EPTBest Protoss vs ZerG? - Page 3
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 06 2005 00:23 gulii wrote: Pusan is the PvZ god (at the moment). Before he even got his "pro-carraer" edmitted he beated many good Z players. And now he even rapes them pretty bad almost each time while this is true, there are not alot of pusan pvz reps as of late (as with all pros), imo they arent the best pusan has churned out at pvz, he has some good 1.10 games but like you said, reach and ra are both pvz gods... however ra's style is hard to pull off so :S | ||
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lightman
United States731 Posts
best pvz ? too many names.... ra, grrr, smuft, pusan, intotherain himself | ||
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
Who cares about this rank since the topic starter has simply stated that he wanted top pvz replays ? That means just show'em one of the top P vs one of the top Z, i really don't fucking care who's playing that's all T_T When someone is mentionning that X is truly the best we're then going to have a LONG endless debate. FFS just say X is prolly one of the best to look around that enough to know which replays we'd watch. Thanks. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Also i think Incontrol is pretty biased to mention Mondragon as a good PvZ player but leaving FiSheYe out, who is by far the better PvZ gamer. He can beat and already beat all the good zergs. Except mondi and korean pros! But as for the best PvZ i'll go with Nal_rA. He simply breathes PvZ. But i think watching his replays or vods wont help, cause his play is never able to copy. Not in a single point ;p. SO its useless.. I think watching the best foreign tosses in PvZ helps much more, since their style is at least easier to copy. Take a look at Fisheye, Arcneon, Draco ( especially on Nostalgia that guy is pretty good =D ) | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36401 Posts
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On December 06 2005 02:28 drc wrote: Thanks for mentioning "best of all time", when someone says that it gives me a good laugh.  I bet none of those "old bw heroes" are nearly as good as people are nowadays.. So how can one be 'best of all time'? When people say this they usually mean, "By contemporary standards and competition". | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On December 06 2005 07:13 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Its a pain in the ass to read smuft on the list with gamers like Ra, Grrrr, Pusan, IntotheRain ect.. Also i think Incontrol is pretty biased to mention Mondragon as a good PvZ player but leaving FiSheYe out, who is by far the better PvZ gamer. He can beat and already beat all the good zergs. Except mondi and korean pros! Yeah and midian and I'm sure a lot more people. | ||
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mitsy
United States1792 Posts
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 06 2005 07:13 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Its a pain in the ass to read smuft on the list with gamers like Ra, Grrrr, Pusan, IntotheRain ect.. Also i think Incontrol is pretty biased to mention Mondragon as a good PvZ player but leaving FiSheYe out, who is by far the better PvZ gamer. He can beat and already beat all the good zergs. Except mondi and korean pros! But as for the best PvZ i'll go with Nal_rA. He simply breathes PvZ. But i think watching his replays or vods wont help, cause his play is never able to copy. Not in a single point ;p. SO its useless.. I think watching the best foreign tosses in PvZ helps much more, since their style is at least easier to copy. Take a look at Fisheye, Arcneon, Draco ( especially on Nostalgia that guy is pretty good =D ) I think its pretty funny you accuse me of being biased than offer Fisheye up in the next sentence lol. Ask anybody that knows, a mondragon PvZ is up there with the rest in non korean terms. Im not necessarily biased, id be the first to tell you dissy will lose to nub ass t's O_O | ||
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e1-Daft
Latvia19 Posts
Ryoko's aggressive play was great also ! In the rest of the world I always liked Draco and sYs. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On December 06 2005 08:23 Twisted wrote: Yeah and midian and I'm sure a lot more people. You think mentioning mondi for !P!vz and not mentioning fisheye makes sense ? Thats all we're talking about. I think it doesnt, if you do, well.. at least i know not all guys from netherlands are like you ;P For example i love Frank Carsten, who you obviously dont know 8/ ! He is an amazing player ! But i a ''other'' ''game''. I dont think fisheye's PvZ is great. For sure it isnt compared to his pvp and pvt, but i think fisheye's pvz is still better than mondis.. D: On December 06 2005 10:50 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I think its pretty funny you accuse me of being biased than offer Fisheye up in the next sentence lol. Srry for offering fisheye one of the most successful tosses around. Doing always great in wcg, dominating germany ( with mondi ). So many tournaments won ect.. How stupid to mention fisheye in a thread which asks about good PvZ gamers.. how st.. u understand me ? 8{ | ||
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
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Asian Fever
France269 Posts
Reach,Anytime,Sonjjang and the best IntoTheRain and Garimto | ||
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Asian Fever
France269 Posts
On December 06 2005 08:09 Hot_Bid wrote: fisheye magic~phil? really? i find the smurf of fisheye =>its magic~phil! | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On December 06 2005 12:44 Asian Fever wrote: i find the smurf of fisheye =>its magic~phil! i am not frederik keitel he wouldnt be as stupid as me he wouldnt even waste his time on the board i just dont know why people even flame me if i post his name in a thread thats basically all about him He simply is the dominant foreign toss user for the last 3-4 years. With some others.. So what !? Why shouldnt i mention him if i have draco , arcneonen ect.. tt | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Asian Fever
France269 Posts
On December 06 2005 12:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote: the bias is that everyone here knows you are swinging off fisheye's nut sack with the your thumb in his ass as well. I honestly think there are a bunch of protoss (non korean) better than fisheye for PvZ and i definately think Mondragon is one of them. Bringing up Fisheye's wcg performance is nice, but what zerg has he beaten in wcg? dont he beat testie with proxy gates ? | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On December 06 2005 12:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote: the bias is that everyone here knows you are swinging off fisheye's nut sack with the your thumb in his ass as well. I honestly think there are a bunch of protoss (non korean) better than fisheye for PvZ and i definately think Mondragon is one of them. Bringing up Fisheye's wcg performance is nice, but what zerg has he beaten in wcg? holy shit.. u ignorant.. uuhh.. whatever So right now u said mondis Pvz > Fishy's PvZ Okey, no one can really prove who is right. But FiSheYe beat Testie in wcg !? 2:0 one PvT and one PvZ . FiSheYe played pretty decent vs ogogo on pgt, ect.. He beat Trek back in wcg04, who isnt that bad in ZvP either. Especially if he's training. THe fish vs trek games were one of the coolest wcg games ive seen so far.. I cant really believe that u think mondis PvZ > fisheye's PvZ .. Do NOT call me biased if u say mondis PvZ > FiSh's PvZ. T_T ANd i know that fisheyes pvz isnt as good as his pvp and pvt, but still he can beat almost any zerg, except maybe mondi. He already beat and can beat ret, sen, ect.. ect.. But i'll stop here.. We cant prove who is better but i dont see a fault of me to name fish in THIS specific thread T_T | ||
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