7. I think long que times are either related to your MMR or your internet connection.

It seems that when you make new account and your MMR is around 1500-1700, the queue often fails to find game, but maybe less so after 1700 been my experience so far~ erratic
it was easier to find and play game on iccup at D anytime^^ but if it does work consistent 10-60 sec 24/7 after 1700 or so, that's good
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-22 19:45:10
December 22 2017 19:44 GMT
#4327
I have been using a profile with less than 20 match made games played (1600 MMR) all day and still had the same 10-60 sec wait time. I did create it back in September though.
Of course if you can host you get constant games with like 5 sec wait time on iccup. SCR seems to be better at actually matching me with people on my level, though.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-23 00:31:36
December 22 2017 19:56 GMT
#4328
On December 23 2017 01:06 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 22:09 B-royal wrote:
On December 19 2017 21:39 ajmbek wrote:
On December 19 2017 20:54 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
matchmaker for me doesn't really give satisfaction now, europe server seems almost dead, most of the time searching for game it doesn't find one like half the time or something, I'm not sure I'm gonna keep playing
most people seem to be gone
feels like next time I may try iccup instead lol, it will feel good running slick 1.16. iccup even with low population was much more handy to find games..


lol, there is more people on europe at every time of the day than it was on Iccup at any moment in the last 5 years or so


Wrong.

Europe right now has 234 players online. And these numbers are commonplace.

During weekends iCCup would routinely hit 400 players.


According to starlog.gg the European Server has 60-600 players on any given day. As you said yourself, iccup would hit 400 peak on weekends. Iccup would also have 50-200 during most weekdays. I think it's quiet apparent that any Remastered server is more popular than Iccup was in 2017. Of course pre SC2, iccup had way more users than the eu server has now. Also keep in mind that the matchmaking is global, so even if only 10 people were playing on Europe it wouldn't mean matchmaking takes forever. I find games in 10-60 seconds 24/7. I think long que times are either related to your MMR or your internet connection.
Well 'way' more I think is a bit of an exaggeration. Before sc2's announcement ICCUP was hovering around 700-800 players daily, and jumped to over a grand for a while after it was announced. Its been years so my memory isnt the most reliable, but I dont think iccup ever had more than like 1k or so players a day.

@Promethus: The server your on doesnt relate in any way to match making, its a global ladder. If you get cancelled games once they are found, its because someone cancelled the search or they lagged out, its just a glitch. SC:R has way more people than BW did just before it was released, both foreign and korean.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
December 22 2017 21:15 GMT
#4329
Okay, what the hell.

I just played 15 ladder games. Out of those i had 13 ZvZ and 2 ZvPs. No terrans anywhere and what the fuck is wrong with Zs?

It simply can't be that there are only Z players. Especially on the MMR Levels 1700-1800 i think there should be waaay more protoss players, and of course some terrans, too. Anyone else experiencing these laughable racial distributions? Is this some matchmaking bug or are there actually Zerg players only? From my experience Z used to be the underrepresented race because it was the hardest to get into.

This is really frustrating. It's cool to have some ZvZ from time to time, but really, 8 games in a row?
AManHasNoName
Profile Joined September 2017
United States165 Posts
December 22 2017 21:48 GMT
#4330
On December 23 2017 06:15 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
Okay, what the hell.

I just played 15 ladder games. Out of those i had 13 ZvZ and 2 ZvPs. No terrans anywhere and what the fuck is wrong with Zs?

It simply can't be that there are only Z players. Especially on the MMR Levels 1700-1800 i think there should be waaay more protoss players, and of course some terrans, too. Anyone else experiencing these laughable racial distributions? Is this some matchmaking bug or are there actually Zerg players only? From my experience Z used to be the underrepresented race because it was the hardest to get into.

This is really frustrating. It's cool to have some ZvZ from time to time, but really, 8 games in a row?


I've been hovering around 2100-2300 for a while now and pretty much only play ZvP and ZvZ. About 1 game in 20 in ZvT, 6 in 20 ZvP and 13 in 20 ZvZ. That's with an ~250 game sample size.

I am actually in the process of trying to learn P now, just cause I'm so tired of ZvZ.

I have found that it's much more likely to get T opponents during Korean peak hours. (~4AM-10AM CST) And also when I started a new profile to practice P I ran into a few T players early on. Seems like they get much more rare above 1800 or so.
“To love the journey is to accept no such end. I have found, through painful experience, that the most important step a person can take is always the next one.”
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 22 2017 22:30 GMT
#4331
On December 23 2017 06:15 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
Okay, what the hell.

I just played 15 ladder games. Out of those i had 13 ZvZ and 2 ZvPs. No terrans anywhere and what the fuck is wrong with Zs?

