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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 27 2017 16:13 GMT
#4181
On September 28 2017 01:04 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Laddering really has made me feel sad lately. 50% of the games have lag even on extra high, and overall it's just a really bad experience, makes me not wanna play.

Anyone have knowledge on good VPN's? I'd do a lot just to be able to ladder somewhat normally. But I don't know a thing about VPN's or how to get one >.>


I'd recommend Protonvpn https://protonvpn.com/vpn-servers
The heart's eternal vow
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
September 27 2017 17:35 GMT
#4182
I really don't get why they are so insisted on having one turnrate for everyone.
Just do:
kr vs kr tr 16
same server vs same server tr12
different server tr8

Display the tr at the start of the game and we are good.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-27 19:03:14
September 27 2017 19:01 GMT
#4183
On September 28 2017 01:04 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Laddering really has made me feel sad lately. 50% of the games have lag even on extra high, and overall it's just a really bad experience, makes me not wanna play.

Anyone have knowledge on good VPN's? I'd do a lot just to be able to ladder somewhat normally. But I don't know a thing about VPN's or how to get one >.>




Any confirmation if a VPN would actually help? Id buy one too if it worked.

I know the sad feeling there are like 0 popular chat channels so without ladder it feels cold and empty. Not to mention i miss the old bnet interface from BW
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-27 19:21:06
September 27 2017 19:20 GMT
#4184
I kinda stop playing cause of ladder bugs waiting on fix want less bugs discs and lag etc also responsive menus just more efficient and commands working etc this is messy
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
September 27 2017 20:25 GMT
#4185
On September 28 2017 02:35 Lorch wrote:
I really don't get why they are so insisted on having one turnrate for everyone.
Just do:
kr vs kr tr 16
same server vs same server tr12
different server tr8

Display the tr at the start of the game and we are good.


This would make too much sense for blizzard and would be too uncomplicated
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1605 Posts
September 27 2017 20:26 GMT
#4186
On September 28 2017 02:35 Lorch wrote:
I really don't get why they are so insisted on having one turnrate for everyone.
Just do:
kr vs kr tr 16
same server vs same server tr12
different server tr8

Display the tr at the start of the game and we are good.

This sounds pretty damn perfect. Too logical for Blizzard though.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
September 27 2017 22:00 GMT
#4187
Anyone can recommend me some nice channels on US.West? either for chilling, practice, etc. I feel so lonely
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
September 27 2017 22:02 GMT
#4188
i dont think theres an "official" (like clan x17 on east or op moo on europe) meetup channel on west
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
September 27 2017 22:03 GMT
#4189
Ok thanks, we should make one tho ^_^. I'm actually from east, but went on US.West in remastered since there's always like 2x the amount of people online.
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
September 27 2017 23:10 GMT
#4190
On September 28 2017 07:03 sM.Zik wrote:
Ok thanks, we should make one tho ^_^. I'm actually from east, but went on US.West in remastered since there's always like 2x the amount of people online.


Most people just organize stuff via discord these days. No one really does battle.net channels. There are quite a few large Brood War discords.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
September 28 2017 00:12 GMT
#4191
Can you explain the brood war discords and how it works with the app? Im not familiar with the app at all.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
probelife66
Profile Joined March 2017
142 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 00:37:54
September 28 2017 00:37 GMT
#4192
So you guys all voice chat via discord? That would be awesome, Id love to join a group
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 04:22:39
September 28 2017 04:20 GMT
#4193
On September 28 2017 09:12 Sadist wrote:
Can you explain the brood war discords and how it works with the app? Im not familiar with the app at all.


Discord is used heavily for games these days - from guilds/clans, to communities. It is a more convenient system to organize and get together with similar people. It also offers voice chat, and some games have added functionality (ie. You can instantly join someone's game from the discord app). For some games, it probably doesn't matter as much, but with games that have terrible chat interfaces or games that basically remove most of the social aspect of meeting people or even talking to them in-game (ie. Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm) people just realized if the game developers aren't going to include that stuff, then they'll find another way. And I guess that other way is discord, because it has gotten very popular.

