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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 15:13:30
June 02 2012 11:34 GMT
#1
FPV highlights of the korean SKT1 ex-progamer (T)Dove (송호영) from his stream archives.



Dove is currently busy with his studies but hopefully we can see him stream some more BW in the future, even if it's just for a showmatch or something. In the meantime, enjoy this!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295142
http://twitch.tv/in_dove
http://twitter.com/#!/Dove_kr

Thanks to Dove and all those who made the streaming for Twitch/TL possible!

music: Epik High - Forest, Love Love Love and Fly
En Taro Violet
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 11:35:58
June 02 2012 11:35 GMT
#2
He switched to SC2 a few months ago, did he not? Very fun to watch his stream in BW anyway.

EDIT: didn't see that this was implied in the OP somehow, disregard
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
June 02 2012 11:38 GMT
#3
Amazing highlight, that's it's from a FPV makes it so much more approachable than other BW highlights.
AdrianInzunza
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico44 Posts
June 02 2012 11:53 GMT
#4
gosu
Notsober
Profile Joined November 2011
France54 Posts
June 02 2012 11:56 GMT
#5
in dove is playing sc2 now ;;
life is ;;
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 02 2012 12:00 GMT
#6
Awesome video. Can you tell me the list of songs you used?
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zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary959 Posts
June 02 2012 12:01 GMT
#7
i had the bisu face :O while i was watching this. amazing micros, and video! fun mistakes too :D
can we get the music list? i really liked them.
agentzimp
TL+ Member
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
June 02 2012 12:03 GMT
#8
My favorite bw stream ever on TL by far, even though it was so short lived.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 12:05:21
June 02 2012 12:03 GMT
#9
Sziky vs In_Dove

GET IT DONE HYEON

+ Show Spoiler +
please :3 <3
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
June 02 2012 12:04 GMT
#10
It's all Epik High - Forest, Love Love Love and Fly.
En Taro Violet
NordaN
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden6 Posts
June 02 2012 12:06 GMT
#11
Really well done video as always from Stratos! , god i really miss In_dove and Topstar's stream
Unnamezz
Profile Joined May 2010
Malaysia191 Posts
June 02 2012 12:15 GMT
#12
This video by far the best FPVOD around. Good job on editing. +1
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TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
June 02 2012 12:20 GMT
#13
Same top-notch-awesome-o quality as all your videos!

Gotta say I'm impressed with the frequency you're releasing these as well. I mean I would've expected to see something new from you, but I figured I'd have to wait for at least another week :p
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
June 02 2012 12:30 GMT
#14
In_Dove's play is really beatiful, smooth and exact. And what I liked the most in his replaypack there are games, which are not only on FS.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
June 02 2012 12:48 GMT
#15
On June 02 2012 20:56 Notsober wrote:
in dove is playing sc2 now ;;

No, he stopped playing because of school.
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Arkqn
Profile Joined August 2008
France589 Posts
June 02 2012 12:49 GMT
#16
Nice video. The "oh my gaud!!" part killed me when he was trying to put down turrets
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quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
June 02 2012 13:03 GMT
#17
Thank you, this was entertaining to watch! :D
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Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
June 02 2012 13:14 GMT
#18
I remember watching his marine splits.. so sick

thanks for the vid
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zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary959 Posts
June 02 2012 13:15 GMT
#19
On June 02 2012 21:03 icystorage wrote:
Sziky vs In_Dove

GET IT DONE HYEON

+ Show Spoiler +
please :3 <3


it already happeend
agentzimp
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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
June 02 2012 13:28 GMT
#20
Bliding the lurkers, i never ever thought of that in my 8 years of playing bw
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Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
June 02 2012 13:36 GMT
#21
Nice, good to see someone still does highlight clips!
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 02 2012 13:37 GMT
#22
On June 02 2012 22:15 zimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 21:03 icystorage wrote:
Sziky vs In_Dove

GET IT DONE HYEON

+ Show Spoiler +
please :3 <3


it already happeend

source? i wanna watch it! sziky is so fun to watch
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hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
June 02 2012 13:38 GMT
#23
OMG his bio micro in tvz is so sick. Very nice FPV highlight vod.
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kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
June 02 2012 13:42 GMT
#24
wow those marine splitting and defensive matrix
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
June 02 2012 13:44 GMT
#25
I don't always pause and rewind youtube videos, but when I do, it's made by Stratos.

