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Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
December 05 2005 18:52 GMT
#41
Nal_rA - Kingdom
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 05 2005 19:05 GMT
#42
On December 06 2005 00:23 gulii wrote:
Pusan is the PvZ god (at the moment). Before he even got his "pro-carraer" edmitted he beated many good Z players. And now he even rapes them pretty bad almost each time

while this is true, there are not alot of pusan pvz reps as of late (as with all pros), imo they arent the best pusan has churned out at pvz, he has some good 1.10 games but like you said, reach and ra are both pvz gods... however ra's style is hard to pull off so :S
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lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-05 20:33:23
December 05 2005 20:31 GMT
#43
heh intotherain.... he is no doubt the best storm user ever, I would wet my pants watching his storms. if you want to become good pvz you have to watch his replays to learn storm usage.

best pvz ? too many names.... ra, grrr, smuft, pusan, intotherain himself
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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
December 05 2005 21:52 GMT
#44
Guys... I don't know what's wrong with you determining who's the best of the best...
Who cares about this rank since the topic starter has simply stated that he wanted top pvz replays ?
That means just show'em one of the top P vs one of the top Z, i really don't fucking care who's playing that's all T_T

When someone is mentionning that X is truly the best we're then going to have a LONG endless debate.

FFS just say X is prolly one of the best to look around that enough to know which replays we'd watch.

Thanks.
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 05 2005 22:13 GMT
#45
Its a pain in the ass to read smuft on the list with gamers like Ra, Grrrr, Pusan, IntotheRain ect..
Also i think Incontrol is pretty biased to mention Mondragon as a good PvZ player but leaving FiSheYe out, who is by far the better PvZ gamer. He can beat and already beat all the good zergs. Except mondi and korean pros!

But as for the best PvZ i'll go with Nal_rA. He simply breathes PvZ. But i think watching his replays or vods wont help, cause his play is never able to copy. Not in a single point ;p. SO its useless..

I think watching the best foreign tosses in PvZ helps much more, since their style is at least easier to copy. Take a look at Fisheye, Arcneon, Draco ( especially on Nostalgia that guy is pretty good =D )
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
December 05 2005 23:09 GMT
#46
fisheye magic~phil? really?
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Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
December 05 2005 23:19 GMT
#47
On December 06 2005 02:28 drc wrote:
Thanks for mentioning "best of all time", when someone says that it gives me a good laugh.
I bet none of those "old bw heroes" are nearly as good as people are nowadays.. So how can one be 'best of all time'?

When people say this they usually mean, "By contemporary standards and competition".
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
December 05 2005 23:23 GMT
#48
On December 06 2005 07:13 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Its a pain in the ass to read smuft on the list with gamers like Ra, Grrrr, Pusan, IntotheRain ect..
Also i think Incontrol is pretty biased to mention Mondragon as a good PvZ player but leaving FiSheYe out, who is by far the better PvZ gamer. He can beat and already beat all the good zergs. Except mondi and korean pros!


Yeah and midian and I'm sure a lot more people.
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mitsy
Profile Joined October 2005
United States1792 Posts
December 05 2005 23:24 GMT
#49
you should also just check out some reps of people doing better than you on wgtour. you may be able to understand them better and make more gradual improvements to your game instead of trying to copy pros (do both!).
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TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
December 05 2005 23:41 GMT
#50
pvz is too hard , storm needs to get 10 more damage again
Bergkamp ftw!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 06 2005 01:50 GMT
#51
On December 06 2005 07:13 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Its a pain in the ass to read smuft on the list with gamers like Ra, Grrrr, Pusan, IntotheRain ect..
Also i think Incontrol is pretty biased to mention Mondragon as a good PvZ player but leaving FiSheYe out, who is by far the better PvZ gamer. He can beat and already beat all the good zergs. Except mondi and korean pros!

But as for the best PvZ i'll go with Nal_rA. He simply breathes PvZ. But i think watching his replays or vods wont help, cause his play is never able to copy. Not in a single point ;p. SO its useless..

I think watching the best foreign tosses in PvZ helps much more, since their style is at least easier to copy. Take a look at Fisheye, Arcneon, Draco ( especially on Nostalgia that guy is pretty good =D )


I think its pretty funny you accuse me of being biased than offer Fisheye up in the next sentence lol. Ask anybody that knows, a mondragon PvZ is up there with the rest in non korean terms. Im not necessarily biased, id be the first to tell you dissy will lose to nub ass t's O_O
e1-Daft
Profile Joined June 2004
Latvia19 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-06 02:41:12
December 06 2005 02:39 GMT
#52
Pusan and Anytime nowadays in Korea.
Ryoko's aggressive play was great also !

