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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 17:34:41
May 13 2013 01:51 GMT
#1
Terran vs Zerg: The Final
Featuring Kim Carry, Sonic, and Lee Seung Won

Saturday, Jun 01 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Kwangwoon University Auditorium
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2,100 seating capacity

-Bronze Match-
(Z)by.hero vs (T)sSak
Best of Five

-Legends Show Match-
(P)Reach vs (Z)YellOw

Best of Three

-Grand Final-
(Z)Killer vs (T)HiyA

Best of Seven

-Map Order-
Neo Wind and Cloud
Fighting Spirit
Andromeda
Pamir Plateau
New Heartbreak Ridge
Neo Wind and Cloud
Fighting Spirit

-Awards Ceremony-
[image loading]: ₩ 5,000,000
[image loading]: ₩ 3,000,000
[image loading]: ₩ 2,000,000
[image loading]: ₩ 1,000,000


As always, details are subject to change. Mark the date, and keep checking back for updates!
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 13 2013 01:59 GMT
#2
Awesome stuff, thanks for the info ^^
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 13 2013 02:04 GMT
#3
wow are they serious, A Bo3 showmatch a Bo5 3rd place match and a Bo7 finals on one day?
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5479 Posts
May 13 2013 02:17 GMT
#4
Gonna be awesome!
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jjwhg
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States155 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 02:18:18
May 13 2013 02:18 GMT
#5
Wow, the Bo5 3rd place match seems a little excessive... Though I guess I can't really complain about having too much BW

Super excited!
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
May 13 2013 02:21 GMT
#6
On May 13 2013 11:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
wow are they serious, A Bo3 showmatch a Bo5 3rd place match and a Bo7 finals on one day?

I suspect that Carry/Seungwon will convince Sonic to cut back, which is why I added the note that details are subject to change. We can only wait to see!
Writerptrk
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
May 13 2013 02:30 GMT
#7
Such a bad idea to hold this on the same night as the GSL final =/
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soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
May 13 2013 02:32 GMT
#8
Bronze Match- bo1
-Legends Show Match bo7
finals bo3

gogo
ace hwaiting!!
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
May 13 2013 02:32 GMT
#9
please hiya stop killer's domination of the broodwar scene! also i hope they cut the finals to a bo5, bo7 is a bit much.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 13 2013 02:35 GMT
#10
Yeah, the number of games seem to be bit much for one night :p
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 13 2013 02:40 GMT
#11
On May 13 2013 11:32 soujiro_ wrote:
Bronze Match- bo1
-Legends Show Match bo7
finals bo3

gogo


gogogo!
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L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
May 13 2013 02:41 GMT
#12
They should have the 3rd place match sometime earlier in the studio rather than the final.
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 13 2013 02:46 GMT
#13
bo3 showmatch lol. Don't need 2 games of nada beating down yellow, 1 would suffice

still sad this is the 1 day of the entire fucking year I don't have the saturday free to be able to watch live T_T
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
May 13 2013 02:49 GMT
#14
On May 13 2013 11:30 GTR wrote:
Such a bad idea to hold this on the same night as the GSL final =/

Ikr GSL organizers gonna hate sonic for taking all their viewers xD
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
May 13 2013 03:09 GMT
#15
On May 13 2013 11:49 traceurling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 11:30 GTR wrote:
Such a bad idea to hold this on the same night as the GSL final =/

Ikr GSL organizers gonna hate sonic for taking all their viewers xD

it hurts both events, actually.
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
May 13 2013 03:10 GMT
#16
That's going to be a lot of TvZ for one day, awesome! I think a Bo5 final would suffice but whatever.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 13 2013 03:24 GMT
#17
Bo7 TvZ Oz finals with Kim Carrier and LSW commenting, couldn't be better than that.
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Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
May 13 2013 03:37 GMT
#18
Will be there in person
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
May 13 2013 03:43 GMT
#19
TvZ all the way!
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HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
May 13 2013 04:09 GMT
#20
Nice a tvz finals! Looks like bw will survive.really looking forward to these games.
Long live BroodWar!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 13 2013 04:16 GMT
#21
Keeping fingers crossed we get a nice showing for such an ambitious auditorium!

Maybe a little too much TvZ for my taste....nah who am I kidding TvZ is epic, especially with these different characters coming at it.

Nada v Yellow I fear will be super one-sided...unless Yellow really has some serious surprises for us, but Nada has been active on snipe here and there and was generally stronger regardless.
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SonZHi
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong30 Posts
May 13 2013 04:58 GMT
#22
It is too long. It should be

Bronze: BO3
Legend: BO1
Final: BO5 or BO7
blueblimp
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada297 Posts
May 13 2013 05:06 GMT
#23
The finals games especially should be great. Killer and Hiya both showed in the semifinals that they were a step beyond their opponents.

I agree with others that Bo5 format would be better for the finals.

I think Bo5 is a better format for BW series than Bo7, in general. There's always a trade-off in series length. Shorter series are more tense, more random, and more favourable to preparation and strategic plays (aka cheeses). Longer series are less tense, more skill-based, and more favourable to core skills and standard strategies.

I like the trade-off of a Bo5 the best. It's short enough that every game feels important, unlike a Bo7, where the first and second games often don't feel super exciting. Yet it's not too random. Because each game is important, it's worth preparing strategic plays, but unlike a Bo3, you can't win the series off a couple of cheeses.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
May 13 2013 05:08 GMT
#24
Haven't watched BW recently, but will definitely tune in for the finals - that's one sweet OZ final match.

Agree with the 3rd place match being BO3, you gotta save the momentum for the finals game.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
May 13 2013 05:09 GMT
#25
On May 13 2013 13:58 SonZHi wrote:
It is too long. It should be

Bronze: BO3
Legend: BO1
Final: BO5 or BO7


Finals always have to be BO7, always!
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 13 2013 05:12 GMT
#26
On May 13 2013 14:09 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 13:58 SonZHi wrote:
It is too long. It should be

Bronze: BO3
Legend: BO1
Final: BO5 or BO7


Finals always have to be BO7, always!


Except that Starleague finals have always historically been Bo5. I will say I personally like Bo7 however.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
May 13 2013 05:19 GMT
#27
SSL finals have always traditionally been Bo7, there will no be point in talking about it.

If anything, probably bronze becomes Bo3 and Legends becomes Bo1
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1184 Posts
May 13 2013 06:46 GMT
#28
If you average every single game out to 30 minutes long including the breaks in between matches, then it comes out to 7.5 hours worth of BW.
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Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa381 Posts
May 13 2013 08:20 GMT
#29
Awesome! Wouldn't have minded PvT bronze match to accompany the best match-up possible for the finals, but you can't have everything in life :D

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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 13 2013 08:26 GMT
#30
On May 13 2013 11:30 GTR wrote:
Such a bad idea to hold this on the same night as the GSL final =/

For sure.

And 13 games? Way too much, Sonic being a bit too eager. Should do the bronze games on another day.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
May 13 2013 09:07 GMT
#31
Can't wait!
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 09:07:45
May 13 2013 09:07 GMT
#32
killer killer killer killer killer <3 <3 <3 <3

sigh, where's harem when you need him
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
May 13 2013 09:10 GMT
#33
brb buying another monitor
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
May 13 2013 09:11 GMT
#34
Magikarp fighting
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 13 2013 09:22 GMT
#35
On May 13 2013 11:30 GTR wrote:
Such a bad idea to hold this on the same night as the GSL final =/


So sad

Nada vs. Yellow o.0
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
May 13 2013 09:45 GMT
#36
On May 13 2013 17:26 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 11:30 GTR wrote:
Such a bad idea to hold this on the same night as the GSL final =/

For sure.

And 13 games? Way too much, Sonic being a bit too eager. Should do the bronze games on another day.


so negative

consider it the risk you have to take to gain the great reward of being able to gloat to SC2 fans for months
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ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
May 13 2013 10:07 GMT
#37
So dumb to hold it then...Sonic has to know that overlapping with GSL is only a bad thing.
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
May 13 2013 10:21 GMT
#38
i am stoked for this, and happy that the game series are so long. Personally i dont care that it is on the same day as the GSL finals, that will mostly hurt physical turnout but i have more than one monitor, and a laptop as well as my desktop... Point being im not going to be missing anything because they are on the same day. If anything ill just get a serious lack of sleep.

Will be interesting to see the actual turn-out at each event over in korea.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
May 13 2013 10:23 GMT
#39
I have to choose between this or GSL final? They can't be serious.
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cybertopo
Profile Joined February 2010
Spain525 Posts
May 13 2013 10:44 GMT
#40
I said HOLY FUCK
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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
May 13 2013 10:47 GMT
#41
might be a power play to show korea that bw still draws more fans than sc2
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
May 13 2013 10:51 GMT
#42
On May 13 2013 19:21 actionbastrd wrote:
i am stoked for this, and happy that the game series are so long. Personally i dont care that it is on the same day as the GSL finals, that will mostly hurt physical turnout but i have more than one monitor, and a laptop as well as my desktop... Point being im not going to be missing anything because they are on the same day. If anything ill just get a serious lack of sleep.

Will be interesting to see the actual turn-out at each event over in korea.


Thing is that physical turnout is the biggest metric that matters with an event like this, with them renting out such a big venue and trying to make a statement about the state of brood war. You don't wanna jeopardize that by overlapping with something else.
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
May 13 2013 11:04 GMT
#43
I can't wait! Let's go back magikarp!!!
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
May 13 2013 11:41 GMT
#44
[image loading] vs [image loading]
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white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
May 13 2013 11:56 GMT
#45
On May 13 2013 19:51 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 19:21 actionbastrd wrote:
i am stoked for this, and happy that the game series are so long. Personally i dont care that it is on the same day as the GSL finals, that will mostly hurt physical turnout but i have more than one monitor, and a laptop as well as my desktop... Point being im not going to be missing anything because they are on the same day. If anything ill just get a serious lack of sleep.

Will be interesting to see the actual turn-out at each event over in korea.


Thing is that physical turnout is the biggest metric that matters with an event like this, with them renting out such a big venue and trying to make a statement about the state of brood war. You don't wanna jeopardize that by overlapping with something else.


What percentage of esports fans actually like both games on similar levels and feel like they have to choose between the two?
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
May 13 2013 11:58 GMT
#46
what another game are we talking about? all i know there is only one game. SC:BW
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
May 13 2013 13:02 GMT
#47
On May 13 2013 20:56 white_horse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 19:51 ShiroKaisen wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:21 actionbastrd wrote:
i am stoked for this, and happy that the game series are so long. Personally i dont care that it is on the same day as the GSL finals, that will mostly hurt physical turnout but i have more than one monitor, and a laptop as well as my desktop... Point being im not going to be missing anything because they are on the same day. If anything ill just get a serious lack of sleep.

Will be interesting to see the actual turn-out at each event over in korea.


Thing is that physical turnout is the biggest metric that matters with an event like this, with them renting out such a big venue and trying to make a statement about the state of brood war. You don't wanna jeopardize that by overlapping with something else.


What percentage of esports fans actually like both games on similar levels and feel like they have to choose between the two?


for me i'm bummed. i planned to have a viewing for the ssl finals, but because it clashed with the gsl finals i've been forced to cancel it because everyone who was interested in going will be at barcraft for the gsl finals instead.
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
May 13 2013 13:06 GMT
#48
Bronze match should be Bo3 :/
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nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
May 13 2013 13:21 GMT
#49
Can't wait! I hope Hiya can give Killer a run for his money but Killer just seems soso good.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
May 13 2013 13:22 GMT
#50
wait why the change in venue? o_O
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 13 2013 13:36 GMT
#51
this is gonna be goooood
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 13 2013 13:36 GMT
#52
On May 13 2013 22:22 konadora wrote:
wait why the change in venue? o_O

yeah... same question here.. anybody knows?
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 13:41:21
May 13 2013 13:38 GMT
#53
On May 13 2013 22:02 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 20:56 white_horse wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:51 ShiroKaisen wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:21 actionbastrd wrote:
i am stoked for this, and happy that the game series are so long. Personally i dont care that it is on the same day as the GSL finals, that will mostly hurt physical turnout but i have more than one monitor, and a laptop as well as my desktop... Point being im not going to be missing anything because they are on the same day. If anything ill just get a serious lack of sleep.

