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Ranking only on entertainment:
Reach: The one and only mantoss. I can't ever find a way to root against him.
Rainbow: Best reaver control of any old-PvTer, always fun to watch. Never scared to throw something crazy in, which brings me to
Nal_rA: The dreamer; may not have won all of his big matches, but there isn't a single series in which he disappointed. Always brings something great to the table. Specifically remembering how well he executed reaver/corsair in PvZ on pretty much every map. I remember spending hours, days, weeks, learning to control them like him.
And now I stopped caring about the list, because that's all I care about.
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1. Nal_rA
2. Nal_rA
3. Nal_rA
4. Nal_rA
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I think bisu/nal_ra/stork/jangbi/reach are obviously the top 5, but the order is debatable. I wasn't around to see nal_ra or reach play (although I have watched some VODs) so I'll hold off on actually attempting to rank them.
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1. Movie
Even though he wasn't quite as good in Proleague leagues as someone like Free, Movie still has an OSL silver. Silver medals are very important because before silver medals, tournament organizers had to hold 3rd/4th place matches which nobody cared about, and ever since silver they could organize the much more important Grand Finals instead. And since he was one of the up-and-comers caught in the switch to SC2, I expect that he'd probably have won even more silvers had the OSL continued in BW. Of course there were other Protosses with silver medals like Best (OSL) and Kal (MSL), but nonetheless, Movie's micromanagement is probably the best ever, so he takes the spot. Not to mention that he achieved an understanding of PvZ that I don't think any other Protoss has been able to rival.
2. Flash (offrace)
Flash using Protoss as an offrace once beat Bisu (a strong but underrated SKT Protoss) in a very important tournament. If you don't think that's enough qualification, just use your imagination for a second and imagine Flash as a Protoss player. Right? I thought so.
3. Horang2
Horang2 didn't make it to quite as many OSL finals as other players on this list. In fact, most people on this list have been in at least one OSL final, and Horang2 has been in 0. But the reason he takes a spot is because his building placement revolutionized Protoss building pacement in the last few months of professional BW, causing players to seriously reexamine their building placement and just generally treat building placement as an axis of strategy that never existed before Horang2's building placement. Nal_rA deserves an honorable mention for his building placement as well.
4. Best
Best takes fourth place for inventing macromanagement. Before him there was no macromanagement for Protoss; Protoss players usually only had two gateways even in the very late game (20+ minute mark) and tended to lose the game against high-level Terrans with several tens of thousands of minerals in the bank and 5 zealots queued at both gateways. But then when Best started playing, people realized they should build one gateway per minute, so that at the 20 minute mark, they would have 20 gateways like Best. Best has a very good record against Flash (a player higher than him on this ranking) except in important games. Strategically, you could say that Best is a direct descendent of Oov or maybe Nada, which means he is pretty good. His corsair usage is also famous.
5. Jaehoon
Jaehoon is very well known for his extreme mechanics and heightened game sense. Strategically he is probably far ahead of everyone in this list; he would often accumulate such a huge advantage in professional games that he would toy with his opponents by doing strange and unusual maneuvers, and concede the game in a very gentlemanly way. Stork and Jaedong have often said in interviews that Jaehoon invented all of their winning strategies and build orders and for this reason, if you were feeling generous, you could attribute to Jaehoon 4 OSL gold medals and 2 MSL gold medals. Stork often said that he had so much trust in Jaehoon's build orders, particularly DT drops, that he didn't even practice them before executing them on national television.
CBNC:
Free --- the Top 5 of this list combined with Free were often called the 6 Dragons. All of these players have good Dragoon micro.
Snow --- he has beaten Flash (again, #2 on the list) and Jaedong (essentially #5 on the list when you consider that the strategies were coming from Jaehoon).
Reach --- More known for weightlifting than actually playing Protoss, but he had one or two solid 2v2 games alongside more famous players like YellOw.
Nal_rA --- Building placement. Paved the way for Horang2.
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Bisu
Stork
Nal_rA
Reach
JangBi
Anytime
Kal
Free
BeSt
I don't have any particular reasons other than how I feel about their relative impact during the times they played.
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Gotta disrespect the legends and say.
1. Bisu
2. Stork
3. JangBi
and that 2 and 3 are very close
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bisu
nal_ra
and for third I can't decide between stork and jangbi, I think stork edges him out just because he was influential over a longer period of time.