So great. Thx a lot!
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11296 Posts
June 02 2012 13:46 GMT
#26
Is it alright if I'm speechless a minute after watching. o.o
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
June 02 2012 14:15 GMT
#27
On June 02 2012 22:37 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 22:15 zimp wrote:
On June 02 2012 21:03 icystorage wrote:
Sziky vs In_Dove

GET IT DONE HYEON

+ Show Spoiler +
please :3 <3


it already happeend

source? i wanna watch it! sziky is so fun to watch

They played something like 20 games when In_Dove was streaming bw, Sziky won 2-3 I think. And he was about 20-0 against Octzerg^^
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 02 2012 14:29 GMT
#28
awesome video :D
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 02 2012 14:34 GMT
#29
On June 02 2012 23:15 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 22:37 icystorage wrote:
On June 02 2012 22:15 zimp wrote:
On June 02 2012 21:03 icystorage wrote:
Sziky vs In_Dove

GET IT DONE HYEON

+ Show Spoiler +
please :3 <3


it already happeend

source? i wanna watch it! sziky is so fun to watch

They played something like 20 games when In_Dove was streaming bw, Sziky won 2-3 I think. And he was about 20-0 against Octzerg^^

awww it had a thread in TL ._. oh well
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 02 2012 15:38 GMT
#30
On June 02 2012 22:15 zimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 21:03 icystorage wrote:
Sziky vs In_Dove

GET IT DONE HYEON

+ Show Spoiler +
please :3 <3


it already happeend


Cannot blame him for wanting more.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 02 2012 16:15 GMT
#31
fun video, thanks for sharing
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Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
June 02 2012 16:25 GMT
#32
Very fun to watch his SCBW stream
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
Hyeon
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Korea (South)462 Posts
June 02 2012 16:43 GMT
#33
I play Terran because of micro(yea, it's macro game thesedays.. maybe that's why i'm D level?)!!
AWESOME VIDEO between

I haven't talked to him thesedays(last time we talked was Mid May, because he hasn't been paid from his UED manager) and said he's studying. I can ask him to play bo7(5) match vs Sziky but ISL is ongoing, dunno if Sziky can play and most important thing is Korean SAT is on mid November, i shouldn't disturb him. There's only one exam in each year so he should study hard. But i think it's good to show this video to him and ask him to spare 10mins to watch this!

THANKS!!!
oO
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
June 02 2012 16:50 GMT
#34
sweet video. I feel his pain trying to build turrets in your mineral line.
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Iway
Profile Joined December 2011
France163 Posts
June 02 2012 17:06 GMT
#35
in his last season on iccup, dove never lost against a zerg. Pretty good player. But he has been playing sc2 lately, and i think he enjoyed it
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
June 02 2012 19:38 GMT
#36
On June 03 2012 02:06 Iway wrote:
in his last season on iccup, dove never lost against a zerg. Pretty good player. But he has been playing sc2 lately, and i think he enjoyed it

He said before that both games are good but he loves BW more. And as mentioned before, he stopped playing altogether to focus on his studies. ^^
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 02 2012 19:46 GMT
#37
On June 03 2012 04:38 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 02:06 Iway wrote:
in his last season on iccup, dove never lost against a zerg. Pretty good player. But he has been playing sc2 lately, and i think he enjoyed it

He said before that both games are good but he loves BW more. And as mentioned before, he stopped playing altogether to focus on his studies. ^^


Pretty much. I don't think you could have been more clear and hopefully this puts it to rest.
ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
June 02 2012 20:34 GMT
#38
I remember watching his stream. I sniped him right after he switched to sc2. I hope he comes back soon!
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Evilmonkey.
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1628 Posts
June 02 2012 20:58 GMT
#39
Guys... I miss BW T_T
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FiNTer
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland153 Posts
June 02 2012 21:14 GMT
#40
sick video <3
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Arghnews
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 21:24:56
June 02 2012 21:16 GMT
#41


User was temp banned for this post.
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
June 02 2012 21:25 GMT
#42
On June 03 2012 06:16 Arghnews wrote:
"Link"

Don't open it, it has nothing to do with the thread and is pretty disgusting.
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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
June 02 2012 22:00 GMT
#43
I love it when he changes all his rally points in a blink of an eye. So sick.
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Siphonn
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States298 Posts
June 02 2012 22:12 GMT
#44
Dove quit SC2 for studies, I was on the same team as him (FG), and used to talk to him a bunch, was sad when he left. He might be back, or might not, I don't know yet.
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
June 02 2012 22:42 GMT
#45
That was incredible lol, how good was In_Dove during his time in SKT1? Was he super gosu or just a decent player who could make it past the first few rounds of tournaments?
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 02 2012 23:08 GMT
#46
i wished him the best of luck, and i hope that he finds success outside of gaming.