Will be interesting to see the actual turn-out at each event over in korea.


Thing is that physical turnout is the biggest metric that matters with an event like this, with them renting out such a big venue and trying to make a statement about the state of brood war. You don't wanna jeopardize that by overlapping with something else.


What percentage of esports fans actually like both games on similar levels and feel like they have to choose between the two?


for me i'm bummed. i planned to have a viewing for the ssl finals, but because it clashed with the gsl finals i've been forced to cancel it because everyone who was interested in going will be at barcraft for the gsl finals instead.


barcraft is a totally different population though.

ssl has been able to grab 10k or so viewers before, I highly doubt those 10k koreans living in korea are as torn between the two--the main question is whether people can come with the subway lines closing (that happened ssl7 when lots of people left) and whether ~15% of ssl fans will go to the finals. No idea if this is entrance exam season [ninjaedit: apparently thats november], universities in session, etc.

my elite google skills says the subway stop is same line (line 1) as yongsan and is 35 minutes by rail. I have no idea where the population of seoul is spread out but it seems kwangwoon isn't a bad spot, plus as an engineering college i'm sure a good bit of its undergrad will go as well (maybe 200 out of 10k undergrad?; that would supply 10% of what sonic needs). Assuming they aren't all exclusively LoL fans
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
May 13 2013 15:34 GMT
#54
gonna be an Oz teamkill
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
May 13 2013 15:37 GMT
#55
On May 13 2013 22:36 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 22:22 konadora wrote:
wait why the change in venue? o_O

yeah... same question here.. anybody knows?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406963&currentpage=9#180
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 13 2013 16:24 GMT
#56
On May 14 2013 00:34 trifecta wrote:
gonna be an Oz teamkill

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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
May 13 2013 16:31 GMT
#57
[image loading] vs [image loading]
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palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
May 13 2013 16:50 GMT
#58
I dont know why people here is so worried about being in the same time that GSL, the main target for this event is the Korea pop, and BW is still by far more popular than SC2 over there, the foreign viewers havent been that big and important anyway, besides ZvT finals are going to be amazing.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
May 13 2013 17:45 GMT
#59
NaDa will probably be the only Terran on that day to win!
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5479 Posts
May 13 2013 18:05 GMT
#60
SSL 9's legend's match will feature FlasH vs JD!
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland746 Posts
May 13 2013 18:07 GMT
#61
This show match Nada vs. Yellow... OMG! This truely is a must see!!!
Rip & Tear until it is done!
Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa381 Posts
May 13 2013 18:23 GMT
#62
On May 14 2013 03:05 thezanursic wrote:
SSL 9's legend's match will feature FlasH vs JD!


Probably not, seeing that both of them are so invested in SC2 atm, one can always hope I guess

A safer bet would be Boxer vs Yellow, seeing that Boxer is only coaching SC2 these days. I reckon they would also be better matched skillwise than NaDa and Yellow

Make it happen Sonic!
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TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
May 13 2013 19:15 GMT
#63
I wish they'd have the 3rd place match on an earlier date, and keep the finals bo7. Not that I'm complaining -- high-level TvZ is one thing that you just can't have too much of... but still, a 6-hour TvZ marathon might not be everyone's cup of tea.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
May 13 2013 19:29 GMT
#64
That looks cool as fuck ! With NaDa and Yellow giving a showmatch, we'll be kids in a candy store. The audience that BW still has in korea is unbelieviable. I mean, we're talking about a video game that is fifteen damn years old o_O;
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BoyRobot
Profile Joined July 2012
Lithuania3 Posts
May 13 2013 19:38 GMT
#65
Go go Hyia ~!
I love progaming
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 13 2013 20:55 GMT
#66
Waking up early in the morning to watch BW on a regular basis again feels so good!

Go our hollywood fishiking!
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 21:14:11
May 13 2013 21:13 GMT
#67
They should also do a Legends winner versus SSL winner :D
OMG so excited!

Forget GSL, this is where it's happening.
T P Z sagi
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
May 13 2013 21:18 GMT
#68
This is so cool on so many levels. Can't possibly way to see it all! YEEEY for korean BW!!
Forever Vulture.. :(
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
May 14 2013 01:28 GMT
#69
HIYAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jaedong imba
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 14 2013 02:29 GMT
#70
so excited for this! Can't come soon enough :D
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white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 04:45:18
May 14 2013 04:45 GMT
#71
On May 13 2013 22:02 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 20:56 white_horse wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:51 ShiroKaisen wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:21 actionbastrd wrote:
i am stoked for this, and happy that the game series are so long. Personally i dont care that it is on the same day as the GSL finals, that will mostly hurt physical turnout but i have more than one monitor, and a laptop as well as my desktop... Point being im not going to be missing anything because they are on the same day. If anything ill just get a serious lack of sleep.

Will be interesting to see the actual turn-out at each event over in korea.


Thing is that physical turnout is the biggest metric that matters with an event like this, with them renting out such a big venue and trying to make a statement about the state of brood war. You don't wanna jeopardize that by overlapping with something else.


What percentage of esports fans actually like both games on similar levels and feel like they have to choose between the two?


for me i'm bummed. i planned to have a viewing for the ssl finals, but because it clashed with the gsl finals i've been forced to cancel it because everyone who was interested in going will be at barcraft for the gsl finals instead.


Maybe foreigners like both games equally more than koreans, who are pretty polarized about which game they like, so I think that the people that would have showed up to the finals are going to show up whether or not SC2 is a factor. SC2 is not very popular in korea.
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Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 12:27:45
May 14 2013 12:27 GMT
#72
New info, copied from Sonic´s FB:

+ Show Spoiler +
결승전 일자가 변경 되면서 이윤열 선수의 스케쥴로 인해 ㅠㅠ 박정석 선수로 변경 되었습니다.
이윤열 선수가 흔쾌히 허락해주셔서 이윤열 선수 vs 홍진호 선수 매치를 기다리셧던분들에겐 너무 죄송하구요. 이윤열 선수도 참여 의사를 긍정적으로 말씀 해주셧고 확정된 상태였는데 잠실체육관에서 > 광운대로 시간이 변경이 되면서 이번에 박정석 선수가 섭외 되었습니다.^^


홍진호 (Z) VS 박정석(P) -
두 선수의 레전드 매치.

6월 1일 아이템베이 스타리그 결승전에서 보실수 있게 될겁니다.^^

3/4위전이 끝나고

레전드 매치입니다 - 3판2선


기대 많이 해주세요.^^


I dont understand korean but according to OnLinE translation legend match is now a ZvP involving mantoss?
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 14 2013 12:35 GMT
#73
On May 14 2013 21:27 Skeggaba wrote:
New info, copied from Sonic´s FB:

+ Show Spoiler +
결승전 일자가 변경 되면서 이윤열 선수의 스케쥴로 인해 ㅠㅠ 박정석 선수로 변경 되었습니다.
이윤열 선수가 흔쾌히 허락해주셔서 이윤열 선수 vs 홍진호 선수 매치를 기다리셧던분들에겐 너무 죄송하구요. 이윤열 선수도 참여 의사를 긍정적으로 말씀 해주셧고 확정된 상태였는데 잠실체육관에서 > 광운대로 시간이 변경이 되면서 이번에 박정석 선수가 섭외 되었습니다.^^


홍진호 (Z) VS 박정석(P) -
두 선수의 레전드 매치.

6월 1일 아이템베이 스타리그 결승전에서 보실수 있게 될겁니다.^^

3/4위전이 끝나고

레전드 매치입니다 - 3판2선


기대 많이 해주세요.^^


I dont understand korean but according to OnLinE translation legend match is now a ZvP involving mantoss?

Yup. Due to schedule conflicts, Nada can't make it. Reach is going to play instead.

Legends Match: Yellow vs Reach. Bo3
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
May 14 2013 12:52 GMT
#74
Any news about pre-game kpops?
"Start yo" -FlaSh
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
May 14 2013 12:52 GMT
#75
On May 13 2013 19:21 actionbastrd wrote:
i am stoked for this, and happy that the game series are so long. Personally i dont care that it is on the same day as the GSL finals, that will mostly hurt physical turnout but i have more than one monitor, and a laptop as well as my desktop... Point being im not going to be missing anything because they are on the same day. If anything ill just get a serious lack of sleep.

Will be interesting to see the actual turn-out at each event over in korea.

who got to announced the date first? if its SSL then GSL should be the one OVERLAPPING and not SSL.
-
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
May 14 2013 15:24 GMT
#76
Reach O_O
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
May 14 2013 15:28 GMT
#77
change op then
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Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa381 Posts
May 14 2013 15:57 GMT
#78
awww was excited for NaDa, but Reach is an awesome replacement

Happy to see that Sonic could get a replacement such as Reach so easily (?). Hopefully this means we can expect other epic Legend matches in the future!
Die ou swepe sê: "daar's 'n raat vir elke kwaal," maar watse pil kou jy as die donker jou kom haal?
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 14 2013 16:06 GMT
#79
I'm more excited to see Reach actually.

Haven't seen him play much since that loss to TossGirl.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
May 14 2013 16:54 GMT
#80
slight relief - gsl finals will now be at 3pm which means they won't completely overlap
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
May 14 2013 16:57 GMT
#81
REACH VS YELLOW OMGASDGAHASDFGHA
Writerptrk
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
May 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#82
MANTOSSSSSSS!

Reach and Yellow should 2v2 vs Killer and Hiya. I'm pretty sure they'd still win
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slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
May 14 2013 23:14 GMT
#83
could this get any manlier?
jaedong imba
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 15 2013 02:20 GMT
#84
On May 15 2013 08:14 slappy wrote:
could this get any manlier?


GET. CHOLERA. NOW.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
May 15 2013 03:16 GMT
#85
On May 15 2013 07:53 2Pacalypse- wrote:
MANTOSSSSSSS!

Reach and Yellow should 2v2 vs Killer and Hiya. I'm pretty sure they'd still win


this would be god damn amazing!
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
May 15 2013 03:35 GMT
#86
Reach beats Yellow using 2 gate manlot build.

Also rooting for Hiya, I want to see some classic +1 5rax into late mech and 3 hatch muta builds. Last but not least, a game with some cows vs cattlebruisers too.
sup
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
May 15 2013 03:48 GMT
#87
On May 15 2013 08:14 slappy wrote:
could this get any manlier?

NaDa could show up and they could have a 3 player FFA?
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 04:37:16
May 15 2013 04:34 GMT
#88
Hell yeah Mantoss. It's really good to get PvZ in the middle of TvZ bo5 and bo7.
ॐ
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 15 2013 04:41 GMT
#89
MANTOSS!!

GET CHOLERA NAO!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 15 2013 05:07 GMT
#90
On May 15 2013 13:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
MANTOSS!!

GET CHOLERA NAO!


Will we still get Playgu if we get Cholera ?
ॐ
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 15 2013 06:04 GMT
#91
On May 15 2013 12:16 Tsutchie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 07:53 2Pacalypse- wrote:
MANTOSSSSSSS!

Reach and Yellow should 2v2 vs Killer and Hiya. I'm pretty sure they'd still win


this would be god damn amazing!