I think it is very good for Brood War too, cause we are still a smaller community. Splitting up the foreign community in 5 different servers with less channel functionality than the original battle.net had is a joke. So long story short, I don't think there is ever going to be channels like the old school days. You are better off joining one of the Brood War discords if you're looking for people to active play/talk to.

Also, here is a list of Brood War discords:

Foreign Brood War - https://discord.gg/nUAchHq
Biggest one with over a thousand users. Has race strategy channels, looking4game channel, etc. A more generalized discord.

No Hunters Free For All - Link never loads for me so SOL
Probably the second biggest one. For FFA enthusiasts. It is Greth's discord, who makes those famous VODs.

Dangerous to Play Alone - https://discord.gg/3bhvGgE
Involves more games than Brood War, but there is a tight knit and friendly community for their Brood War channel. Lower-skilled, but everyone seems to play each other and help each other out.

Radio Free Zerg - https://discord.gg/6dah6Bm
Another smaller community for Brood War only. It has a porn channel, and basically that is the only channel that gets used. Whenever I post people get pissed at my pornographic taste and have to 'cleanse' the channel with traps.

Those are probably the main 4 "generalized" ones. There are discords for individual teams, for leagues (PATL comes to mind), and so much more. I am not in valar's, but valar has an awesome discord as well for beginners.





I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
September 28 2017 13:39 GMT
#4194
Thanks for the info!

Regarding the VPN to address lag with korea. Anybody have confirmation this would actually work?
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
probelife66
Profile Joined March 2017
142 Posts
September 29 2017 02:42 GMT
#4195
I signed up for mudfish to test it out. It's based on GB used so you can try like 50 gig or something for like 3 bucks.. I think it shaved off like 50 ms of ping if that..

In my experience from Australia it barely makes a difference. I'd love to hear from anyone who used a VPN that significantly improves things.
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
September 29 2017 04:16 GMT
#4196
11 PvPs in a row on the ladder.. what the fuck?
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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1553 Posts
September 29 2017 04:18 GMT
#4197
On September 29 2017 13:16 Headshot wrote:
11 PvPs in a row on the ladder.. what the fuck?


toss is most common race according to starlog.gg
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
September 29 2017 06:36 GMT
#4198
Thats one of the reasons i dont do protoss. Pvp is just sucky.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 06:54:00
September 29 2017 06:46 GMT
#4199
On September 28 2017 01:13 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 01:04 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Laddering really has made me feel sad lately. 50% of the games have lag even on extra high, and overall it's just a really bad experience, makes me not wanna play.

Anyone have knowledge on good VPN's? I'd do a lot just to be able to ladder somewhat normally. But I don't know a thing about VPN's or how to get one >.>


I'd recommend Protonvpn https://protonvpn.com/vpn-servers


I'm going to give this a try as well and report back. I have the same feeling as Ret. Locked out of ladder because as soon as you apporach like 2100:ish MMR you are starting to hit koreans like 85% ++ of the time. It's stutterish as hell even on extra high latency and the koreans banter the whole god damn game and If they lose they just disconnect. Frustratring to say the least. The turn rate 12 change was enforced september the 14th, about a week later they changed to TR10, worked well for like 3 days, now it is horrible. I'm not sure what changed, I've heard rumours that most of the koreans use wLauncher for Remastered that can brute force Turn rate 16(?) but I haven't been able to confirm this. Might be what is causing all the lag.

All in all ranked feels pretty meaningless as the MMR is heavily skewed due to disconnects/wonky choppy cheesy games/instant leaves because the game is just unplayable. I really hope Blizzard get their shit together, people paid specifically for Ranked (seeing how it is locked out of the 1.18 original version).
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
digitalctrash
Profile Joined September 2017
San Marino74 Posts
September 30 2017 06:53 GMT
#4200
Can mods remove Sea from the stream list. It's really annoying to wait 30 seconds for afreeca to load when he's never actually playing brood war, or I don't know, move him somewhere from the broodwar streams list.
thanks
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