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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
October 04 2017 16:10 GMT
#4221
I don't think it's about these seconds / extra points on energy update, it's about money. Money is very critical in this moment of a game and I'd rather spend that on an observer/extra gateway etc.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28731 Posts
October 04 2017 17:38 GMT
#4222
yeah getting stasis first because you're broke is actually totally fair. You can definitely argue that 150/150 has more utility for the next 3 minutes than 12 more energy on two of your arbiters. But honestly, most players are nearly constantly floating 150/150 by the time arbiter production is up.
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
October 04 2017 18:11 GMT
#4223
Are the servers down or is it me ?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
October 04 2017 18:15 GMT
#4224
On October 05 2017 02:38 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yeah getting stasis first because you're broke is actually totally fair. You can definitely argue that 150/150 has more utility for the next 3 minutes than 12 more energy on two of your arbiters. But honestly, most players are nearly constantly floating 150/150 by the time arbiter production is up.

I definitely agree, and I mentioned that in the original thread where the question was posed. What I was really aiming at solving is whether there is any weight to the "Get Stasis first if you're in a crisis and need to use it sooner argument," which there was none. If you can afford both, then getting Stasis first has no point whatsoever, as regardless of which you get, you will have your first Stasis ready to be cast at the same time. I believe it was you who pointed this out in SQSA thread, which prompted me to do this mini-experiment.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Regentropfen
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany277 Posts
October 04 2017 18:15 GMT
#4225
For me as well....
Shame as today i finally mote than one hour to play :-/
War is not about whos right, its about whos left
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
October 04 2017 18:17 GMT
#4226
I got dc'd during a ladder game.. do you know if it'll count as loss/dc or draw ?
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
October 04 2017 18:56 GMT
#4227
On October 04 2017 16:28 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 16:16 jinjin5000 wrote:
Is there any solution to terrible lag? Something like port forwarded or something for SCR? I've been getting pretty laggy games with people from same city when we play team games (extra high latency+split second delay between commands and fastest game mode pretty much playing at fast or normal speed), and just now I played someone in east coast as a west coaster, and I got 1-1.5 sec input delay between commands...

Port forwarding is still a thing.



Wait do we still need to manually forward port in SC:R? I assumed that wouldve been the first thing to be fixed when starting the plan to release SC:R. Like most players don't read on TL and will never know about port forwarding.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
October 04 2017 19:45 GMT
#4228
On October 05 2017 03:56 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 16:28 Jealous wrote:
On October 04 2017 16:16 jinjin5000 wrote:
Is there any solution to terrible lag? Something like port forwarded or something for SCR? I've been getting pretty laggy games with people from same city when we play team games (extra high latency+split second delay between commands and fastest game mode pretty much playing at fast or normal speed), and just now I played someone in east coast as a west coaster, and I got 1-1.5 sec input delay between commands...

Port forwarding is still a thing.



Wait do we still need to manually forward port in SC:R? I assumed that wouldve been the first thing to be fixed when starting the plan to release SC:R. Like most players don't read on TL and will never know about port forwarding.

I heard others saying that if you constantly get the error after a match has already been found on Ladder, that it is potentially still due to port issues. Haven't verified it myself.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jon166
Profile Joined April 2004
Vietnam121 Posts
October 04 2017 21:10 GMT
#4229
ladder is trash i keep owning noobs with carriers
MarF
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada156 Posts
October 04 2017 22:18 GMT
#4230
What are some of the popular channels on US WEST server that ya'll hangout in?
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4514 Posts
October 04 2017 23:31 GMT
#4231
For some reason ASL starleague season 4 isn't on the 'ongoing tournaments' tab in liquipedia or is that just me?
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
October 04 2017 23:36 GMT
#4232
On October 05 2017 00:22 chocorush wrote:
I'm sure most pros know this. I didn't realize that those energy upgrades increased starting energy until someone pointed this fact out to me.


FYI: Dark Archons are the exception to this. Unlucky.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
October 04 2017 23:48 GMT
#4233
On October 05 2017 06:10 Jon166 wrote:
ladder is trash i keep owning noobs with carriers

What MMR you at? Asking for a friend.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 02:01:52
October 05 2017 01:58 GMT
#4234
On October 05 2017 08:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
For some reason ASL starleague season 4 isn't on the 'ongoing tournaments' tab in liquipedia or is that just me?

If the dates for a tournament aren't specified it won't show up in the ongoing tournaments list. In this case the finals date is TBA (unless I missed an announcement, in that case I could edit the enddate and as a result everything should work just fine)
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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4514 Posts
October 05 2017 02:35 GMT
#4235
On October 05 2017 10:58 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 08:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
For some reason ASL starleague season 4 isn't on the 'ongoing tournaments' tab in liquipedia or is that just me?