...
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 23:09:38
June 02 2012 23:09 GMT
#47
dove

i used to love his stream

good luck to you in your studies!
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Profile Joined February 2010
Cuba94 Posts
June 02 2012 23:18 GMT
#48
wow really enjoyed this video... so sick
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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
June 02 2012 23:18 GMT
#49
Holy shit, this FPvid...
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Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
June 02 2012 23:46 GMT
#50
awesome video, his tvz is really sick
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
June 03 2012 00:26 GMT
#51
amazing vod good job stratos
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Denmark4783 Posts
June 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#52
<3 In_Dove, his FP-BW stream was great!!!
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Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
June 03 2012 01:04 GMT
#53
this was such a great stream, really funny bunch of guys too
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Profile Joined August 2011
United States155 Posts
June 03 2012 06:00 GMT
#54
Miss his stream so much! hopefully he will come back when he his done with his studies.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 03 2012 07:13 GMT
#55
On June 03 2012 15:00 marcelluspye wrote:
Miss his stream so much! hopefully he will come back when he his done with his studies.


i think he's done with pro gaming :<
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Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 03 2012 09:00 GMT
#56
1v1 Record:
All: 3-6 (33.33%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W L W W L L | View Games
vT: 0-2 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L | View Games
vZ: 3-3 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W W W | View Games
vP: 0-1 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L | View Games


>_> and yet the highlights were siiick..

Thanks and keep it coming!
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Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
June 03 2012 17:49 GMT
#57
Music fits really well, nice video.

Hopefully he'll have some free time to stream again in the future, it was sad that he had to stop so abruptly.
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Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 20:10:08
June 03 2012 20:09 GMT
#58
Awesome video and I enjoyed watching his BW stream. I wish he would stick it out with sc2 but I can't really blame him for moving on

BW terrans are really something else entirely.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 03 2012 23:44 GMT
#59
On June 03 2012 18:00 JieXian wrote:
1v1 Record:
All: 3-6 (33.33%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W L W W L L | View Games
vT: 0-2 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L | View Games
vZ: 3-3 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W W W | View Games
vP: 0-1 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L | View Games


>_> and yet the highlights were siiick..

Thanks and keep it coming!


Those are his televised games, his highlights are from ladder matches
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Sweden9072 Posts
June 04 2012 00:11 GMT
#60
On June 04 2012 08:44 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 18:00 JieXian wrote:
1v1 Record:
All: 3-6 (33.33%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W L W W L L | View Games
vT: 0-2 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L | View Games
vZ: 3-3 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W W W | View Games
vP: 0-1 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L | View Games


>_> and yet the highlights were siiick..

Thanks and keep it coming!


Those are his televised games, his highlights are from ladder matches

Maybe he mean that a player of Dove's caliber that can do such amazings things on ladder but still can't catch a break in televised games record because the competition and skill cap is absolutly off the hook it's crazy and amazing at the same time.

Nonetheless what he was thinking off, this is why I don't want to call modern progamers bad whoever they are and their 1v1 KeSPA records. If you would judge Dove's skill after his record you would call him bad, but we all know that his skill in Starcraft Broodwar is something 99% of the people here on TL will never reach up to. This went off topic, but my point is that we all should respect these progamers even if their records aren't that good. People quickly forgets how insane the competition and skill cap is in SC:BW and some people on this forum are really quick call out players being bad and shit.
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LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
June 04 2012 01:46 GMT
#61
On June 04 2012 09:11 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 08:44 Torenhire wrote:
On June 03 2012 18:00 JieXian wrote:
1v1 Record:
All: 3-6 (33.33%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W L W W L L | View Games
vT: 0-2 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L | View Games
vZ: 3-3 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W W W | View Games
vP: 0-1 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L | View Games


>_> and yet the highlights were siiick..

