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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10232 Posts
October 05 2017 15:12 GMT
#4241
On October 05 2017 22:37 sLimze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 22:13 EsportsJohn wrote:
On October 05 2017 21:57 sLimze wrote:
Noob bitching:

Fuck lurkers. At my level there so dumb because they just take a massive shit on MnM... of course with proper micro its not bad but damn you mess up woop there goes my army i feel like MnM needs a lot more control. All the zergs at my level never do muta opening only lurker ._. but don't worry ik late game zerg is very hard to control. end rant

Edit: Also, does anyone have any advice on what to do after 1 rax FE against lurker opening? Anything specific?


Just wait until you get up against Zerg players who can actually muta micro. That's far worse than lurkers, imo.

Push out with your first mnm group and try to deny the first base. If he already has lurkers on the ramp, just keep that army in front of the 4th so they can't take it for free. Accelerate your tech to fast double starport and build double vessel -> 4 dropships. Drop the main and 3rd while pressuring the front with your bio/vessel force. Don't walk into lurkers.

Oh i'm sure it is. I've played against a smurf with good muta micro and see at least with muta im impressed. Lurker is pretty brain dead unless your doing some cool hold position attack or something but never had it happen to me yet.

I forget who said this but there is a great thing I heard about stuff like this: when you stop giving your opponent/their strat/build any respect and start calling it bullshit or braindead, that's when you stop treating it as a hill to climb and start seeing it as a wall to avoid. Like people who start a game against Random player and immediately leave. Or people who fail to learn to parallel park for their driving test because "that's bullshit." Maybe it is you who sends MnM without scan who is braindead? Imagine if Protoss never used Observer against you, and just sent their army everywhere when you have mines... Would it be fair to say that mines/your strat are braindead?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6768 Posts
October 05 2017 15:14 GMT
#4242
im f*cked
sLimze
Profile Joined April 2017
26 Posts
October 05 2017 15:55 GMT
#4243
On October 06 2017 00:12 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 22:37 sLimze wrote:
On October 05 2017 22:13 EsportsJohn wrote:
On October 05 2017 21:57 sLimze wrote:
Noob bitching:

Fuck lurkers. At my level there so dumb because they just take a massive shit on MnM... of course with proper micro its not bad but damn you mess up woop there goes my army i feel like MnM needs a lot more control. All the zergs at my level never do muta opening only lurker ._. but don't worry ik late game zerg is very hard to control. end rant

Edit: Also, does anyone have any advice on what to do after 1 rax FE against lurker opening? Anything specific?


Just wait until you get up against Zerg players who can actually muta micro. That's far worse than lurkers, imo.

Push out with your first mnm group and try to deny the first base. If he already has lurkers on the ramp, just keep that army in front of the 4th so they can't take it for free. Accelerate your tech to fast double starport and build double vessel -> 4 dropships. Drop the main and 3rd while pressuring the front with your bio/vessel force. Don't walk into lurkers.

Oh i'm sure it is. I've played against a smurf with good muta micro and see at least with muta im impressed. Lurker is pretty brain dead unless your doing some cool hold position attack or something but never had it happen to me yet.

I forget who said this but there is a great thing I heard about stuff like this: when you stop giving your opponent/their strat/build any respect and start calling it bullshit or braindead, that's when you stop treating it as a hill to climb and start seeing it as a wall to avoid. Like people who start a game against Random player and immediately leave. Or people who fail to learn to parallel park for their driving test because "that's bullshit." Maybe it is you who sends MnM without scan who is braindead? Imagine if Protoss never used Observer against you, and just sent their army everywhere when you have mines... Would it be fair to say that mines/your strat are braindead?


You're taking me too seriously. In the grand scheme of things in this game i actually don't think anything is ACTUALLY bullshit. But the fact that im bad at marine micro makes it brain dead for the enemy zerg.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 05 2017 16:10 GMT
#4244
On October 06 2017 00:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
im f*cked


If you start a gofundme I'm sure a lot of people will donate to your cancer treatment dude.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
October 05 2017 18:03 GMT
#4245
On October 05 2017 21:57 sLimze wrote:
Noob bitching:

Fuck lurkers. At my level there so dumb because they just take a massive shit on MnM... of course with proper micro its not bad but damn you mess up woop there goes my army i feel like MnM needs a lot more control. All the zergs at my level never do muta opening only lurker ._. but don't worry ik late game zerg is very hard to control. end rant

Edit: Also, does anyone have any advice on what to do after 1 rax FE against lurker opening? Anything specific?

Until you get more experience or more muta openings, I would advise you to always go 2 rax academy after expanding. With this opening you can contain the Zerg before lurkers are out if they opened with 3 hatch lurker while you can tech fast off 2-3rax. With the faster tech you can also occasionally win with a 3tank/1 vessel pre-defiler push.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 13 2017 13:56 GMT
#4246
I paid $15 for this.

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I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
October 15 2017 03:33 GMT
#4247
Hey there, I was just watching Bisu playing vs a zerg named Akvogkfrpdy, anyone knows who that is?
and also, someone tell me where can I find the updated list of expro's akas for Sc: Rm, if there is one.


Standard Queens
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
October 20 2017 14:39 GMT
#4248
On July 29 2017 10:49 K.H.J wrote:
Addtional news.

OSL will return.

Format will be alike Vant 36.5.

Sea gives me this info.

From February, i continuously mentioned OSL's returns.

Now, it become real.

But Sea cant participate in this new league.

He did spoiler after oksusu legend match,

So OGN dont like him.


