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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 07 2017 12:21 GMT
#4301
On December 07 2017 20:58 Qikz wrote:
Hopefully they add some standard, but less used maps like La Mancha or Grand Line SE. I would love to see some more 3P and 2P maps.Especially something like Polaris Rhapsody.


Giving Qikz control of the map pool could be what puts the nail in StarCraft Remastered's coffin.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12029 Posts
December 07 2017 13:42 GMT
#4302
On December 07 2017 21:21 SCC-Faust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2017 20:58 Qikz wrote:
Hopefully they add some standard, but less used maps like La Mancha or Grand Line SE. I would love to see some more 3P and 2P maps.Especially something like Polaris Rhapsody.


Giving Qikz control of the map pool could be what puts the nail in StarCraft Remastered's coffin.


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Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
December 08 2017 07:42 GMT
#4303
On December 07 2017 20:58 Qikz wrote:
Hopefully they add some standard, but less used maps like La Mancha or Grand Line SE. I would love to see some more 3P and 2P maps.Especially something like Polaris Rhapsody.

What about Pathfinder??
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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-08 13:09:14
December 08 2017 13:07 GMT
#4304
Rolf pathfinder & polaris rhapsody. Yes guys these are a perfect fit a ladder map balance all good idears

Gringing at seros posts xxx lov you sero
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-18 04:14:15
December 18 2017 04:12 GMT
#4305
An attempt at objectively identifying the differences between BW and SC2 game design-wise by Brownbear and Thorin (a rather big esports personality, ~250k YT subs, but mainly a CS/LoL guy). Why are the games different, why were they made that way, what divides the communities.

Michael Probu
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-19 11:53:41
December 19 2017 11:53 GMT
#4306
brownbear opened with smtg along the lines of "bw is mechanical with some strategy, sc2 is strategy with some mechanics", its not true, bw has both more mechanics and strategy, it's obvious if you play both
this has been talked about since SC2 came out. some ppl tried arguing that reducing mechanics would improve strategy. it's not true. SC2 mostly is a simplified, more easily accessible game, and starcraft 1 is the harder, more complex and competitive game, it just takes a lot more skill. Not just because its mechanically harder, but because of the overall picture, better design, etc.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-19 12:00:19
December 19 2017 11:54 GMT
#4307
matchmaker for me doesn't really give satisfaction now, europe server seems almost dead, most of the time searching for game it doesn't find one like half the time or something, I'm not sure I'm gonna keep playing
most people seem to be gone
feels like next time I may try iccup instead lol, it will feel good running slick 1.16. iccup even with low population was much more handy to find games..
ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
December 19 2017 12:39 GMT
#4308
On December 19 2017 20:54 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
matchmaker for me doesn't really give satisfaction now, europe server seems almost dead, most of the time searching for game it doesn't find one like half the time or something, I'm not sure I'm gonna keep playing
most people seem to be gone
feels like next time I may try iccup instead lol, it will feel good running slick 1.16. iccup even with low population was much more handy to find games..


lol, there is more people on europe at every time of the day than it was on Iccup at any moment in the last 5 years or so
Sic iter ad astra
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-19 12:57:15
December 19 2017 12:49 GMT
#4309
maybe at peak time but rest of the day its around 100-200 ppl connected or less? anyway the automatchmaker only finds games if... you are at the right mmr range maybe, half the time when I connect it won't find me a game. seems that custom games ladder with channel works better on low pop, idk
anyway it doesnt rly do it for me right now I guess
(just tried again, estimated time 59s, I wait a little longer than twice the amount, no game, half the time like this maybe more)
(220~ ppl online, iccup always had a few hundreds i think)
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6835 Posts
December 19 2017 12:58 GMT
#4310
On December 19 2017 21:49 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
maybe at peak time but rest of the day its around 100-200 ppl connected or less? anyway the automatchmaker only finds games if... you are at the right mmr range maybe, half the time when I connect it won't find me a game. seems that custom games ladder with channel works better on low pop, idk
anyway it doesnt rly do it for me right now I guess
(just tried again, estimated time 59s, I wait a little longer than twice the amount, no game, half the time like this maybe more)
(220~ ppl online, iccup always had a few hundreds i think)

man im playing 2700 and i find games instantly
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-19 13:06:49
December 19 2017 13:04 GMT
#4311
yeah idk why it doesnt work like that, not good for me
i made a new account, long time to get games (or, can't get a game, try later, half the time), boring
actually I made several new accounts try to connect to other gateways see if it helps, but not that much
I guess you have to be in the right mmr range where there are many active players idk
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
December 19 2017 13:09 GMT
#4312
On December 19 2017 21:39 ajmbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 20:54 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
matchmaker for me doesn't really give satisfaction now, europe server seems almost dead, most of the time searching for game it doesn't find one like half the time or something, I'm not sure I'm gonna keep playing
most people seem to be gone
feels like next time I may try iccup instead lol, it will feel good running slick 1.16. iccup even with low population was much more handy to find games..


lol, there is more people on europe at every time of the day than it was on Iccup at any moment in the last 5 years or so


Wrong.

Europe right now has 234 players online. And these numbers are commonplace.

