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United States8178 Posts
On August 06 2025 20:43 TMNT wrote: Were the organizers on crack or something? I guess this is what happens when you let one guy (who is not that competent anyway) decide all the groups and maps on his own preference. are the groups handpicked? no rng at all? | ||
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TMNT
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Yes. Groups in ASL and qualifiers are always handpicked. Normally they do it to ensure a balanced distribution of PTZ in all groups. No ideas how we have a 4Z group this time. Could have easily switched Bisu and a Terran in group B to group D so we can have a TTZZ and PTZZ group. Instead, you have PTTT and ZZZZ  Genuinely baffling. | ||
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prosatan
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On August 06 2025 23:06 Ideas wrote: Pvz question: when did 1 gate FE become standard opening? I feel like it just didn’t exist basically in the kespa days. Yes! That is what I mean. | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On August 06 2025 22:39 TMNT wrote: Yes. Groups in ASL and qualifiers are always handpicked. Normally they do it to ensure a balanced distribution of PTZ in all groups. No ideas how we have a 4Z group this time. Could have easily switched Bisu and a Terran in group B to group D so we can have a TTZZ and PTZZ group. Instead, you have PTTT and ZZZZ Genuinely baffling.Nothing wrong with PTTT. I love PvT. Also, last season Speed proved there was much to TvT we haven't ever seen, even Boxer days. | ||
GTR
51693 Posts
On August 06 2025 23:06 Ideas wrote: Pvz question: when did 1 gate FE become standard opening? I feel like it just didn’t exist basically in the kespa days. sometime during the post-kespa/ssl era, i'd say 2015-2016ish? thank bisu for popularizing it. | ||
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TornadoSteve
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CHEONSOYUN
618 Posts
mini perfected abusing the opening | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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prosatan
Romania9304 Posts
Effort is watching! Maybe we will have a K league later ! | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1309 Posts
On August 06 2025 14:34 prosatan wrote: We have ASL 20 RO 24 Groups !! I will write them here , without spoilers. If you guys think i should use spoilers , tell me and i will edit them! Group A: Sharp , Ample , Larva , Stork Group B: JyJ , TY , Bisu , Speed Group C: Mini , Saber , Soma , sSak Group D: Queen , hyun , effort , calm Group E: Rush , Paralyze , Jaedong , Mong Group F: hero , BTS , Royal , Barracks ugh, some of these groups might be among the worst ever made. Group A is reasonable. makes Sense given their ASL points. But given their current shapes, anyone can win this group. Ample is in good shape, but Larva seems to be a slight bit behind where he should be, stork is stork, and Sharp I cant place at the moment because is not super active. Group B is a set-up for Bisu to fail, but he might win. Speed and JyJ have great odds vs Bisu. TY is a downgrade Speed so not giving him very high odds.TY also not mega awesome at TvT whereas JyJ and Speed are. Group C looks like a Mini and Soma victory pretty clean cut. SoMa is strongest in this group and should take it. He is an all rounder and excells at everything except odd timing all in builds. Mini's style works well vs ssak and saber. ssak is largely standard but sometimes tries to all in on odd timings, which Mini excells against, but SoMa is sometimes weak against. Saber is standard macro centric, which Mini, Soma and Ssak are good against. Group D is a crime against humanity. They probably made this group purely because we had terran and protoss groups before, but no zerg group I am sure. Group E could actually be a big surprise in the waiting. Paralyze is super aggressive and really good against standard Terran timing attacks. Paralyze has great fight control and shuttle templar play. Both Rush and Mong could get surprise defeated by this. Mong is a downgrade Rush. Similar styles but more prone to mistakes and oversights. Jaedong is good vs Paralyze but weak vs Rush, but should edge out over Mong. Probably Rush + any of the other three. Group F appears pretty clean cut but actually is not. HerO appears like the clear best player, but both RoyaL and Barracks can pull off nasty TvZ games. BTS I am giving decent odds in ZvZ, but ZvT vs RoyaL and Barracks I am counting him out. Royal va Barracks is a 50/50 coin toss. Cant call this group yet tbh. | ||
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goody153
44303 Posts
also lol shuttle never change | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On August 07 2025 19:28 goody153 wrote: The Barracks Killer game 1 from the ASL qualies is amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb0lEwA6iGc also lol shuttle never change Wow, Shuttle really pulled off a shuttle play there. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States3208 Posts
On August 06 2025 22:39 TMNT wrote: Yes. Groups in ASL and qualifiers are always handpicked. Normally they do it to ensure a balanced distribution of PTZ in all groups. No ideas how we have a 4Z group this time. Could have easily switched Bisu and a Terran in group B to group D so we can have a TTZZ and PTZZ group. Instead, you have PTTT and ZZZZ Genuinely baffling.If I had to guess, they're trying to get more Protoss in the Ro16 by having zergs knock each other out. | ||
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prosatan
Romania9304 Posts
Also, we have Zero vs Mini in a BO 7 (i think it is a chinese sponsor!) | ||
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prosatan
Romania9304 Posts
Let's watch Flash back in action ! | ||
Peeano
Netherlands5899 Posts
On August 09 2025 18:45 prosatan wrote: Flash vs Stork and Rain Easy win for Flash | ||
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