If the dates for a tournament aren't specified it won't show up in the ongoing tournaments list. In this case the finals date is TBA (unless I missed an announcement, in that case I could edit the enddate and as a result everything should work just fine)


Ok, untill an end date is specified it seems to me like a good idea to set a fake end date far away somewhere in 2018 so people have an easier time finding the biggest ongoing tournament through the liquipedia main page.
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probelife66
Profile Joined March 2017
142 Posts
October 05 2017 12:04 GMT
#4236
On October 05 2017 11:35 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 10:58 TheNewEra wrote:
On October 05 2017 08:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
For some reason ASL starleague season 4 isn't on the 'ongoing tournaments' tab in liquipedia or is that just me?

If the dates for a tournament aren't specified it won't show up in the ongoing tournaments list. In this case the finals date is TBA (unless I missed an announcement, in that case I could edit the enddate and as a result everything should work just fine)


Ok, untill an end date is specified it seems to me like a good idea to set a fake end date far away somewhere in 2018 so people have an easier time finding the biggest ongoing tournament through the liquipedia main page.



I agree. I've had a hard time keeping track of ASL because of this
sLimze
Profile Joined April 2017
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 12:58:49
October 05 2017 12:57 GMT
#4237
Noob bitching:

Fuck lurkers. At my level there so dumb because they just take a massive shit on MnM... of course with proper micro its not bad but damn you mess up woop there goes my army i feel like MnM needs a lot more control. All the zergs at my level never do muta opening only lurker ._. but don't worry ik late game zerg is very hard to control. end rant

Edit: Also, does anyone have any advice on what to do after 1 rax FE against lurker opening? Anything specific?
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 05 2017 13:13 GMT
#4238
On October 05 2017 21:57 sLimze wrote:
Noob bitching:

Fuck lurkers. At my level there so dumb because they just take a massive shit on MnM... of course with proper micro its not bad but damn you mess up woop there goes my army i feel like MnM needs a lot more control. All the zergs at my level never do muta opening only lurker ._. but don't worry ik late game zerg is very hard to control. end rant

Edit: Also, does anyone have any advice on what to do after 1 rax FE against lurker opening? Anything specific?


Just wait until you get up against Zerg players who can actually muta micro. That's far worse than lurkers, imo.

Push out with your first mnm group and try to deny the first base. If he already has lurkers on the ramp, just keep that army in front of the 4th so they can't take it for free. Accelerate your tech to fast double starport and build double vessel -> 4 dropships. Drop the main and 3rd while pressuring the front with your bio/vessel force. Don't walk into lurkers.
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
October 05 2017 13:25 GMT
#4239
On October 05 2017 21:57 sLimze wrote:
Noob bitching:

Fuck lurkers. At my level there so dumb because they just take a massive shit on MnM... of course with proper micro its not bad but damn you mess up woop there goes my army i feel like MnM needs a lot more control. All the zergs at my level never do muta opening only lurker ._. but don't worry ik late game zerg is very hard to control. end rant

Edit: Also, does anyone have any advice on what to do after 1 rax FE against lurker opening? Anything specific?


If they go lurkers, they won't have scourges most likely. Just go 2 port dropships. Most zerg just GG from there on.
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sLimze
Profile Joined April 2017
26 Posts
October 05 2017 13:37 GMT
#4240
On October 05 2017 22:13 EsportsJohn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 21:57 sLimze wrote:
Noob bitching:

Fuck lurkers. At my level there so dumb because they just take a massive shit on MnM... of course with proper micro its not bad but damn you mess up woop there goes my army i feel like MnM needs a lot more control. All the zergs at my level never do muta opening only lurker ._. but don't worry ik late game zerg is very hard to control. end rant

Edit: Also, does anyone have any advice on what to do after 1 rax FE against lurker opening? Anything specific?


Just wait until you get up against Zerg players who can actually muta micro. That's far worse than lurkers, imo.

Push out with your first mnm group and try to deny the first base. If he already has lurkers on the ramp, just keep that army in front of the 4th so they can't take it for free. Accelerate your tech to fast double starport and build double vessel -> 4 dropships. Drop the main and 3rd while pressuring the front with your bio/vessel force. Don't walk into lurkers.

Oh i'm sure it is. I've played against a smurf with good muta micro and see at least with muta im impressed. Lurker is pretty brain dead unless your doing some cool hold position attack or something but never had it happen to me yet.
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