During weekends iCCup would routinely hit 400 players.
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craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
December 19 2017 17:04 GMT
#4313
On December 19 2017 22:09 B-royal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 21:39 ajmbek wrote:
On December 19 2017 20:54 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
matchmaker for me doesn't really give satisfaction now, europe server seems almost dead, most of the time searching for game it doesn't find one like half the time or something, I'm not sure I'm gonna keep playing
most people seem to be gone
feels like next time I may try iccup instead lol, it will feel good running slick 1.16. iccup even with low population was much more handy to find games..


lol, there is more people on europe at every time of the day than it was on Iccup at any moment in the last 5 years or so


Wrong.

Europe right now has 234 players online. And these numbers are commonplace.

During weekends iCCup would routinely hit 400 players.

I think it is key to see how many games are being played. A couple of days ago I was online from morning until evening, yet the number of games being played did not go above 100 despite there being a steady rise in total number of players online.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 19 2017 19:02 GMT
#4314
On December 19 2017 20:53 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
brownbear opened with smtg along the lines of "bw is mechanical with some strategy, sc2 is strategy with some mechanics", its not true, bw has both more mechanics and strategy, it's obvious if you play both
this has been talked about since SC2 came out. some ppl tried arguing that reducing mechanics would improve strategy. it's not true. SC2 mostly is a simplified, more easily accessible game, and starcraft 1 is the harder, more complex and competitive game, it just takes a lot more skill. Not just because its mechanically harder, but because of the overall picture, better design, etc.

Doesn't surprise me that people here wouldn't understand where brownbear is coming from. People here already have their clear narrative. Could be said about thorin as well though, he didn't really seem interested in design talk, a lot of the questions were phrased in a way to come to the conclusion that bw > sc2. But i guess he at least admitted that he is no authority on it and that he prefers bw, so maybe i am a bit unfair with that criticism.
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AManHasNoName
Profile Joined September 2017
United States165 Posts
December 19 2017 23:28 GMT
#4315
OMG, the patch today fixed Windowed (Fullscreen) mode. Thank you Blizzard!

That bug was making my life so sad lol
“To love the journey is to accept no such end. I have found, through painful experience, that the most important step a person can take is always the next one.”
ReTr0[p.S]
Profile Joined March 2005
Argentina1590 Posts
December 20 2017 02:03 GMT
#4316
Windowed Fullscreen works again (it was working before the last patch then got broken), but now my game is crashing randomly with no error message. Blizzard is already on it though:


----------------------------------
Greetings,

This is unrelated to our patch. We have identified the issue and should have a fix within 3-4 hours. Thank you for your patience.

-Matt

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20760676001?page=1#post-20
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10705 Posts
December 20 2017 02:59 GMT
#4317
On December 20 2017 11:03 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:
but now my game is crashing randomly with no error message. Blizzard is already on it though:


----------------------------------
Greetings,

This is unrelated to our patch. We have identified the issue and should have a fix within 3-4 hours. Thank you for your patience.

-Matt

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20760676001?page=1#post-20


Ugh....it keeps happening to me too.. >_<
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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
December 20 2017 03:16 GMT
#4318
On December 20 2017 04:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 20:53 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
brownbear opened with smtg along the lines of "bw is mechanical with some strategy, sc2 is strategy with some mechanics", its not true, bw has both more mechanics and strategy, it's obvious if you play both
this has been talked about since SC2 came out. some ppl tried arguing that reducing mechanics would improve strategy. it's not true. SC2 mostly is a simplified, more easily accessible game, and starcraft 1 is the harder, more complex and competitive game, it just takes a lot more skill. Not just because its mechanically harder, but because of the overall picture, better design, etc.

Doesn't surprise me that people here wouldn't understand where brownbear is coming from. People here already have their clear narrative. Could be said about thorin as well though, he didn't really seem interested in design talk, a lot of the questions were phrased in a way to come to the conclusion that bw > sc2. But i guess he at least admitted that he is no authority on it and that he prefers bw, so maybe i am a bit unfair with that criticism.

it's not a narrative though, it's experience^^
not sure that brownbear has much bw experience
i'm not going into that video again to detail but yeah there was a consistent.. well narrative by brownbear, it's a story, it's not reality and it doesn't actually compare the two games together. When he describes the tactical movement of SC2, he fails to explain how these also exist in bw but are more varied and more numerous in bw for example.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-20 03:24:56
December 20 2017 03:24 GMT
#4319
On December 20 2017 02:04 craz3d wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 22:09 B-royal wrote:
On December 19 2017 21:39 ajmbek wrote:
On December 19 2017 20:54 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
matchmaker for me doesn't really give satisfaction now, europe server seems almost dead, most of the time searching for game it doesn't find one like half the time or something, I'm not sure I'm gonna keep playing
most people seem to be gone
feels like next time I may try iccup instead lol, it will feel good running slick 1.16. iccup even with low population was much more handy to find games..


lol, there is more people on europe at every time of the day than it was on Iccup at any moment in the last 5 years or so


Wrong.

Europe right now has 234 players online. And these numbers are commonplace.

During weekends iCCup would routinely hit 400 players.

I think it is key to see how many games are being played. A couple of days ago I was online from morning until evening, yet the number of games being played did not go above 100 despite there being a steady rise in total number of players online.

so what do you think of the activity on europe server? good to play on, or better move elsewhere? I was considering just playing on us west. For custom games it seems good. Still don't know if it would give better results with auto matchmaker, only tried very few times.
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
December 20 2017 11:46 GMT
#4320
SCR is on sale for $10 on Bnet store.
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