Bisu is obvious, and I like nal_ra over the samsung tosses because I weight gold very highly, and he has more proleague influence than jangbi
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On August 31 2013 00:13 chaosTheory_14cc wrote:DINOTOSS4LIFE
Yup, pretty[gm] much this. Stork was super solid for a long time, kinda playing toss like terran, but in a good way.
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 31 2013 06:02 Djabanete wrote:
1. Movie
Even though he wasn't quite as good in Proleague leagues as someone like Free, Movie still has an OSL silver. Silver medals are very important because before silver medals, tournament organizers had to hold 3rd/4th place matches which nobody cared about, and ever since silver they could organize the much more important Grand Finals instead. And since he was one of the up-and-comers caught in the switch to SC2, I expect that he'd probably have won even more silvers had the OSL continued in BW. Of course there were other Protosses with silver medals like Best (OSL) and Kal (MSL), but nonetheless, Movie's micromanagement is probably the best ever, so he takes the spot. Not to mention that he achieved an understanding of PvZ that I don't think any other Protoss has been able to rival.
2. Flash (offrace)
Flash using Protoss as an offrace once beat Bisu (a strong but underrated SKT Protoss) in a very important tournament. If you don't think that's enough qualification, just use your imagination for a second and imagine Flash as a Protoss player. Right? I thought so.
3. Horang2
Horang2 didn't make it to quite as many OSL finals as other players on this list. In fact, most people on this list have been in at least one OSL final, and Horang2 has been in 0. But the reason he takes a spot is because his building placement revolutionized Protoss building pacement in the last few months of professional BW, causing players to seriously reexamine their building placement and just generally treat building placement as an axis of strategy that never existed before Horang2's building placement. Nal_rA deserves an honorable mention for his building placement as well.
4. Best
Best takes fourth place for inventing macromanagement. Before him there was no macromanagement for Protoss; Protoss players usually only had two gateways even in the very late game (20+ minute mark) and tended to lose the game against high-level Terrans with several tens of thousands of minerals in the bank and 5 zealots queued at both gateways. But then when Best started playing, people realized they should build one gateway per minute, so that at the 20 minute mark, they would have 20 gateways like Best. Best has a very good record against Flash (a player higher than him on this ranking) except in important games. Strategically, you could say that Best is a direct descendent of Oov or maybe Nada, which means he is pretty good. His corsair usage is also famous.
5. Jaehoon
Jaehoon is very well known for his extreme mechanics and heightened game sense. Strategically he is probably far ahead of everyone in this list; he would often accumulate such a huge advantage in professional games that he would toy with his opponents by doing strange and unusual maneuvers, and concede the game in a very gentlemanly way. Stork and Jaedong have often said in interviews that Jaehoon invented all of their winning strategies and build orders and for this reason, if you were feeling generous, you could attribute to Jaehoon 4 OSL gold medals and 2 MSL gold medals. Stork often said that he had so much trust in Jaehoon's build orders, particularly DT drops, that he didn't even practice them before executing them on national television.
CBNC:
Free --- the Top 5 of this list combined with Free were often called the 6 Dragons. All of these players have good Dragoon micro.
Snow --- he has beaten Flash (again, #2 on the list) and Jaedong (essentially #5 on the list when you consider that the strategies were coming from Jaehoon).
Reach --- More known for weightlifting than actually playing Protoss, but he had one or two solid 2v2 games alongside more famous players like YellOw.
Nal_rA --- Building placement. Paved the way for Horang2.
you forgot backho and perfectman
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On August 31 2013 07:12 Hittegods wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 00:13 chaosTheory_14cc wrote:On August 30 2013 22:42 OpticalShot wrote:
STORK #1 DINOTOSS4LIFE Yup, pretty[gm] much[gm] this. Stork[gm] was super solid for a long time, kinda playing toss like terran, but in a good way.
Why stop at pretty ? fixed it for you :d
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One thing to remember is that between Stork and Bisu in 2008 (and Bisu's was against Jangbi) and Jangbi in 2011 no protoss won any SL. Protoss was in a huge slump and it was pretty incredible for Jangbi to finally pull out a win for the race.