Yea, that would be super awesome.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1184 Posts
May 15 2013 06:21 GMT
#92
MANTOSS!!!!! At first I was saying that Yellow will beat Nada, but this changes everything! Mantoss gonna roll over yellow.
Flash should fear Sacsri
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5479 Posts
May 15 2013 07:28 GMT
#93
On May 14 2013 21:35 jpak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 21:27 Skeggaba wrote:
New info, copied from Sonic´s FB:

+ Show Spoiler +
결승전 일자가 변경 되면서 이윤열 선수의 스케쥴로 인해 ㅠㅠ 박정석 선수로 변경 되었습니다.
이윤열 선수가 흔쾌히 허락해주셔서 이윤열 선수 vs 홍진호 선수 매치를 기다리셧던분들에겐 너무 죄송하구요. 이윤열 선수도 참여 의사를 긍정적으로 말씀 해주셧고 확정된 상태였는데 잠실체육관에서 > 광운대로 시간이 변경이 되면서 이번에 박정석 선수가 섭외 되었습니다.^^


홍진호 (Z) VS 박정석(P) -
두 선수의 레전드 매치.

6월 1일 아이템베이 스타리그 결승전에서 보실수 있게 될겁니다.^^

3/4위전이 끝나고

레전드 매치입니다 - 3판2선


기대 많이 해주세요.^^


I dont understand korean but according to OnLinE translation legend match is now a ZvP involving mantoss?

Yup. Due to schedule conflicts, Nada can't make it. Reach is going to play instead.

Legends Match: Yellow vs Reach. Bo3


Much more epic! And closer in skill to!
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5479 Posts
May 15 2013 07:29 GMT
#94
On May 15 2013 11:20 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 08:14 slappy wrote:
could this get any manlier?


GET. CHOLERA. NOW.

Loved his Reach stories :D
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
May 15 2013 11:37 GMT
#95
Happy that it is reach both because he is awesome, and that pvz has less potential for a 15 minute bo3 than tvz does.
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
May 15 2013 12:06 GMT
#96
Really nice
2 really good TvZ incoming and Reach playing Yellow :D

Hoping for both terran to win and Reach to play handsome
I'm sure to watch this live !
n_n
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
May 15 2013 12:20 GMT
#97
great to have the mantoss
also to people talking about other games GET OUT

bw <3
ace hwaiting!!
finkelboy
Profile Joined December 2008
Italy372 Posts
May 15 2013 13:58 GMT
#98
go go go! cantw84it
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
May 15 2013 14:19 GMT
#99
Reach is playing?

[image loading]
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
May 15 2013 14:41 GMT
#100
Mantoss fighting! Of course I'm excited for the Hwaseung face off but man, Reach vs YellOw is too epic.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
May 15 2013 14:42 GMT
#101
Mantoss huh... think my head just exploded

If only Cholera were still around...
therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
May 15 2013 14:57 GMT
#102
If noone shows up in the GSL I am gonna be ROFL for a week !!
Nuke Cast this dammit !! You are our last hope and Sayle xD
They should also have a 2v2 show match !!
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Azriel
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico462 Posts
May 15 2013 15:10 GMT
#103
Haha wow there will be protoss matches that day after all.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 16:36:35
May 15 2013 16:35 GMT
#104
Mantoss vs Stormzerg ?

oh fuck yes please...

!!!

but.. why did they change the venue to a smaller one ? was Sonic afraind that they wont be able to fill up 7 000 seats ?
T H C makes ppl happy
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
May 15 2013 20:20 GMT
#105
Whoa Reach. Sad that we won't see Nada, but at least he streams ><

Reach vs Yellow wooo~
T P Z sagi
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
May 15 2013 20:47 GMT
#106
REACH OARGH
The heart's eternal vow
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
May 15 2013 22:11 GMT
#107
On May 16 2013 05:20 purakushi wrote:
Whoa Reach. Sad that we won't see Nada, but at least he streams ><

Reach vs Yellow wooo~

My thoughts exactly and as I would like to see Nada duke it out with Yellow I find 3x TvZ a little too much.
Forever Vulture.. :(
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
May 15 2013 23:25 GMT
#108
HOLY CRAP THE MANTOSS IS BACK!!!! I expect the infamous 2gate and some fearless 1gate robo pvz action!
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 23:52:59
May 15 2013 23:48 GMT
#109
Reach is the most overrated Protoss in the history of the game. YellOw, however, was actually on BoxeR's level skill-wise. I'm talking first generation of course.

to be fair, he was one of the few Protoss winning those days.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
May 16 2013 01:08 GMT
#110
On May 16 2013 08:48 rift wrote:
Reach is the most overrated Protoss in the history of the game. YellOw, however, was actually on BoxeR's level skill-wise. I'm talking first generation of course.

to be fair, he was one of the few Protoss winning those days.


You can't just....

Be happy that Sonic got such names to play?_?
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Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States505 Posts
May 16 2013 01:13 GMT
#111
Reach vs YellOw holy shit.
세 가지 제어
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
May 16 2013 08:52 GMT
#112
YELLOW VS REACH WTF HOLY SHIT
POGGERS
AleXoundOS
Profile Joined January 2011
Georgia457 Posts
May 16 2013 09:04 GMT
#113
wow
https://bwapi.github.io - An API for interacting with Starcraft: Broodwar (1.16.1)
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 09:18:30
May 16 2013 09:18 GMT
#114
Theres a new info-pic posted on sonic's fb. Seems like theres gonna be a couple of kpop girl groups.
Woo Jung Ho
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 16 2013 10:00 GMT
#115
On May 16 2013 18:18 iLoveKT wrote:
Theres a new info-pic posted on sonic's fb. Seems like theres gonna be a couple of kpop girl groups.

the JUICEGIRLS reunion!
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 10:15:05
May 16 2013 10:12 GMT
#116
[image loading]
If he really did get Hello Venus this time then he really stepped it up. They have a fanbase like 10,000x bigger than And White's(that is if And White really have any fans, never heard of them outside SSL really). Not that massively popular, I'd say Hello Venus is a mid tier group in terms of popularity. It's a girl group you'd expect to see in an OSL/MSL finals if there are any going on.
+ Show Spoiler +
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
May 16 2013 10:28 GMT
#117
wtf Sonic landed Hello Venus. That's huge considering this is an 'amateur' tournament, I am shocked and impressed.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#118
Anything to make this event successful way to go Sonic !
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 16 2013 10:31 GMT
#119
wowowow
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
May 16 2013 10:34 GMT
#120
Brood War lives
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
May 16 2013 14:37 GMT
#121
On May 16 2013 19:28 Hyde wrote:
wtf Sonic landed Hello Venus. That's huge considering this is an 'amateur' tournament, I am shocked and impressed.


I am quite stoked, I mean wow seriously
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 16 2013 17:21 GMT
#122
You know, I wonder who is going to win the "most impressive player" that sonic has for the league as well. Probably should go to reach
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States505 Posts
May 16 2013 19:41 GMT
#123
You know... I feel like the success of this tournament might just bring some old pros out of retirement. Or at least show OGN that we want BW back.
세 가지 제어
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 16 2013 21:16 GMT
#124
On May 17 2013 04:41 Phyanketto wrote:
You know... I feel like the success of this tournament might just bring some old pros out of retirement. Or at least show OGN that we want BW back.

yeeeees !!!

just 2 starleagues a year would be perfect ! xD
T H C makes ppl happy
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
May 17 2013 04:23 GMT
#125
i miss reading awesome bw write ups and hype threads
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FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
May 17 2013 04:35 GMT
#126
Wait wait wait...I thought it was Nada vs Yellow for the legends show match or was that for the semis? F word, if its already finished any way I can get vods?
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
May 17 2013 05:13 GMT
#127
By the sounds of that poster looks like the 3rd/4th place match has been scrapped. Good choice.
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Norada
Profile Joined August 2010
China482 Posts
May 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#128
pretty happy it's reach vs yellow, nada still plays on afreeca daily so a nada vs yellow show match would have been such a stomp. cant wait to see killer win though !
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 17 2013 06:27 GMT
#129
On May 17 2013 14:13 GTR wrote:
By the sounds of that poster looks like the 3rd/4th place match has been scrapped. Good choice.

Unfortunately not, I think. Note the detail at Legend Match where the caption says it will start after the 3/4th match. Sonic really should though.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 08:26:53
May 17 2013 08:26 GMT
#130
Hopefully the crowd won't all be Hello Venus fans who leave as soon as they finish performing ^^
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 17 2013 08:34 GMT
#131
On May 17 2013 17:26 kjwcj wrote:
Hopefully the crowd won't all be Hello Venus fans who leave as soon as they finish performing ^^


Came for the K-pop, stayed for the Mantoss.
ॐ
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
May 17 2013 09:18 GMT
#132
This killer is the Little Dong right?
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
May 17 2013 09:20 GMT
#133
On May 17 2013 18:18 mongmong wrote:
This killer is the Little Dong right?


yes, minidong.
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Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland476 Posts
May 17 2013 13:13 GMT
#134
Will this be Re-Streamed in English?
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SarahBW
Profile Joined July 2011
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May 17 2013 13:27 GMT
#135
uff sooo epic showmatch
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 17 2013 13:30 GMT
#136
On May 17 2013 22:13 Mazur wrote:
Will this be Re-Streamed in English?


yes, official TL cast by sayle.
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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
May 19 2013 01:37 GMT
#137
Can someone translate Sonic's long post on his fb page? It sounds... bad. Idk.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 01:44:29
May 19 2013 01:44 GMT
#138
On May 19 2013 10:37 iLoveKT wrote:
Can someone translate Sonic's long post on his fb page? It sounds... bad. Idk.


No no don't you jinx it man .... it looks he posted an article from daily e-sport I think .
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 19 2013 01:50 GMT
#139
Its just an interview with sonic?
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=76937

from what generic translate tells me
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
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TLADT24920 Posts
May 19 2013 02:04 GMT
#140
No more nada? :O Oh well, Reach vs Yellow should at least be less one-sided
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
May 19 2013 02:50 GMT
#141
Oh fuck I can't watch it must study for final
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white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
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Last Edited: 2013-05-19 03:06:48
May 19 2013 03:05 GMT
#142
Is there registration? Or can we just walk into the auditorium at 6pm?

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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 03:54:41
May 19 2013 03:54 GMT
#143
Would prefer Bo3-Bo3-Bo5/7 but I'm not complaining!

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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
May 19 2013 06:18 GMT
#144
On May 17 2013 13:23 icystorage wrote:
i miss reading awesome bw write ups and hype threads

hey TL still does awesome writeups
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Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
May 19 2013 06:50 GMT
#145
This is going to be awesome! I tend to agree Bo5 > Bo7, there was discussion of it in the GSL threads and you can drop a game in Bo7 without it being too damaging, lowering the tension and relative importance of each game. On the other hand, Bo7 equals more BW.

On May 16 2013 19:12 NicksonReyes wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfVYOFCQufw


lol wtf have you guys watched this? Firstly, it's called 'Would you stay for tea?' (lol), secondly, it appears to be about date-raping (wtf)
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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 08:01:26
May 19 2013 08:01 GMT
#146
I think it will be the first time when I will see BW match since the last OSL finals. So many memories...
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
May 19 2013 08:32 GMT
#147
Frustrated that this is during the gsl finals and on the same day as proleague... I would have tried to go if it wasn't.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 19 2013 08:42 GMT
#148
On May 19 2013 17:32 Whiplash wrote:
Frustrated that this is during the gsl finals and on the same day as proleague... I would have tried to go if it wasn't.