Any official news on OSL coming anytime soon?
P⊧[1]<a>[2]<a>[3]<a>tt | P ≝ 1.a.2.a.3.a.P
Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
October 26 2017 22:35 GMT
#4249
Oh fuck off Blizzard.

[image loading]

Tried to update and they gifted me this. Their "repair tool" is useless, it didn't do shit and still gives this error.
6 trillion
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 05:53:33
October 27 2017 05:52 GMT
#4250
thank you jealous. ive always been getting stasis first without knowing about this. btw, u don't sound russia at all. ^^

can we just take a moment to say thank you to bisu for using HD mode instead of SD. he finally switched!!!
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 28 2017 17:29 GMT
#4251
I was thinking today what BW would be like if we had title matches. Basically to avoid the problem of one half of the bracket being stacked and the semi-finals or quarter-finals having a more interesting match than the finals. ie: a system where people have to play a tournament to earn the challenge match against the defending champion. Which of course would be Flash.

Maybe it would have worked better in the past when there was a lot more BW to play, since the champions greatest reward would be focusing on proleague matches. These days maybe the air-time on TV is so valuable that it would actually be a punishment to only get to play one day.

But at the same time... You could make the champ match so epic, even having greater liberty to play with the format. Maybe giving a month after the tournament final for both players to ultra prepare.

Retrospectively, I wonder if it would have been better or worse in the KeSPA days. Almost all finals were very good then, with the only exception being ZvZ. Honestly maybe it would have been worse, I never really watched any sport that used this system, even though I'm pretty sure that's how Go works. I guess it's more valuable when you run a school or take apprentices to have a title. We had the idea of current S-class in BW, but never really current champion. In BW you're champion for one day. Even when you win a golden mouse, it's kind of a brief moment of glory.

tldr: what do you think of titles in BW?
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
jowelsgrry
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
45 Posts
October 28 2017 19:43 GMT
#4252
On October 29 2017 02:29 Chef wrote:

tldr: what do you think of titles in BW?


Do you mean kinda like boxing/MMA titles with various titleholders?
Life advices and barbecue tips!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10232 Posts
October 28 2017 22:24 GMT
#4253
On October 27 2017 14:52 Golgotha wrote:
thank you jealous. ive always been getting stasis first without knowing about this. btw, u don't sound russia at all. ^^

can we just take a moment to say thank you to bisu for using HD mode instead of SD. he finally switched!!!

My pleasure!

I've been living in New Jersey for over 10 years, so I speak fluent New Joizeyan, but Russia will always be the motherland.

Personally, I still prefer to play in SD pillarbox or whatever it's called.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-28 22:31:28
October 28 2017 22:31 GMT
#4254
That 'got eliminated by the eventual winner in ro8 but could be 2nd best in tournament' is solved by double elimination, BUT
all starleagues had group stages, be it little double elim groups(MSL dual tournament) or OSL's Round Robins, which determined the seeds for eventual single elim brackets.

and also, looking back imo proleague >> starleague
storylines, hype, team strategy, team depth, map strategy, sniping(match up specialists), occasional Winners League (All-Kill format), Grand Finals...
Shame we won't have that ever again >_<
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 18:22:51
November 15 2017 18:19 GMT
#4255
How long is this maintenance supposed to take?

Ok its back online. Crisis averted.
Hello World!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5188 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-18 14:39:27
November 18 2017 14:34 GMT
#4256
Very enjoyable late game TvT right now on Merz' stream. Essentially Ghost/nuke vs BC/medic.
Edit: It's over. I'll try to post a VOD later.
FBH #1!
seNsiX
Profile Joined July 2012
United States22 Posts
November 18 2017 15:05 GMT
#4257
Hey all, so I just got SC:R after not playing any BW for like 8 years, and I was wondering where the best places to get ladder games are? I'm currently playing the "ranked" ladder that came with SC:R, but I barely get any matches, and most of the time just load into an empty lobby with no opponent before restarting the queue. Are most people still on ICCup or Fish or whatever other server?
hydrogg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States377 Posts
November 18 2017 21:23 GMT
#4258
Are custom hotkeys 100% the standard now (ladder/casual matches/etc.)? I wanna change mine but not if I'm going to have to switch back and forth between games.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5188 Posts
November 22 2017 16:56 GMT
#4259
On November 19 2017 06:23 hydrogg wrote:
Are custom hotkeys 100% the standard now (ladder/casual matches/etc.)? I wanna change mine but not if I'm going to have to switch back and forth between games.

If they aren't allowed you can simply just not join the game. It's allowed on default by blizzard. Recent Korean as well as foreign tournaments all seem to allow it.
Don't bother playing with the few elitists who don't allow it, not your loss.
FBH #1!
AManHasNoName
Profile Joined September 2017
United States165 Posts
November 22 2017 17:09 GMT
#4260
On November 19 2017 00:05 seNsiX wrote:
Hey all, so I just got SC:R after not playing any BW for like 8 years, and I was wondering where the best places to get ladder games are? I'm currently playing the "ranked" ladder that came with SC:R, but I barely get any matches, and most of the time just load into an empty lobby with no opponent before restarting the queue. Are most people still on ICCup or Fish or whatever other server?


Most people are currently playing on the Remastered ladder. The issue with the blank enemy side then getting requeued is almost always because you need to open/forward port 6112 on your router. portforward.com is a great resource if you need assistance.
“To love the journey is to accept no such end. I have found, through painful experience, that the most important step a person can take is always the next one.”
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