1.Bisu
2.Stork
3.Jangbi
4.NalRa
5.Reach
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1. Bisu
2. Stork
3. Nal_rA
4. JangBi
5. Reach
6. GARIMTO
7. Kingdom
8. Best
9. Anytime
10. Grrrr...
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On August 31 2013 03:04 GeckoXp wrote:
1. Nal_rA
2. Nal_rA
3. Nal_rA
4. Nal_rA
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This list is full of win.
I really can't see Jangbi above Nal_rA, Bisu, Stork, or Reach. I'm not even sure if he even makes my #5 spot to be honest. Consistency really is super important, since there's always that random factor that can tip the scales to either side, hence why there is almost always a BoX format, to favor actual skill and weed out those who can score a lucky win but can't be consistent. Jangbi certainly deserves recognition, and when his play did come together it would come together in a glorious whirlwind storm reminiscent of a jackson pollack painting, but potentially excellent play and consistently good play are two different things.
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1.Stork
2.Jangbi
3.NalRa
4.ForU
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On August 31 2013 06:27 Ryo wrote:
1. Jangbi.
That is all.
Agree. 2 OSL golds.
+ Show Spoiler +Protoss top 5 is so incredibly hard to do compared to Terran and Zerg.
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On August 31 2013 10:12 saltywet wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 31 2013 06:02 Djabanete wrote:
1. Movie
Even though he wasn't quite as good in Proleague leagues as someone like Free, Movie still has an OSL silver. Silver medals are very important because before silver medals, tournament organizers had to hold 3rd/4th place matches which nobody cared about, and ever since silver they could organize the much more important Grand Finals instead. And since he was one of the up-and-comers caught in the switch to SC2, I expect that he'd probably have won even more silvers had the OSL continued in BW. Of course there were other Protosses with silver medals like Best (OSL) and Kal (MSL), but nonetheless, Movie's micromanagement is probably the best ever, so he takes the spot. Not to mention that he achieved an understanding of PvZ that I don't think any other Protoss has been able to rival.
2. Flash (offrace)
Flash using Protoss as an offrace once beat Bisu (a strong but underrated SKT Protoss) in a very important tournament. If you don't think that's enough qualification, just use your imagination for a second and imagine Flash as a Protoss player. Right? I thought so.
3. Horang2
Horang2 didn't make it to quite as many OSL finals as other players on this list. In fact, most people on this list have been in at least one OSL final, and Horang2 has been in 0. But the reason he takes a spot is because his building placement revolutionized Protoss building pacement in the last few months of professional BW, causing players to seriously reexamine their building placement and just generally treat building placement as an axis of strategy that never existed before Horang2's building placement. Nal_rA deserves an honorable mention for his building placement as well.
4. Best
Best takes fourth place for inventing macromanagement. Before him there was no macromanagement for Protoss; Protoss players usually only had two gateways even in the very late game (20+ minute mark) and tended to lose the game against high-level Terrans with several tens of thousands of minerals in the bank and 5 zealots queued at both gateways. But then when Best started playing, people realized they should build one gateway per minute, so that at the 20 minute mark, they would have 20 gateways like Best. Best has a very good record against Flash (a player higher than him on this ranking) except in important games. Strategically, you could say that Best is a direct descendent of Oov or maybe Nada, which means he is pretty good. His corsair usage is also famous.
5. Jaehoon
Jaehoon is very well known for his extreme mechanics and heightened game sense. Strategically he is probably far ahead of everyone in this list; he would often accumulate such a huge advantage in professional games that he would toy with his opponents by doing strange and unusual maneuvers, and concede the game in a very gentlemanly way. Stork and Jaedong have often said in interviews that Jaehoon invented all of their winning strategies and build orders and for this reason, if you were feeling generous, you could attribute to Jaehoon 4 OSL gold medals and 2 MSL gold medals. Stork often said that he had so much trust in Jaehoon's build orders, particularly DT drops, that he didn't even practice them before executing them on national television.
CBNC:
Free --- the Top 5 of this list combined with Free were often called the 6 Dragons. All of these players have good Dragoon micro.
Snow --- he has beaten Flash (again, #2 on the list) and Jaedong (essentially #5 on the list when you consider that the strategies were coming from Jaehoon).
Reach --- More known for weightlifting than actually playing Protoss, but he had one or two solid 2v2 games alongside more famous players like YellOw.
Nal_rA --- Building placement. Paved the way for Horang2.
you forgot backho and perfectman
He didn't forget them, they merely transcend Protoss. BackHo is #1 messiah, PerfectMan is just... well, perfect.
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