Yeah, pretty annoyed that it's on the same day. I'd really like to catch... all of it. Can't really expect you to get the day off just to watch some BW either
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Poetic[AoV]
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom183 Posts
May 19 2013 13:41 GMT
#149
Sonic just made a massive fb post which lots of people have liked - some kind of news article? If anyone can give the gist of it, maybe it's interesting...
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소닉 스타리그 주최자 황효진 씨
"BJ로 받은 사랑…대회 열며 갚고 싶다 "

2012년 8월 서울 송파구에 위치한 잠실학생실내체육관에서 열린 티빙 스타리그 결승전을 끝으로 스타크래프트:브루드워(이하 스타1)만으로 치르는 리그의 결승전은 막을 내렸다. 한 달 뒤 프로리그에서 스타1과 스타크래프트2:자유의날개(이하 스타2)를 병행해서 결승전을 치른 바 있지만 스타1 팬들에게 이미 8월에 치러진 티빙 스타리그를 통해 스타1 개인리그의 명맥은 끝났다.

비록 한국e스포츠협회가 인정한 공식 리그는 아니지만 인터넷 방송을 통해 곳곳에서 스타1 리그가 열리고 있다. 그 가운데 아프리카TV에서 가장 인기를 끌고 있는 스타1 리그는 바로 소닉 스타리그다. 2010년 1차 리그를 시작으로 2013년 현재 8차 리그를 끌어 오고 있고 8차 대회에서는 공식 후원사까지 섭외하면서 규모를 키워가고 있다.

동시간 시청자 1만명을 항상 넘기는 소닉 스타리그는 스타1 팬들의 향수를 자극하고 있고 오는 6월1일 서울 광운대학교 대강당에서 결승전을 앞두고 있다. 소닉 스타리그를 주최하는 황효진 씨를 만났다. 팬들 사이에서는 황효진이라는 이름보다 BJ 소닉으로 더 알려져 있는 인물이다.

◆우연히 시작한 개인 방송
황효진이 시작부터 스타1 리그를 기획한 것은 아니다. 스타1을 즐기는 수많은 게이머 가운데 한 명이었다. 친구들 사이에서 스타1의 고수로 인정받은 그는 주위의 권유로 인터넷 방송을 시작했다.

"스타1에 여러 전략들이 있잖아요. 저그, 테란, 프로토스 등 세 종족을 능숙하게 다루기 시작하면서 전략을 연구했어요. 친구들과의 대결에서 특이한 전략을 몇 번 썼더니 한 친구가 아프리카라는 인터넷 방송을 통해 전략성을 보여주면 인기를 얻을 것 같다며 추천하더라고요."

시작은 장난스러웠다. 공개방에서 게임 상대를 구했고 다양한 전략과 전술을 보여주기 시작했다. 게임을 하면서 동시에 전략에 대해 설명해줬다. 선생님처럼 누군가에게 지식을 전달하는 권위있는 말투는 아니었다. 10대 후반의 스타1을 좋아하는 팬의 말투로 방송을 했고 게이머들의 공감을 얻었다.

"우리나라에 갓 보급되기 시작한 인터넷 방송의 성공 사례 가운데 하나였을 거에요. 제가 방송하는 날이면 1~2,000명씩 실시간으로 보시는 거에요. 그러면서 유명세를 탔죠."

◆상경, 플레이플, 그리고 군입대
소닉의 전략 방송을 지켜본 한 매체로부터 러브콜이 왔다. 지금은 사라진 매체인 게임한국에서 인터넷 개인방송 론칭을 준비하고 있었고 소닉에게 함께하자고 제안했다. 2006년 당시 고등학교 3학년이었던 소닉은 무작정 서울로 올라왔다.

시작은 성공적이었다. 인터넷을 통해 소닉의 플레이를 유심히 지켜본 e스포츠 관계자들의 호감을 얻었다. 온게임넷은 짧은 광고 프로그램을 만들어 소닉을 홍보해주기도 했다. 일부 매체에서는 인터뷰를 요청하기도 했다. 세상에 소닉이라는 이름이 알려진 순간이었다.

"인기를 얻나 싶었는데 게임한국이라는 매체가 어려워지더라고요. 더 이상 개인 방송을 하지 못하나 싶었는데 온게임넷이 플레이플이라는 새로운 인터넷 방송을 개국했고 저도 합류했죠."

최근 들어 리그 오브 레전드를 활용해 다양한 방송을 제작하고 있는 나이스게임TV와 소닉 TV가 플레이플의 주축이었다. 나이스게임TV는 워크래프트3가 주력이었고 소닉은 스타1으로 시청자들을 모으는 매개체 역할을 했다. 그렇지만 플레이플은 시청자들을 끌어 모으는 데 실패했고 2년 정도 유지되다가 폐지됐다. 소닉 또한 2008년 9월 나라의 부름을 받고 군에 입대했다. 인지도를 얻고 무언가를 이룰 즈음이었다.

"인터넷 개인방송만으로는 희망이 없어 보이는 듯했어요. 시청자가 늘어나기는 하는데 수익으로 직접 연결시킬 방법이 딱히 보이지 않았지요. 그러다가 영장이 왔고 군에 갔어요. 군생활 동안에 플레이플은 사라졌죠."

◆내 돈으로 리그를 꾸리자
2년 동안의 군생활 동안 소닉은 사업을 펼치기로 결심했다. 인터넷 방송의 BJ만으로는 생계를 꾸리기 어렵다는 경험을 했기 때문이었다. 군에서 생각을 정리한 소닉은 제대한 뒤 인터넷 쇼핑몰을 열었다. 군에 가기 전 모아 놓은 돈으로 시작한 '신발팜'이라는 쇼핑몰이었다.

"스타1 리그에 대한 생각은 계속 갖고 있었어요. 아마추어 온라인 고수들을 한 자리에 모아 대회를 열고 실력을 인정받은 선수들이 프로게이머로 나설 수 있는 발판을 만들어보고 싶었죠. 그러려면 선수들에게 참가비, 교통비 등을 줘야 하죠. 무대도 필요하고요. 무엇보다 돈이 필요했어요. 저 스스로가 후원사가 되기로 했어요."

2010년 온라인상으로 진행된 소닉 스타리그는 그렇게 시작됐다. 누구의 도움도 받지 않고 스스로 리그를 만들겠다는 '맨 땅에 헤딩'하는 마음은 2년 동안 이어졌고 2012년에는 건국대학교 새천년대강당에서 결승전을 치를 정도로 성장했다.

"그동안 대회에 들어가는 제반 비용은 제 사업체에서 나갔어요. 온라인 쇼핑몰에서 벌어들인 수입 가운데 일부가 대회 개최 비용으로 투입됐죠. 일부에서는 쇼핑몰로 번 돈을 소닉 스타리그에 투입하는 것을 아쉬워하기도 했어요. 그 돈을 아꼈다면 사업을 더욱 성장시킬 수 있는데 왜 대회를 여냐고 말리기도 했죠."

주위에서 왜 사비를 들여 자꾸 대회를 여느냐는 질문을 받을 때마다 그는 "결초보은하기 위해서"라고 답했다. 황효진이라는 이름으로 사업을 하고 있지만 그에게는 소닉이라는 피가 흐르고 있었기 때문이다.

◆한층 성장한 소닉 스타리그
7차 소닉 스타리그 결승전을 치를 때였다. 2012년말 오프라인 결승전을 열겠다고 공지를 냈더니 블리자드 엔터테인먼트로부터 전화가 왔다. 지적재산권을 얻지 못했으므로 대회를 열지 못한다는 말이었다.

"청천벽력이었어요. 2010년부터 6차 대회까지 치르면서 이런 경우가 한 번도 없었거든요. 물론 온라인상으로 대회를 끝냈기 때문에 블리자드도 크게 견제하지 않았을 것이라 생각해요. 7차 대회에 들어와 결승전을 야외 행사로 치른다고 했더니 제재를 가하겠다고 하더라고요."

블리자드와 여러 번 e메일을 주고 받으면서 개최권을 얻어보려 했지만 쉽게 풀리지 않았다. 몇 차례 기사가 나가고 언론상으로 공방전이 펼쳐지던 과정에서 마이크 모하임 대표가 소닉 스타리그 결승전을 허락한다고 트위터에 남기면서 상황이 정리됐다.

"정말 고마웠어요. 그리고 많은 공부가 됐습니다. 사실 대회를 주최하는 저희는 지적재산권이 있는지 전혀 몰랐거든요. 협회와 블리자드가 지적재산권을 두고 갈등을 빚었다는 사실을 알고는 있었지만 우리에게도 적용될 수 있다는 생각은 하지 못했어요. 7차 결승전을 통해 많이 배웠죠."

오프라인 결승전을 통해 성황리에 막을 내린 7차 스타리그의 덕이었는지 8차 스타리그는 후원사를 얻었다. 아이템베이가 대회에 투자를 하겠다고 선뜻 나선 것. 과거 스타리그나 MSL처럼 몇 억원에 달하는 큰 돈은 아니었지만 소닉 스타리그가 성장하고 있다는 증거였다.

"아이템베이가 많은 힘을 불어넣어줬어요. 인터넷상으로 진행되는 대회에도 후원사가 나섰다는 것 자체가 의미가 있다고 생각합니다."

비단 아이템베이의 후원만 성사된 것이 아니다. 김태형과 이승원이라는 스타1을 주름잡았던 해설자들이 합류했다. 그리고 서연지와 최은애라는 인기를 끌었던 스타걸까지도 현장에 나섰다. 오프라인에서 관객들이 관전할 수 있도록 무대를 만들었고 경기석도 별도로 제작했다. 7차 대회와는 비교할 수도 없을 만큼 성장했다.

◆6월1일 광운대로 놀러 오세요
아이템베이가 후원하는 8차 소닉 스타리그는 e스포츠 팬들을 경악케 만들었다. 5월18일 서울 송파구 잠실학생실내체육관에서 결승전을 치르겠다고 공표했기 때문이다. 스타1으로 치른 마지막 스타리그가 열렸던 그 곳에서 인터넷 방송으로 진행된 리그의 결승전이 개최된다는 소식을 들은 e스포츠 팬들은 반신반의했다. 의미가 있다는 의견이 나왔지만 무리가 있다는 우려도 컸다.

"실제로 계약까지 했지만 주위에서 한 번에 일을 키우지 말라는 조언이 더 많았어요. 잠실학생실내체육관을 다 메우지 못하면 상실감이 클 것이고 다 채운다면 다음 목표가 더 커져야 하기에 무리수라는 거죠."

황효진은 주위의 조언을 받아들였다. 장소를 광운대학교 대강당으로 옮겼고 날짜 또한 6월1일로 바꿨다. 한 번 공표된 결승전 날짜와 장소를 바꾸는 일이 쉽지는 않았다. 팬들에게는 죄송할 따름이라고 했다.

"소닉 스타리그는 8차에서 끝나지 않을 것입니다. 지금까지의 경험을 살려 팬들에게 친숙한 모습으로 또 다시 찾아갈 거에요. 스타1의 서버가 문을 닫고 서비스가 되지 않는 그날까지 선수들과 함께 정진할 것입니다. 소닉이라는 BJ를 사랑해주신 분들부터, 대회 개최자인 황효진을 믿고 함께 해주는 선수들과 팬들에게 더 멋진 리그를 보여드릴 수 있도록 최선을 다하겠습니다."

[데일리e스포츠 남윤성 기자 thenam@dailyesports.com]

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[sc1f]eonzerg
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Belgium6581 Posts
May 19 2013 13:57 GMT
#150
On May 19 2013 22:41 Poetic[AoV] wrote:
Sonic just made a massive fb post which lots of people have liked - some kind of news article? If anyone can give the gist of it, maybe it's interesting...
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소닉 스타리그 주최자 황효진 씨
"BJ로 받은 사랑…대회 열며 갚고 싶다 "

2012년 8월 서울 송파구에 위치한 잠실학생실내체육관에서 열린 티빙 스타리그 결승전을 끝으로 스타크래프트:브루드워(이하 스타1)만으로 치르는 리그의 결승전은 막을 내렸다. 한 달 뒤 프로리그에서 스타1과 스타크래프트2:자유의날개(이하 스타2)를 병행해서 결승전을 치른 바 있지만 스타1 팬들에게 이미 8월에 치러진 티빙 스타리그를 통해 스타1 개인리그의 명맥은 끝났다.