In the rest of the world I always liked Draco and sYs.

GG
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-06 03:36:08
December 06 2005 03:32 GMT
#53
On December 06 2005 08:23 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2005 07:13 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Its a pain in the ass to read smuft on the list with gamers like Ra, Grrrr, Pusan, IntotheRain ect..
Also i think Incontrol is pretty biased to mention Mondragon as a good PvZ player but leaving FiSheYe out, who is by far the better PvZ gamer. He can beat and already beat all the good zergs. Except mondi and korean pros!


Yeah and midian and I'm sure a lot more people.


You think mentioning mondi for !P!vz and not mentioning fisheye makes sense ? Thats all we're talking about. I think it doesnt, if you do, well.. at least i know not all guys from netherlands are like you ;P For example i love Frank Carsten, who you obviously dont know 8/ ! He is an amazing player ! But i a ''other'' ''game''.


I dont think fisheye's PvZ is great. For sure it isnt compared to his pvp and pvt, but i think fisheye's pvz is still better than mondis..

D:

On December 06 2005 10:50 {88}iNcontroL wrote:


I think its pretty funny you accuse me of being biased than offer Fisheye up in the next sentence lol.


Srry for offering fisheye one of the most successful tosses around. Doing always great in wcg, dominating germany ( with mondi ). So many tournaments won ect.. How stupid to mention fisheye in a thread which asks about good PvZ gamers.. how st..

u understand me ? 8{
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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
December 06 2005 03:38 GMT
#54
Your 'sarcasm' sucks.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Asian Fever
Profile Joined October 2004
France269 Posts
December 06 2005 03:39 GMT
#55
Fisheye,Zelotito,Draco for europe
Reach,Anytime,Sonjjang and the best IntoTheRain and Garimto
Ryde Or Die
Asian Fever
Profile Joined October 2004
France269 Posts
December 06 2005 03:44 GMT
#56
On December 06 2005 08:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
fisheye magic~phil? really?


i find the smurf of fisheye =>its magic~phil!
Ryde Or Die
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 06 2005 03:48 GMT
#57
On December 06 2005 12:44 Asian Fever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2005 08:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
fisheye magic~phil? really?


i find the smurf of fisheye =>its magic~phil!


i am not frederik keitel
he wouldnt be as stupid as me
he wouldnt even waste his time on the board
i just dont know why people even flame me if i post his name in a thread thats basically all about him

He simply is the dominant foreign toss user for the last 3-4 years. With some others..
So what !?

Why shouldnt i mention him if i have draco , arcneonen ect.. tt

hatred outlives the hateful
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 06 2005 03:48 GMT
#58
the bias is that everyone here knows you are swinging off fisheye's nut sack with the your thumb in his ass as well. I honestly think there are a bunch of protoss (non korean) better than fisheye for PvZ and i definately think Mondragon is one of them. Bringing up Fisheye's wcg performance is nice, but what zerg has he beaten in wcg?
Asian Fever
Profile Joined October 2004
France269 Posts
December 06 2005 03:51 GMT
#59
On December 06 2005 12:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
the bias is that everyone here knows you are swinging off fisheye's nut sack with the your thumb in his ass as well. I honestly think there are a bunch of protoss (non korean) better than fisheye for PvZ and i definately think Mondragon is one of them. Bringing up Fisheye's wcg performance is nice, but what zerg has he beaten in wcg?

dont he beat testie with proxy gates ?
Ryde Or Die
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 06 2005 03:56 GMT
#60
On December 06 2005 12:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
the bias is that everyone here knows you are swinging off fisheye's nut sack with the your thumb in his ass as well. I honestly think there are a bunch of protoss (non korean) better than fisheye for PvZ and i definately think Mondragon is one of them. Bringing up Fisheye's wcg performance is nice, but what zerg has he beaten in wcg?


holy shit.. u ignorant.. uuhh.. whatever

So right now u said mondis Pvz > Fishy's PvZ

Okey, no one can really prove who is right. But FiSheYe beat Testie in wcg !? 2:0 one PvT and one PvZ . FiSheYe played pretty decent vs ogogo on pgt, ect.. He beat Trek back in wcg04, who isnt that bad in ZvP either. Especially if he's training. THe fish vs trek games were one of the coolest wcg games ive seen so far..


I cant really believe that u think mondis PvZ > fisheye's PvZ ..
Do NOT call me biased if u say mondis PvZ > FiSh's PvZ. T_T


ANd i know that fisheyes pvz isnt as good as his pvp and pvt, but still he can beat almost any zerg, except maybe mondi. He already beat and can beat ret, sen, ect.. ect..

But i'll stop here.. We cant prove who is better but i dont see a fault of me to name fish in THIS specific thread T_T
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