It simply can't be that there are only Z players. Especially on the MMR Levels 1700-1800 i think there should be waaay more protoss players, and of course some terrans, too. Anyone else experiencing these laughable racial distributions? Is this some matchmaking bug or are there actually Zerg players only? From my experience Z used to be the underrepresented race because it was the hardest to get into.

This is really frustrating. It's cool to have some ZvZ from time to time, but really, 8 games in a row?



Unfortunately this is common at that MMR. I only got ZvZ, some ZvP and ZvT was rare. Once you hit 2k you start getting a lot more terran's, but yeah... Not very fun.
When I think of something else, something will go here
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-22 22:59:59
December 22 2017 22:57 GMT
#4332
On December 23 2017 04:56 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2017 01:06 Lorch wrote:
On December 19 2017 22:09 B-royal wrote:
On December 19 2017 21:39 ajmbek wrote:
On December 19 2017 20:54 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
matchmaker for me doesn't really give satisfaction now, europe server seems almost dead, most of the time searching for game it doesn't find one like half the time or something, I'm not sure I'm gonna keep playing
most people seem to be gone
feels like next time I may try iccup instead lol, it will feel good running slick 1.16. iccup even with low population was much more handy to find games..


lol, there is more people on europe at every time of the day than it was on Iccup at any moment in the last 5 years or so


Wrong.

Europe right now has 234 players online. And these numbers are commonplace.

During weekends iCCup would routinely hit 400 players.


According to starlog.gg the European Server has 60-600 players on any given day. As you said yourself, iccup would hit 400 peak on weekends. Iccup would also have 50-200 during most weekdays. I think it's quiet apparent that any Remastered server is more popular than Iccup was in 2017. Of course pre SC2, iccup had way more users than the eu server has now. Also keep in mind that the matchmaking is global, so even if only 10 people were playing on Europe it wouldn't mean matchmaking takes forever. I find games in 10-60 seconds 24/7. I think long que times are either related to your MMR or your internet connection.
Well 'way' more I think is a bit of an exaggeration. Before sc2's announcement ICCUP was hovering around 700-800 players daily, and jumped over a grand for a while after it was announced. Its been years so my memory isnt the most reliable, but I dont think iccup ever had more than like 1k or so players a day.

@Promethus: The server your on doesnt relate in any way to match making, its a global ladder. If you get cancelled games once they are found, its because someone cancelled the search or they lagged out, its just a glitch. SC:R has way more people than BW did just before it was released, both foreign and korean.

well what I was getting isn't that glitch/cancel where it restarts after finding the match, it's it wasn't finding a match even after 130+secs (while displaying estimated 50) kinda consistantly when my account was new these last days
but now it seems better after I passed like 1700 points, I am getting games now within 50sec it seems most of the time
it could be that there is too few players near around 1500 for some reason or idk why it didn't connect to a global 1500 points or what
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5758 Posts
December 23 2017 01:45 GMT
#4333
did they fix the alt tabbing problem and it freezing streams? :o
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10401 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-23 03:04:31
December 23 2017 03:04 GMT
#4334
What the fuck is this 5: 9 Connection lost trying to advertise game? Never had this issue before.

I swear if Blizzard makes it so I can't host anymore I'm going to flip a fucking shit.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
December 23 2017 05:50 GMT
#4335
On December 23 2017 12:04 Jealous wrote:
What the fuck is this 5: 9 Connection lost trying to advertise game? Never had this issue before.

I swear if Blizzard makes it so I can't host anymore I'm going to flip a fucking shit.
Having the same issue. Relax, im sure its just a glitch that will be patched out shortly.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
December 23 2017 13:22 GMT
#4336
+ Show Spoiler +
Soulkey is 2:0 vs Flash right now, playing the third game


seems like the way to go for Z is to let T get a bank of 8k and then sauron it
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 25 2017 14:56 GMT
#4337
just wanna say that I am loving the new maps. i never realized how good it was to be able to play maps that are not Fighting spirit. We had CB and a couple others last season, but having so much more this time around has been a blessing. I am loving Tau Cross especially. Not sure why but that map has been good to me. I think it's because of the huge open spaces.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51705 Posts
January 01 2018 05:14 GMT
#4338
apparently tiny land got dmca'd and his channel got deleted from youtube, rip.
Commentator
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3173 Posts
January 01 2018 05:28 GMT
#4339
Damn, I liked his channel to. I was wondering what happened to him. Curious as to what video got him shut down.
Artosis loves Starcraft
shall_burn
Profile Joined January 2016
252 Posts
January 01 2018 11:10 GMT
#4340
I was looking for a video by Firebathero where he demonstrates various bugs of BW.
Cannot find the video.
Can anyone provide me with a link, please?
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