비록 한국e스포츠협회가 인정한 공식 리그는 아니지만 인터넷 방송을 통해 곳곳에서 스타1 리그가 열리고 있다. 그 가운데 아프리카TV에서 가장 인기를 끌고 있는 스타1 리그는 바로 소닉 스타리그다. 2010년 1차 리그를 시작으로 2013년 현재 8차 리그를 끌어 오고 있고 8차 대회에서는 공식 후원사까지 섭외하면서 규모를 키워가고 있다.

동시간 시청자 1만명을 항상 넘기는 소닉 스타리그는 스타1 팬들의 향수를 자극하고 있고 오는 6월1일 서울 광운대학교 대강당에서 결승전을 앞두고 있다. 소닉 스타리그를 주최하는 황효진 씨를 만났다. 팬들 사이에서는 황효진이라는 이름보다 BJ 소닉으로 더 알려져 있는 인물이다.

◆우연히 시작한 개인 방송
황효진이 시작부터 스타1 리그를 기획한 것은 아니다. 스타1을 즐기는 수많은 게이머 가운데 한 명이었다. 친구들 사이에서 스타1의 고수로 인정받은 그는 주위의 권유로 인터넷 방송을 시작했다.

"스타1에 여러 전략들이 있잖아요. 저그, 테란, 프로토스 등 세 종족을 능숙하게 다루기 시작하면서 전략을 연구했어요. 친구들과의 대결에서 특이한 전략을 몇 번 썼더니 한 친구가 아프리카라는 인터넷 방송을 통해 전략성을 보여주면 인기를 얻을 것 같다며 추천하더라고요."

시작은 장난스러웠다. 공개방에서 게임 상대를 구했고 다양한 전략과 전술을 보여주기 시작했다. 게임을 하면서 동시에 전략에 대해 설명해줬다. 선생님처럼 누군가에게 지식을 전달하는 권위있는 말투는 아니었다. 10대 후반의 스타1을 좋아하는 팬의 말투로 방송을 했고 게이머들의 공감을 얻었다.

"우리나라에 갓 보급되기 시작한 인터넷 방송의 성공 사례 가운데 하나였을 거에요. 제가 방송하는 날이면 1~2,000명씩 실시간으로 보시는 거에요. 그러면서 유명세를 탔죠."

◆상경, 플레이플, 그리고 군입대
소닉의 전략 방송을 지켜본 한 매체로부터 러브콜이 왔다. 지금은 사라진 매체인 게임한국에서 인터넷 개인방송 론칭을 준비하고 있었고 소닉에게 함께하자고 제안했다. 2006년 당시 고등학교 3학년이었던 소닉은 무작정 서울로 올라왔다.

시작은 성공적이었다. 인터넷을 통해 소닉의 플레이를 유심히 지켜본 e스포츠 관계자들의 호감을 얻었다. 온게임넷은 짧은 광고 프로그램을 만들어 소닉을 홍보해주기도 했다. 일부 매체에서는 인터뷰를 요청하기도 했다. 세상에 소닉이라는 이름이 알려진 순간이었다.

"인기를 얻나 싶었는데 게임한국이라는 매체가 어려워지더라고요. 더 이상 개인 방송을 하지 못하나 싶었는데 온게임넷이 플레이플이라는 새로운 인터넷 방송을 개국했고 저도 합류했죠."

최근 들어 리그 오브 레전드를 활용해 다양한 방송을 제작하고 있는 나이스게임TV와 소닉 TV가 플레이플의 주축이었다. 나이스게임TV는 워크래프트3가 주력이었고 소닉은 스타1으로 시청자들을 모으는 매개체 역할을 했다. 그렇지만 플레이플은 시청자들을 끌어 모으는 데 실패했고 2년 정도 유지되다가 폐지됐다. 소닉 또한 2008년 9월 나라의 부름을 받고 군에 입대했다. 인지도를 얻고 무언가를 이룰 즈음이었다.

"인터넷 개인방송만으로는 희망이 없어 보이는 듯했어요. 시청자가 늘어나기는 하는데 수익으로 직접 연결시킬 방법이 딱히 보이지 않았지요. 그러다가 영장이 왔고 군에 갔어요. 군생활 동안에 플레이플은 사라졌죠."

◆내 돈으로 리그를 꾸리자
2년 동안의 군생활 동안 소닉은 사업을 펼치기로 결심했다. 인터넷 방송의 BJ만으로는 생계를 꾸리기 어렵다는 경험을 했기 때문이었다. 군에서 생각을 정리한 소닉은 제대한 뒤 인터넷 쇼핑몰을 열었다. 군에 가기 전 모아 놓은 돈으로 시작한 '신발팜'이라는 쇼핑몰이었다.

"스타1 리그에 대한 생각은 계속 갖고 있었어요. 아마추어 온라인 고수들을 한 자리에 모아 대회를 열고 실력을 인정받은 선수들이 프로게이머로 나설 수 있는 발판을 만들어보고 싶었죠. 그러려면 선수들에게 참가비, 교통비 등을 줘야 하죠. 무대도 필요하고요. 무엇보다 돈이 필요했어요. 저 스스로가 후원사가 되기로 했어요."

2010년 온라인상으로 진행된 소닉 스타리그는 그렇게 시작됐다. 누구의 도움도 받지 않고 스스로 리그를 만들겠다는 '맨 땅에 헤딩'하는 마음은 2년 동안 이어졌고 2012년에는 건국대학교 새천년대강당에서 결승전을 치를 정도로 성장했다.

"그동안 대회에 들어가는 제반 비용은 제 사업체에서 나갔어요. 온라인 쇼핑몰에서 벌어들인 수입 가운데 일부가 대회 개최 비용으로 투입됐죠. 일부에서는 쇼핑몰로 번 돈을 소닉 스타리그에 투입하는 것을 아쉬워하기도 했어요. 그 돈을 아꼈다면 사업을 더욱 성장시킬 수 있는데 왜 대회를 여냐고 말리기도 했죠."

주위에서 왜 사비를 들여 자꾸 대회를 여느냐는 질문을 받을 때마다 그는 "결초보은하기 위해서"라고 답했다. 황효진이라는 이름으로 사업을 하고 있지만 그에게는 소닉이라는 피가 흐르고 있었기 때문이다.

◆한층 성장한 소닉 스타리그
7차 소닉 스타리그 결승전을 치를 때였다. 2012년말 오프라인 결승전을 열겠다고 공지를 냈더니 블리자드 엔터테인먼트로부터 전화가 왔다. 지적재산권을 얻지 못했으므로 대회를 열지 못한다는 말이었다.

"청천벽력이었어요. 2010년부터 6차 대회까지 치르면서 이런 경우가 한 번도 없었거든요. 물론 온라인상으로 대회를 끝냈기 때문에 블리자드도 크게 견제하지 않았을 것이라 생각해요. 7차 대회에 들어와 결승전을 야외 행사로 치른다고 했더니 제재를 가하겠다고 하더라고요."

블리자드와 여러 번 e메일을 주고 받으면서 개최권을 얻어보려 했지만 쉽게 풀리지 않았다. 몇 차례 기사가 나가고 언론상으로 공방전이 펼쳐지던 과정에서 마이크 모하임 대표가 소닉 스타리그 결승전을 허락한다고 트위터에 남기면서 상황이 정리됐다.

"정말 고마웠어요. 그리고 많은 공부가 됐습니다. 사실 대회를 주최하는 저희는 지적재산권이 있는지 전혀 몰랐거든요. 협회와 블리자드가 지적재산권을 두고 갈등을 빚었다는 사실을 알고는 있었지만 우리에게도 적용될 수 있다는 생각은 하지 못했어요. 7차 결승전을 통해 많이 배웠죠."

오프라인 결승전을 통해 성황리에 막을 내린 7차 스타리그의 덕이었는지 8차 스타리그는 후원사를 얻었다. 아이템베이가 대회에 투자를 하겠다고 선뜻 나선 것. 과거 스타리그나 MSL처럼 몇 억원에 달하는 큰 돈은 아니었지만 소닉 스타리그가 성장하고 있다는 증거였다.

"아이템베이가 많은 힘을 불어넣어줬어요. 인터넷상으로 진행되는 대회에도 후원사가 나섰다는 것 자체가 의미가 있다고 생각합니다."

비단 아이템베이의 후원만 성사된 것이 아니다. 김태형과 이승원이라는 스타1을 주름잡았던 해설자들이 합류했다. 그리고 서연지와 최은애라는 인기를 끌었던 스타걸까지도 현장에 나섰다. 오프라인에서 관객들이 관전할 수 있도록 무대를 만들었고 경기석도 별도로 제작했다. 7차 대회와는 비교할 수도 없을 만큼 성장했다.

◆6월1일 광운대로 놀러 오세요
아이템베이가 후원하는 8차 소닉 스타리그는 e스포츠 팬들을 경악케 만들었다. 5월18일 서울 송파구 잠실학생실내체육관에서 결승전을 치르겠다고 공표했기 때문이다. 스타1으로 치른 마지막 스타리그가 열렸던 그 곳에서 인터넷 방송으로 진행된 리그의 결승전이 개최된다는 소식을 들은 e스포츠 팬들은 반신반의했다. 의미가 있다는 의견이 나왔지만 무리가 있다는 우려도 컸다.

"실제로 계약까지 했지만 주위에서 한 번에 일을 키우지 말라는 조언이 더 많았어요. 잠실학생실내체육관을 다 메우지 못하면 상실감이 클 것이고 다 채운다면 다음 목표가 더 커져야 하기에 무리수라는 거죠."

황효진은 주위의 조언을 받아들였다. 장소를 광운대학교 대강당으로 옮겼고 날짜 또한 6월1일로 바꿨다. 한 번 공표된 결승전 날짜와 장소를 바꾸는 일이 쉽지는 않았다. 팬들에게는 죄송할 따름이라고 했다.

"소닉 스타리그는 8차에서 끝나지 않을 것입니다. 지금까지의 경험을 살려 팬들에게 친숙한 모습으로 또 다시 찾아갈 거에요. 스타1의 서버가 문을 닫고 서비스가 되지 않는 그날까지 선수들과 함께 정진할 것입니다. 소닉이라는 BJ를 사랑해주신 분들부터, 대회 개최자인 황효진을 믿고 함께 해주는 선수들과 팬들에게 더 멋진 리그를 보여드릴 수 있도록 최선을 다하겠습니다."

[데일리e스포츠 남윤성 기자 thenam@dailyesports.com]

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yes plz
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
May 19 2013 15:02 GMT
#151
Seems like a history of BJ as a caster, according to google translate.
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
May 19 2013 15:34 GMT
#152
Welp, since GSL and SSL are on the same day and I can't choose and it feels like it's crushing me I'll probably just leave Seoul take a friends offer and go rafting. I feel like shit about it btu would be probably worse to go to one of the events and just think about how I'm missing out on the other.
The heart's eternal vow
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
May 19 2013 16:15 GMT
#153
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LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 19 2013 16:25 GMT
#154
On May 19 2013 15:18 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 13:23 icystorage wrote:
i miss reading awesome bw write ups and hype threads

hey TL still does awesome writeups

Yeah on Dota2
Stork[gm]
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
May 19 2013 16:31 GMT
#155
On May 20 2013 01:25 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 15:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 17 2013 13:23 icystorage wrote:
i miss reading awesome bw write ups and hype threads

hey TL still does awesome writeups

Yeah on Dota2

:'(
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 17:05:25
May 19 2013 17:04 GMT
#156
On May 19 2013 22:57 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 22:41 Poetic[AoV] wrote:
Sonic just made a massive fb post which lots of people have liked - some kind of news article? If anyone can give the gist of it, maybe it's interesting...
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소닉 스타리그 주최자 황효진 씨
"BJ로 받은 사랑…대회 열며 갚고 싶다 "

2012년 8월 서울 송파구에 위치한 잠실학생실내체육관에서 열린 티빙 스타리그 결승전을 끝으로 스타크래프트:브루드워(이하 스타1)만으로 치르는 리그의 결승전은 막을 내렸다. 한 달 뒤 프로리그에서 스타1과 스타크래프트2:자유의날개(이하 스타2)를 병행해서 결승전을 치른 바 있지만 스타1 팬들에게 이미 8월에 치러진 티빙 스타리그를 통해 스타1 개인리그의 명맥은 끝났다.

