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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On August 24 2013 03:50 LRM)INF3cted wrote: I`ll not gonna insult anyone here , i explain why i said that. Selling Crack makes more money than, let's say, cupcakes. Should I be selling crack instead of cupcakes? | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On August 24 2013 12:23 shaftofpleasure wrote: Selling Crack makes more money than, let's say, cupcakes. Should I be selling crack instead of cupcakes? Probably. Do you sell cupcakes for a living? Take the best of both roads, sprinkle a little crack in there. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On August 24 2013 03:47 LRM)INF3cted wrote: I`ll not gonna argue whit anyone , let me put it clear - If u a smart enough and u see an possibility to get more money or anything that makes you happy or it`s really necessary just DO IT ! You need to have courage to do this , and for me this is the most important , then stand in front of everybody and say "YES I DO THAT". Maybe is way wrong in your eyes , but i can understand it.I think most of us here would do that , mostly whit no regrets.That is the other side of the coin , i`m not old but i lived enough to understand that if u get a chance u need to take it. This really seems almost like it must be a troll. Do you realize what you can rationalize with it? To start off on the ridiculous side, let's say I am one of those truly bizzare individuals that find it fulfilling and fun to torture and kill people. Under this logic, why can't I? I REALLY need it to feel normal and good about myself, and it makes me very happy to do so. Now, that is a VERY dramatic example, and dangerously close to rationalizable under your logic. A slightly less extreme example is the guy that is trying to make ends meet for his family and realizes with his skills and intelligence he could make a great hitman. He then goes out and begins ruining the lives of others and their families by killing off targets. By your logic this seems to be absolutely, totally okay. I find it difficult to believe you think that would ever in any situation, be acceptable. Then to a less extreme example, but I can show you can rationalize nearly every example of cheating. Let's take the egregious example of a decent, but not quite top level sprinter struggling to make ends meet. He sees the possibility that is he takes DHEA, HGH, and testosterone, etc he can get get good enough to medal @ the Olympics. He is a smart guy, and knows how to avoid all the testing protocols and cycle off correctly to avoid detection. It would make him really happy to get this medal, and needs the money...it's tough scraping by on my 20k per year. None of those examples are courageous. They are the polar opposite of that. Each of those individuals is a massive coward that tried to take an easy way out (except for perhaps the psycho killer)l. That's the epitome of cowardice. It takes no guts to "win at all costs", what takes guts is staying true to your principles when faced with adversity. EDIT: I honestly cannot believe that you believe what you are saying. Are we mis-understanding what you are trying to communicate? | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On August 24 2013 13:31 L_Master wrote: None of those examples are courageous. They are the polar opposite of that. Each of those individuals is a massive coward that tried to take an easy way out (except for perhaps the psycho killer)l. That's the epitome of cowardice. It takes no guts to "win at all costs", what takes guts is staying true to your principles when faced with adversity. EDIT: I honestly cannot believe that you believe what you are saying. Are we mis-understanding what you are trying to communicate? that was the entire point of this interview, to admit his guilt. not that he knew he was 'selling crack', but more of the fact he "lied on his resume to get the job/money". | ||
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Artunit
Philippines399 Posts
On August 24 2013 03:47 LRM)INF3cted wrote: I`ll not gonna argue whit anyone , let me put it clear - If u a smart enough and u see an possibility to get more money or anything that makes you happy or it`s really necessary just DO IT ! You need to have courage to do this , and for me this is the most important , then stand in front of everybody and say "YES I DO THAT". Maybe is way wrong in your eyes , but i can understand it.I think most of us here would do that , mostly whit no regrets.That is the other side of the coin , i`m not old but i lived enough to understand that if u get a chance u need to take it. But how about the people who cheered, believed and even loved you? people that even in times when you are not so doing well never abandon you? Isn't it unfair? I mean doing what makes you happy is always a good thing but the moment you start hurting someone or something that's not good anymore even if what you are doing makes you happy. Because I think what you are saying is called being selfish. Just my 2 cents. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
alot of repsect for hwasin for this. | ||
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forumtext
575 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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TaShadan
Germany1978 Posts
Still, you and the other took part in BW's demise. I cant forgive that. This. | ||
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Azelja
Japan762 Posts
... Hwasin... | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
You guys are seriously deluded if you think BW was going to go on without end, ad inifnitum, and that the end of BW came because of the match fixing scandal. | ||
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HaruHaru
United States988 Posts
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Kitai
United States876 Posts
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
On August 25 2013 14:04 Kitai wrote: Man, some people are just being really selfish here. This is a young man who has suffered more deeply than most of us could ever imagine at his age. He made two mistakes, the only victim of which was the reputation of an entertainment business, and the pain he went through was 10 times what he deserved. Some folks are in here wishing his life (and all the other guilty players' lives) was scarred even more deeply because you have some unproven feeling that he cut your entertainment a little short. That makes me a bit upset, it does. nobody is going to agree with you that it was ten times what he deserved in form of 'punishment' or negative experiences. What people are expressing is disgust and hate. The punishment he received was only to be expected and if not, then we'd truly have the beginnings of what would be a corrupt e-sports scene. Now that hatred towards the player or in his general direction is communicated through wanting more 'justice' or simply wanting them to disappear from sight. I'd say those are completely normal feelings to have. He had two influential mistakes that he had the clear conscience not to make and the ironic situation about it is that he would have enjoyed the game more, and the results of the games themselves could have been a win or loss in just the same places. You are not suddenly disallowed from being able to have selfish feelings when the causes of them are from someone who made selfish choices. | ||
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Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
On August 25 2013 14:04 Kitai wrote: Man, some people are just being really selfish here. This is a young man who has suffered more deeply than most of us could ever imagine at his age. He made two mistakes, the only victim of which was the reputation of an entertainment business, and the pain he went through was 10 times what he deserved. Some folks are in here wishing his life (and all the other guilty players' lives) was scarred even more deeply because you have some unproven feeling that he cut your entertainment a little short. That makes me a bit upset, it does. Him and the other players deserved what they got and I'd say they're lucky that there wasn't anything else. People make mistakes and it's great to see him step up and come out with this interview as well as seeing that's hes wanting to be more of an honest man. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On August 25 2013 14:46 Wildmoon wrote: Savior seems so evil... your sig fits this well lol. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3336 Posts
On August 23 2013 10:18 Kal_rA wrote: Korean punishments are pretty brutal. Kid made a mistake. Mind you, its a big one... but still he was just a kid. Shame that this is going to follow him for the rest of his life.  Korean punishments are pretty brutal in the wrong places... Case 1: Person rapes another person or kills a person and the punishment pales in comparison to what is usually given in America... Case 2: Person badmouths Korea on xanga while he's training to be a kpop boy band and 5 years afterwards, someone digs up this post, and he gets run out of the country because so many people are posting hateful remarks towards him on forums. Personally, as a Korean, I resent the fact the government is so lenient on bigger crimes while seemingly lesser crimes are relatively harsh. It's like everything's more in the middle. There's no getting off unharmed, but then there's no extreme punishments (such as life sentences) either... But more to the post, sad to see Hwasin, who seems genuinely repentant, to not even be able to witness STX win their last SPL-related game. He wasn't bad even~ and I'm kind of resenting Savior for not even talking to Hwasin after all this happened. What a loser of him.... | ||
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