비록 한국e스포츠협회가 인정한 공식 리그는 아니지만 인터넷 방송을 통해 곳곳에서 스타1 리그가 열리고 있다. 그 가운데 아프리카TV에서 가장 인기를 끌고 있는 스타1 리그는 바로 소닉 스타리그다. 2010년 1차 리그를 시작으로 2013년 현재 8차 리그를 끌어 오고 있고 8차 대회에서는 공식 후원사까지 섭외하면서 규모를 키워가고 있다.

동시간 시청자 1만명을 항상 넘기는 소닉 스타리그는 스타1 팬들의 향수를 자극하고 있고 오는 6월1일 서울 광운대학교 대강당에서 결승전을 앞두고 있다. 소닉 스타리그를 주최하는 황효진 씨를 만났다. 팬들 사이에서는 황효진이라는 이름보다 BJ 소닉으로 더 알려져 있는 인물이다.

◆우연히 시작한 개인 방송
황효진이 시작부터 스타1 리그를 기획한 것은 아니다. 스타1을 즐기는 수많은 게이머 가운데 한 명이었다. 친구들 사이에서 스타1의 고수로 인정받은 그는 주위의 권유로 인터넷 방송을 시작했다.

"스타1에 여러 전략들이 있잖아요. 저그, 테란, 프로토스 등 세 종족을 능숙하게 다루기 시작하면서 전략을 연구했어요. 친구들과의 대결에서 특이한 전략을 몇 번 썼더니 한 친구가 아프리카라는 인터넷 방송을 통해 전략성을 보여주면 인기를 얻을 것 같다며 추천하더라고요."

시작은 장난스러웠다. 공개방에서 게임 상대를 구했고 다양한 전략과 전술을 보여주기 시작했다. 게임을 하면서 동시에 전략에 대해 설명해줬다. 선생님처럼 누군가에게 지식을 전달하는 권위있는 말투는 아니었다. 10대 후반의 스타1을 좋아하는 팬의 말투로 방송을 했고 게이머들의 공감을 얻었다.

"우리나라에 갓 보급되기 시작한 인터넷 방송의 성공 사례 가운데 하나였을 거에요. 제가 방송하는 날이면 1~2,000명씩 실시간으로 보시는 거에요. 그러면서 유명세를 탔죠."

◆상경, 플레이플, 그리고 군입대
소닉의 전략 방송을 지켜본 한 매체로부터 러브콜이 왔다. 지금은 사라진 매체인 게임한국에서 인터넷 개인방송 론칭을 준비하고 있었고 소닉에게 함께하자고 제안했다. 2006년 당시 고등학교 3학년이었던 소닉은 무작정 서울로 올라왔다.

시작은 성공적이었다. 인터넷을 통해 소닉의 플레이를 유심히 지켜본 e스포츠 관계자들의 호감을 얻었다. 온게임넷은 짧은 광고 프로그램을 만들어 소닉을 홍보해주기도 했다. 일부 매체에서는 인터뷰를 요청하기도 했다. 세상에 소닉이라는 이름이 알려진 순간이었다.

"인기를 얻나 싶었는데 게임한국이라는 매체가 어려워지더라고요. 더 이상 개인 방송을 하지 못하나 싶었는데 온게임넷이 플레이플이라는 새로운 인터넷 방송을 개국했고 저도 합류했죠."

최근 들어 리그 오브 레전드를 활용해 다양한 방송을 제작하고 있는 나이스게임TV와 소닉 TV가 플레이플의 주축이었다. 나이스게임TV는 워크래프트3가 주력이었고 소닉은 스타1으로 시청자들을 모으는 매개체 역할을 했다. 그렇지만 플레이플은 시청자들을 끌어 모으는 데 실패했고 2년 정도 유지되다가 폐지됐다. 소닉 또한 2008년 9월 나라의 부름을 받고 군에 입대했다. 인지도를 얻고 무언가를 이룰 즈음이었다.

"인터넷 개인방송만으로는 희망이 없어 보이는 듯했어요. 시청자가 늘어나기는 하는데 수익으로 직접 연결시킬 방법이 딱히 보이지 않았지요. 그러다가 영장이 왔고 군에 갔어요. 군생활 동안에 플레이플은 사라졌죠."

◆내 돈으로 리그를 꾸리자
2년 동안의 군생활 동안 소닉은 사업을 펼치기로 결심했다. 인터넷 방송의 BJ만으로는 생계를 꾸리기 어렵다는 경험을 했기 때문이었다. 군에서 생각을 정리한 소닉은 제대한 뒤 인터넷 쇼핑몰을 열었다. 군에 가기 전 모아 놓은 돈으로 시작한 '신발팜'이라는 쇼핑몰이었다.

"스타1 리그에 대한 생각은 계속 갖고 있었어요. 아마추어 온라인 고수들을 한 자리에 모아 대회를 열고 실력을 인정받은 선수들이 프로게이머로 나설 수 있는 발판을 만들어보고 싶었죠. 그러려면 선수들에게 참가비, 교통비 등을 줘야 하죠. 무대도 필요하고요. 무엇보다 돈이 필요했어요. 저 스스로가 후원사가 되기로 했어요."

2010년 온라인상으로 진행된 소닉 스타리그는 그렇게 시작됐다. 누구의 도움도 받지 않고 스스로 리그를 만들겠다는 '맨 땅에 헤딩'하는 마음은 2년 동안 이어졌고 2012년에는 건국대학교 새천년대강당에서 결승전을 치를 정도로 성장했다.

"그동안 대회에 들어가는 제반 비용은 제 사업체에서 나갔어요. 온라인 쇼핑몰에서 벌어들인 수입 가운데 일부가 대회 개최 비용으로 투입됐죠. 일부에서는 쇼핑몰로 번 돈을 소닉 스타리그에 투입하는 것을 아쉬워하기도 했어요. 그 돈을 아꼈다면 사업을 더욱 성장시킬 수 있는데 왜 대회를 여냐고 말리기도 했죠."

주위에서 왜 사비를 들여 자꾸 대회를 여느냐는 질문을 받을 때마다 그는 "결초보은하기 위해서"라고 답했다. 황효진이라는 이름으로 사업을 하고 있지만 그에게는 소닉이라는 피가 흐르고 있었기 때문이다.

◆한층 성장한 소닉 스타리그
7차 소닉 스타리그 결승전을 치를 때였다. 2012년말 오프라인 결승전을 열겠다고 공지를 냈더니 블리자드 엔터테인먼트로부터 전화가 왔다. 지적재산권을 얻지 못했으므로 대회를 열지 못한다는 말이었다.

"청천벽력이었어요. 2010년부터 6차 대회까지 치르면서 이런 경우가 한 번도 없었거든요. 물론 온라인상으로 대회를 끝냈기 때문에 블리자드도 크게 견제하지 않았을 것이라 생각해요. 7차 대회에 들어와 결승전을 야외 행사로 치른다고 했더니 제재를 가하겠다고 하더라고요."

블리자드와 여러 번 e메일을 주고 받으면서 개최권을 얻어보려 했지만 쉽게 풀리지 않았다. 몇 차례 기사가 나가고 언론상으로 공방전이 펼쳐지던 과정에서 마이크 모하임 대표가 소닉 스타리그 결승전을 허락한다고 트위터에 남기면서 상황이 정리됐다.

"정말 고마웠어요. 그리고 많은 공부가 됐습니다. 사실 대회를 주최하는 저희는 지적재산권이 있는지 전혀 몰랐거든요. 협회와 블리자드가 지적재산권을 두고 갈등을 빚었다는 사실을 알고는 있었지만 우리에게도 적용될 수 있다는 생각은 하지 못했어요. 7차 결승전을 통해 많이 배웠죠."

오프라인 결승전을 통해 성황리에 막을 내린 7차 스타리그의 덕이었는지 8차 스타리그는 후원사를 얻었다. 아이템베이가 대회에 투자를 하겠다고 선뜻 나선 것. 과거 스타리그나 MSL처럼 몇 억원에 달하는 큰 돈은 아니었지만 소닉 스타리그가 성장하고 있다는 증거였다.

"아이템베이가 많은 힘을 불어넣어줬어요. 인터넷상으로 진행되는 대회에도 후원사가 나섰다는 것 자체가 의미가 있다고 생각합니다."

비단 아이템베이의 후원만 성사된 것이 아니다. 김태형과 이승원이라는 스타1을 주름잡았던 해설자들이 합류했다. 그리고 서연지와 최은애라는 인기를 끌었던 스타걸까지도 현장에 나섰다. 오프라인에서 관객들이 관전할 수 있도록 무대를 만들었고 경기석도 별도로 제작했다. 7차 대회와는 비교할 수도 없을 만큼 성장했다.

◆6월1일 광운대로 놀러 오세요
아이템베이가 후원하는 8차 소닉 스타리그는 e스포츠 팬들을 경악케 만들었다. 5월18일 서울 송파구 잠실학생실내체육관에서 결승전을 치르겠다고 공표했기 때문이다. 스타1으로 치른 마지막 스타리그가 열렸던 그 곳에서 인터넷 방송으로 진행된 리그의 결승전이 개최된다는 소식을 들은 e스포츠 팬들은 반신반의했다. 의미가 있다는 의견이 나왔지만 무리가 있다는 우려도 컸다.

"실제로 계약까지 했지만 주위에서 한 번에 일을 키우지 말라는 조언이 더 많았어요. 잠실학생실내체육관을 다 메우지 못하면 상실감이 클 것이고 다 채운다면 다음 목표가 더 커져야 하기에 무리수라는 거죠."

황효진은 주위의 조언을 받아들였다. 장소를 광운대학교 대강당으로 옮겼고 날짜 또한 6월1일로 바꿨다. 한 번 공표된 결승전 날짜와 장소를 바꾸는 일이 쉽지는 않았다. 팬들에게는 죄송할 따름이라고 했다.

"소닉 스타리그는 8차에서 끝나지 않을 것입니다. 지금까지의 경험을 살려 팬들에게 친숙한 모습으로 또 다시 찾아갈 거에요. 스타1의 서버가 문을 닫고 서비스가 되지 않는 그날까지 선수들과 함께 정진할 것입니다. 소닉이라는 BJ를 사랑해주신 분들부터, 대회 개최자인 황효진을 믿고 함께 해주는 선수들과 팬들에게 더 멋진 리그를 보여드릴 수 있도록 최선을 다하겠습니다."

[데일리e스포츠 남윤성 기자 thenam@dailyesports.com]

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Until someone can translate for us, google translate to the rescue lol:
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Mr. Sonic Star League hosts hwanghyojin
"BJ had a love ... I want to pay off tournament opens"

August 2012 is located in Songpa-gu, Seoul Jamsil Student Gymnasium Leigh Star League Final held at the end of the StarCraft: Brood War (the star one) paying only the finals of the league ended. A month later star in Pro League 1 and StarCraft 2: Wings of Liberty (the Star 2) parallel to the finals, but the star one fans have already taken the bar in August was fought over Leigh Star 1 Star League myeongmaek a private league ended.

Although approved by the Korea e-Sports Association official broadcast through the Internet around the league, but the league is being held at the Star 1. Among them the most popular African TV star one in the league is just Sonic Star League. League in 2010, starting with the first in 2013 and the current 08 car pulled and eighth league tournament as the official sponsor liaison to the scale are going to grow.

10,000 people pass the time viewers uptime Sonic Star 1 Star League and nostalgia fans and Kwangwoon University, Seoul, June 1 in the auditorium is in the finals. Sonic the Star League to host Mr. hwanghyojin met. Hwanghyojin named among fans of Sonic more than the BJ is known figures.

◆ accidentally started the private broadcasting
Hwanghyojin planned from the start that the league is not one star. Enjoying one star was one of many gamers. Gosuro between friends star in one of the recognized around he started with the encouragement of the Internet broadcast.

"Star one know multiple strategies. Zerg, Terran, Protoss, etc. are starting to three races, while skillfully strategy worked. Unusual strategy in the confrontation with friends a few times, a friend wrote deoni Africa through a strategic Internet Broadcasting would show that gain popularity gatdamyeo I loved them. "

Seureowotda start a joke. Gonggaebang asked for a variety of opponents in a game of strategy and tactics began to show. Game strategy while at the same time gave a rundown. To transfer knowledge to someone like Mr. authoritative tone was not. One of the stars of the late 10's tone as fan favorite of gamers sympathy and was broadcast.

"Korea began to spread on freshly Internet broadcasting will have been one of the success stories, I kill 1-2000 to broadcast real-time and day will look. Yet fame fly."

◆ to Tokyo, and play platform, and military service
Sonic watched the broadcast and media strategy came from a love call. Now disappeared from the Internet private broadcasting media game-Korea was preparing to launch a Sonic suggested with. 2006 was the third year of high school at the time of Sonic came up to Seoul blindly.

The start was successful. Sonic's play over the Internet, watching intently was a crush of e-sports parties. Ongamenet short Advertising Contact was also made to promote Sonic. Some media may request an interview said. Sonic was the moment when the name of the world is known.

"Popular medium of Korea will get it more difficult game that I wanted to surprise. Mothana not longer wanted personal broadcast platform play Ongamenet two countries, a new internet broadcasting and I've joined."

League of Legends and recently produced utilizing various broadcasting and TV and a nice game Sonic the principal axis of the TV play was flat. Nice game Warcraft 3 and the main TV was one of the star sonic media had a role to attract viewers. But the play platform has failed to attract the viewers to be retained for two years doedaga was abolished. Sonic also the country's September 2008 the army had been called. Gaining recognition around something was achieved.

"Personal Internet Broadcasting alone was like looking hopeless. Viewers creeping increase in revenues to be connected directly to the way it did seem apparent. Warrant Then I went to the military came. Military life during the play of the platform was gone."

◆ pack on my money league
Two years for the life of the group decided to More Sonic the business. Internet broadcast of the BJ raise living alone because the experience was difficult. I think from the group after you have cleaned your internet shopping mall for the first Sonic opened. Back to group I started a collection of money 'shoes Farm' was the mall.

"Star still has one league was thinking about. Hold them in one place online collection of amateur open tournament players skills recognized by professional gamers wanted to embark in creating a platform, then, you give the players entrance fee, transportation, etc. 'll have to give the stage hagoyo needed above all was the money needed. itself that was to become a sponsor. "

Conducted on-line in 2010 that started the Sonic Star League. Themselves, without the help of anyone to make the league getdaneun 'Man Heading to the ground "like a yieojyeotgo for two years in 2012, Millennium, Konkuk University has grown to take the final game in the auditorium.

"Meanwhile, all costs entering the tournament went out in my business. Earned income from online store with some of the tournament at the expense thats put some of the money to the mall to commit to Sonic Star League had even miss that money to ahkkyeotda to grow more cotton business, so why did it dry nyago open competition. "

Why keep bringing in around Xavi yeoneunya contest each time you get a question, "I gyeolcho to gratitude," he said. Hwanghyojin in the name of the business, but he was a blood flows is called Sonic.

◆ I grew Sonic Star League
7 car was when Sonic Star League final value. The end of 2012 would open the offline finals announcements came out I got a call from Blizzard Entertainment. Intellectual property rights do not get a say because the tournament was open.

"Bolt from the blue choices Congress from 2010 until 6 this is not the case, as all costs once was ... of course, ended the contest on-line, because Blizzard did not think that I'm too big checks 0.7 final outdoor event came to Congress will play in the sanctions and would haetdeoni loved them. "

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◆ 6 월 1 일 Kwangwoon Come to the
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[Daily e-sports journalist namyunseong thenam@dailyesports.com]

In the interview with the daily ugly
One dream in the middle of playing college activities do not you go missed

Seems like he was detailing how he got involved, how he used to play BW during college and about OGN and other stuff
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
rwong48
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States105 Posts
May 19 2013 22:00 GMT
#157
Damn it, I wish I found this earlier.. I booked my flight a few hours after this was posted. I assumed that I was going to miss the 5/18 game, and I will land in Seoul on 6/2. Got a little surprised when there was no game yesterday, and came on TL to find this news
eX-Corgh
Profile Joined October 2007
Russian Federation386 Posts
May 20 2013 04:55 GMT
#158
Omg, is BW really being reborn from the ashes? Very good, looking forward to watching vods of the finals with my friend.
Never give cheese to the Gorilla ^^
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 20 2013 14:12 GMT
#159
[image loading]

from sonic's fb. killer hand looks weird lol. Also, kind of sad to see sc2 images still, but sonic's been doing that all ssl 8

the "star" looks to be advertising hello venus 헬로비너스, not star as in "star 1"
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Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
May 20 2013 14:19 GMT
#160
On May 20 2013 23:12 N.geNuity wrote:
the "star" looks to be advertising hello venus 헬로비너스, not star as in "star 1"


Aw, I thought the "Star" + three korean things underneath meant we were going to have 3 stargirls for the finals
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
May 20 2013 14:22 GMT
#161
On May 20 2013 23:19 Sayle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 23:12 N.geNuity wrote:
the "star" looks to be advertising hello venus 헬로비너스, not star as in "star 1"


Aw, I thought the "Star" + three korean things underneath meant we were going to have 3 stargirls for the finals

Yeah, but hey, Hello Venus should be enough wimminz for us nerds .
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 14:26:28
May 20 2013 14:25 GMT
#162
What is Hello Venus?

Nevermind, google'd it. This is an acceptable alternative to having 3 stargirls.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
May 20 2013 14:31 GMT
#163
On May 20 2013 23:25 Sayle wrote:
What is Hello Venus?

Nevermind, google'd it. This is an acceptable alternative to having 3 stargirls.

Check out their latest song about drugging a guy asking a guy to stay for some tea.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
sukila
Profile Joined November 2007
Germany57 Posts
May 20 2013 21:18 GMT
#164
hiya said on his stream yesterday that the final was changed to bo5
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 20 2013 21:32 GMT
#165
Woah, Hello Venus should be neat. Some of my girl friends did a dance cover of one of their songs a few months ago, and it was fantastic both sober and drunk. I think it was the song "Venus." It would be cool if they had that song at this finals.
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Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa381 Posts
May 20 2013 21:59 GMT
#166
such a pretty poster (I must say that the colourful Itembay logo probably makes it even more pretty )! Getting really amped for the finals
Die ou swepe sê: "daar's 'n raat vir elke kwaal," maar watse pil kou jy as die donker jou kom haal?
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 20 2013 22:01 GMT
#167
On May 21 2013 06:18 sukila wrote:
hiya said on his stream yesterday that the final was changed to bo5

Awesome. Now it'll be a perfect day!
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
May 21 2013 00:29 GMT
#168
Is it just me or is OGN indirectly hyping up the SSL8 finals with the special fillers they recently made for proleague breaks?

+ Show Spoiler +
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juki
Profile Joined April 2012
68 Posts
May 21 2013 05:06 GMT
#169
On May 19 2013 22:41 Poetic[AoV] wrote:
Sonic just made a massive fb post which lots of people have liked - some kind of news article? If anyone can give the gist of it, maybe it's interesting...
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소닉 스타리그 주최자 황효진 씨
"BJ로 받은 사랑…대회 열며 갚고 싶다 "

2012년 8월 서울 송파구에 위치한 잠실학생실내체육관에서 열린 티빙 스타리그 결승전을 끝으로 스타크래프트:브루드워(이하 스타1)만으로 치르는 리그의 결승전은 막을 내렸다. 한 달 뒤 프로리그에서 스타1과 스타크래프트2:자유의날개(이하 스타2)를 병행해서 결승전을 치른 바 있지만 스타1 팬들에게 이미 8월에 치러진 티빙 스타리그를 통해 스타1 개인리그의 명맥은 끝났다.

비록 한국e스포츠협회가 인정한 공식 리그는 아니지만 인터넷 방송을 통해 곳곳에서 스타1 리그가 열리고 있다. 그 가운데 아프리카TV에서 가장 인기를 끌고 있는 스타1 리그는 바로 소닉 스타리그다. 2010년 1차 리그를 시작으로 2013년 현재 8차 리그를 끌어 오고 있고 8차 대회에서는 공식 후원사까지 섭외하면서 규모를 키워가고 있다.

동시간 시청자 1만명을 항상 넘기는 소닉 스타리그는 스타1 팬들의 향수를 자극하고 있고 오는 6월1일 서울 광운대학교 대강당에서 결승전을 앞두고 있다. 소닉 스타리그를 주최하는 황효진 씨를 만났다. 팬들 사이에서는 황효진이라는 이름보다 BJ 소닉으로 더 알려져 있는 인물이다.

◆우연히 시작한 개인 방송
황효진이 시작부터 스타1 리그를 기획한 것은 아니다. 스타1을 즐기는 수많은 게이머 가운데 한 명이었다. 친구들 사이에서 스타1의 고수로 인정받은 그는 주위의 권유로 인터넷 방송을 시작했다.

"스타1에 여러 전략들이 있잖아요. 저그, 테란, 프로토스 등 세 종족을 능숙하게 다루기 시작하면서 전략을 연구했어요. 친구들과의 대결에서 특이한 전략을 몇 번 썼더니 한 친구가 아프리카라는 인터넷 방송을 통해 전략성을 보여주면 인기를 얻을 것 같다며 추천하더라고요."

시작은 장난스러웠다. 공개방에서 게임 상대를 구했고 다양한 전략과 전술을 보여주기 시작했다. 게임을 하면서 동시에 전략에 대해 설명해줬다. 선생님처럼 누군가에게 지식을 전달하는 권위있는 말투는 아니었다. 10대 후반의 스타1을 좋아하는 팬의 말투로 방송을 했고 게이머들의 공감을 얻었다.

"우리나라에 갓 보급되기 시작한 인터넷 방송의 성공 사례 가운데 하나였을 거에요. 제가 방송하는 날이면 1~2,000명씩 실시간으로 보시는 거에요. 그러면서 유명세를 탔죠."

◆상경, 플레이플, 그리고 군입대
소닉의 전략 방송을 지켜본 한 매체로부터 러브콜이 왔다. 지금은 사라진 매체인 게임한국에서 인터넷 개인방송 론칭을 준비하고 있었고 소닉에게 함께하자고 제안했다. 2006년 당시 고등학교 3학년이었던 소닉은 무작정 서울로 올라왔다.

시작은 성공적이었다. 인터넷을 통해 소닉의 플레이를 유심히 지켜본 e스포츠 관계자들의 호감을 얻었다. 온게임넷은 짧은 광고 프로그램을 만들어 소닉을 홍보해주기도 했다. 일부 매체에서는 인터뷰를 요청하기도 했다. 세상에 소닉이라는 이름이 알려진 순간이었다.

"인기를 얻나 싶었는데 게임한국이라는 매체가 어려워지더라고요. 더 이상 개인 방송을 하지 못하나 싶었는데 온게임넷이 플레이플이라는 새로운 인터넷 방송을 개국했고 저도 합류했죠."

최근 들어 리그 오브 레전드를 활용해 다양한 방송을 제작하고 있는 나이스게임TV와 소닉 TV가 플레이플의 주축이었다. 나이스게임TV는 워크래프트3가 주력이었고 소닉은 스타1으로 시청자들을 모으는 매개체 역할을 했다. 그렇지만 플레이플은 시청자들을 끌어 모으는 데 실패했고 2년 정도 유지되다가 폐지됐다. 소닉 또한 2008년 9월 나라의 부름을 받고 군에 입대했다. 인지도를 얻고 무언가를 이룰 즈음이었다.

"인터넷 개인방송만으로는 희망이 없어 보이는 듯했어요. 시청자가 늘어나기는 하는데 수익으로 직접 연결시킬 방법이 딱히 보이지 않았지요. 그러다가 영장이 왔고 군에 갔어요. 군생활 동안에 플레이플은 사라졌죠."

◆내 돈으로 리그를 꾸리자
2년 동안의 군생활 동안 소닉은 사업을 펼치기로 결심했다. 인터넷 방송의 BJ만으로는 생계를 꾸리기 어렵다는 경험을 했기 때문이었다. 군에서 생각을 정리한 소닉은 제대한 뒤 인터넷 쇼핑몰을 열었다. 군에 가기 전 모아 놓은 돈으로 시작한 '신발팜'이라는 쇼핑몰이었다.

"스타1 리그에 대한 생각은 계속 갖고 있었어요. 아마추어 온라인 고수들을 한 자리에 모아 대회를 열고 실력을 인정받은 선수들이 프로게이머로 나설 수 있는 발판을 만들어보고 싶었죠. 그러려면 선수들에게 참가비, 교통비 등을 줘야 하죠. 무대도 필요하고요. 무엇보다 돈이 필요했어요. 저 스스로가 후원사가 되기로 했어요."

2010년 온라인상으로 진행된 소닉 스타리그는 그렇게 시작됐다. 누구의 도움도 받지 않고 스스로 리그를 만들겠다는 '맨 땅에 헤딩'하는 마음은 2년 동안 이어졌고 2012년에는 건국대학교 새천년대강당에서 결승전을 치를 정도로 성장했다.

"그동안 대회에 들어가는 제반 비용은 제 사업체에서 나갔어요. 온라인 쇼핑몰에서 벌어들인 수입 가운데 일부가 대회 개최 비용으로 투입됐죠. 일부에서는 쇼핑몰로 번 돈을 소닉 스타리그에 투입하는 것을 아쉬워하기도 했어요. 그 돈을 아꼈다면 사업을 더욱 성장시킬 수 있는데 왜 대회를 여냐고 말리기도 했죠."

주위에서 왜 사비를 들여 자꾸 대회를 여느냐는 질문을 받을 때마다 그는 "결초보은하기 위해서"라고 답했다. 황효진이라는 이름으로 사업을 하고 있지만 그에게는 소닉이라는 피가 흐르고 있었기 때문이다.

◆한층 성장한 소닉 스타리그
7차 소닉 스타리그 결승전을 치를 때였다. 2012년말 오프라인 결승전을 열겠다고 공지를 냈더니 블리자드 엔터테인먼트로부터 전화가 왔다. 지적재산권을 얻지 못했으므로 대회를 열지 못한다는 말이었다.

"청천벽력이었어요. 2010년부터 6차 대회까지 치르면서 이런 경우가 한 번도 없었거든요. 물론 온라인상으로 대회를 끝냈기 때문에 블리자드도 크게 견제하지 않았을 것이라 생각해요. 7차 대회에 들어와 결승전을 야외 행사로 치른다고 했더니 제재를 가하겠다고 하더라고요."

블리자드와 여러 번 e메일을 주고 받으면서 개최권을 얻어보려 했지만 쉽게 풀리지 않았다. 몇 차례 기사가 나가고 언론상으로 공방전이 펼쳐지던 과정에서 마이크 모하임 대표가 소닉 스타리그 결승전을 허락한다고 트위터에 남기면서 상황이 정리됐다.

"정말 고마웠어요. 그리고 많은 공부가 됐습니다. 사실 대회를 주최하는 저희는 지적재산권이 있는지 전혀 몰랐거든요. 협회와 블리자드가 지적재산권을 두고 갈등을 빚었다는 사실을 알고는 있었지만 우리에게도 적용될 수 있다는 생각은 하지 못했어요. 7차 결승전을 통해 많이 배웠죠."

오프라인 결승전을 통해 성황리에 막을 내린 7차 스타리그의 덕이었는지 8차 스타리그는 후원사를 얻었다. 아이템베이가 대회에 투자를 하겠다고 선뜻 나선 것. 과거 스타리그나 MSL처럼 몇 억원에 달하는 큰 돈은 아니었지만 소닉 스타리그가 성장하고 있다는 증거였다.

"아이템베이가 많은 힘을 불어넣어줬어요. 인터넷상으로 진행되는 대회에도 후원사가 나섰다는 것 자체가 의미가 있다고 생각합니다."

비단 아이템베이의 후원만 성사된 것이 아니다. 김태형과 이승원이라는 스타1을 주름잡았던 해설자들이 합류했다. 그리고 서연지와 최은애라는 인기를 끌었던 스타걸까지도 현장에 나섰다. 오프라인에서 관객들이 관전할 수 있도록 무대를 만들었고 경기석도 별도로 제작했다. 7차 대회와는 비교할 수도 없을 만큼 성장했다.

◆6월1일 광운대로 놀러 오세요
아이템베이가 후원하는 8차 소닉 스타리그는 e스포츠 팬들을 경악케 만들었다. 5월18일 서울 송파구 잠실학생실내체육관에서 결승전을 치르겠다고 공표했기 때문이다. 스타1으로 치른 마지막 스타리그가 열렸던 그 곳에서 인터넷 방송으로 진행된 리그의 결승전이 개최된다는 소식을 들은 e스포츠 팬들은 반신반의했다. 의미가 있다는 의견이 나왔지만 무리가 있다는 우려도 컸다.

"실제로 계약까지 했지만 주위에서 한 번에 일을 키우지 말라는 조언이 더 많았어요. 잠실학생실내체육관을 다 메우지 못하면 상실감이 클 것이고 다 채운다면 다음 목표가 더 커져야 하기에 무리수라는 거죠."

황효진은 주위의 조언을 받아들였다. 장소를 광운대학교 대강당으로 옮겼고 날짜 또한 6월1일로 바꿨다. 한 번 공표된 결승전 날짜와 장소를 바꾸는 일이 쉽지는 않았다. 팬들에게는 죄송할 따름이라고 했다.

"소닉 스타리그는 8차에서 끝나지 않을 것입니다. 지금까지의 경험을 살려 팬들에게 친숙한 모습으로 또 다시 찾아갈 거에요. 스타1의 서버가 문을 닫고 서비스가 되지 않는 그날까지 선수들과 함께 정진할 것입니다. 소닉이라는 BJ를 사랑해주신 분들부터, 대회 개최자인 황효진을 믿고 함께 해주는 선수들과 팬들에게 더 멋진 리그를 보여드릴 수 있도록 최선을 다하겠습니다."

[데일리e스포츠 남윤성 기자 thenam@dailyesports.com]

데일리에서 인터뷰 한겁니다
중간에 하나로드림 들어가서 노는대학 활동이 안들어갔네요 ㅠㅠ


It's a DES interview with Sonic. I've posted the translated version here.
PM me if you want a BW-related item translated (stuff on former players is okay as well)
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 21 2013 09:08 GMT
#170
The only way this would be better is if they brought back the space suits and smoke machines.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
May 21 2013 09:18 GMT
#171
Are those hype videos the only two? If it is then surely it can't be anything but SSL hype?
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 21 2013 09:34 GMT
#172
reach is the coach for LoL all stars I think (coming up at end of may) but havimg both reach and yellow definitely seems like some hype~~
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Poetic[AoV]
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom183 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 11:12:01
May 21 2013 11:06 GMT
#173
2.30 in the second vid - one of the most spine-tingling games ever... yellow vs bisu. That song never seemed so sad before.

But definitely seems like ssl hype!
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
May 21 2013 12:41 GMT
#174
I'm so happy to see that there is a proper final for SSL. This is going to be really great. I haven't watched BW live in forever. The nostalgia and the excitement are palpable. I'm definitely going to enjoy watching some good old ESPORTS with all of you guys.

See you on the first.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
May 21 2013 12:45 GMT
#175
On May 21 2013 18:18 Epoxide wrote:
Are those hype videos the only two? If it is then surely it can't be anything but SSL hype?

There's plenty. They had encouraging one for Bisu, an cerebratorial for some achievement January reached as a coach, etc.
The heart's eternal vow
BreakerD
Profile Joined March 2010
United States159 Posts
May 22 2013 04:17 GMT
#176
On May 21 2013 09:29 NicksonReyes wrote:
Is it just me or is OGN indirectly hyping up the SSL8 finals with the special fillers they recently made for proleague breaks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjKBh7_axKU
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xvc5GCdjZw

Thanks for the hype video. I saw it on the sc2 stream, and I was like wtf is this. Can't wait for the finals.....BW forever.............
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
May 22 2013 18:58 GMT
#177
people are really complaining its a bit much...? I don't understand what's wrong there isn't enough BW and there was a wait for this event, you should all be pumped.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 22 2013 19:29 GMT
#178
So very nice of OGN for those tributes. Great videos.
Stork[gm]
jhamas
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru22 Posts
May 23 2013 01:17 GMT
#179
hi sonic ,gracias por todo lo que haces por el broodwar continua asi , una pena no poder ver en macht leyend a nada vs yellow pero aun asi estoy a la expectativa de la final del 1 de junio
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
May 23 2013 08:20 GMT
#180
Just make the legend match Bo 27 :D.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Reggiegigas
Profile Joined August 2010
234 Posts
May 24 2013 22:13 GMT
#181
Get hyyype :3

BROOD WAR FEELS GOOD
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
May 25 2013 06:27 GMT
#182
That's what she said.
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
May 25 2013 08:52 GMT
#183
Still a week away? But I want it nowwww
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 25 2013 09:09 GMT
#184
On May 23 2013 03:58 dRaW wrote:
people are really complaining its a bit much...? I don't understand what's wrong there isn't enough BW and there was a wait for this event, you should all be pumped.


I'm not complaining, I'm just saying its a bit too much for the live audience,I won't be shocked if people left halfway because the event went too long.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
May 25 2013 14:29 GMT
#185
OH THANK GOD ITS JUNE 1ST!!

I just woke up in panic because I had in my mind it was June 25 and missed the event by 5 hours....

Can't miss this finals!!
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Larvator
Profile Joined May 2013
Ukraine87 Posts
May 27 2013 15:07 GMT
#186
Sonic is so cool! <3
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
May 29 2013 11:03 GMT
#187
No hype LR thread yet?!
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
May 29 2013 12:33 GMT
#188
Can't wait !
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
May 29 2013 12:45 GMT
#189
Oh man, this is going to be epic, and it's actually at a convenient time for me too! Woot!
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 29 2013 13:31 GMT
#190
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
May 29 2013 13:52 GMT
#191
On May 29 2013 20:03 icystorage wrote:
No hype LR thread yet?!

Ask Blind-rawr he called dibs on it
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 14:02:42
May 29 2013 14:02 GMT
#192
Holy shit, I'm actually really excited about this, more so than the last SPL final with BW in it
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
May 29 2013 14:38 GMT
#193
Can we get this on the calendar?
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
May 29 2013 14:44 GMT
#194
i think they're waiting for the FINAL date, since everything is still subject to change
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
May 29 2013 15:14 GMT
#195
On May 29 2013 23:38 EchOne wrote:
Can we get this on the calendar?

http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2013/06/#event_16845
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