Thanks and keep it coming!


Those are his televised games, his highlights are from ladder matches

Maybe he mean that a player of Dove's caliber that can do such amazings things on ladder but still can't catch a break in televised games record because the competition and skill cap is absolutly off the hook it's crazy and amazing at the same time.

Nonetheless what he was thinking off, this is why I don't want to call modern progamers bad whoever they are and their 1v1 KeSPA records. If you would judge Dove's skill after his record you would call him bad, but we all know that his skill in Starcraft Broodwar is something 99% of the people here on TL will never reach up to. This went off topic, but my point is that we all should respect these progamers even if their records aren't that good. People quickly forgets how insane the competition and skill cap is in SC:BW and some people on this forum are really quick call out players being bad and shit.


This is so true. Even with all the joking in the chat rooms while proleague/osl/msl were playing, people calling players bad and shit. a lot of these guys with way losing records are still gosu as heck.
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Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
June 04 2012 15:22 GMT
#62
On June 04 2012 10:46 LuckyMacro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 09:11 Gosi wrote:
On June 04 2012 08:44 Torenhire wrote:
On June 03 2012 18:00 JieXian wrote:
1v1 Record:
All: 3-6 (33.33%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W L W W L L | View Games
vT: 0-2 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L | View Games
vZ: 3-3 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W W W | View Games
vP: 0-1 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L | View Games


>_> and yet the highlights were siiick..

Thanks and keep it coming!


Those are his televised games, his highlights are from ladder matches

Maybe he mean that a player of Dove's caliber that can do such amazings things on ladder but still can't catch a break in televised games record because the competition and skill cap is absolutly off the hook it's crazy and amazing at the same time.

Nonetheless what he was thinking off, this is why I don't want to call modern progamers bad whoever they are and their 1v1 KeSPA records. If you would judge Dove's skill after his record you would call him bad, but we all know that his skill in Starcraft Broodwar is something 99% of the people here on TL will never reach up to. This went off topic, but my point is that we all should respect these progamers even if their records aren't that good. People quickly forgets how insane the competition and skill cap is in SC:BW and some people on this forum are really quick call out players being bad and shit.


This is so true. Even with all the joking in the chat rooms while proleague/osl/msl were playing, people calling players bad and shit. a lot of these guys with way losing records are still gosu as heck.


this is true in most sports - not even of just the lower-tier players, but somebody might even say "dwayne wade played badly last night," even though a bad game by his standards would be a career game even for many people who make it to the nba. but i think many people forget with regard to starcraft, since it's an esport, that this is just a way of speaking, so it certainly bears repeating.

that said, people may still be right to say that in_dove was genuinely more talented than his televised record indicates, even given the incredibly difficulty of televised competition. i don't know enough about bw to be able to judge that from a first-person stream of games played against a wide swath of people, but he certainly impressed me
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Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 16:51:29
June 04 2012 16:50 GMT
#63
On June 05 2012 00:22 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 10:46 LuckyMacro wrote:
On June 04 2012 09:11 Gosi wrote:
On June 04 2012 08:44 Torenhire wrote:
On June 03 2012 18:00 JieXian wrote:
1v1 Record:
All: 3-6 (33.33%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W L W W L L | View Games
vT: 0-2 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L | View Games
vZ: 3-3 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W W W | View Games
vP: 0-1 (0.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L | View Games


>_> and yet the highlights were siiick..

Thanks and keep it coming!


Those are his televised games, his highlights are from ladder matches

Maybe he mean that a player of Dove's caliber that can do such amazings things on ladder but still can't catch a break in televised games record because the competition and skill cap is absolutly off the hook it's crazy and amazing at the same time.

Nonetheless what he was thinking off, this is why I don't want to call modern progamers bad whoever they are and their 1v1 KeSPA records. If you would judge Dove's skill after his record you would call him bad, but we all know that his skill in Starcraft Broodwar is something 99% of the people here on TL will never reach up to. This went off topic, but my point is that we all should respect these progamers even if their records aren't that good. People quickly forgets how insane the competition and skill cap is in SC:BW and some people on this forum are really quick call out players being bad and shit.


This is so true. Even with all the joking in the chat rooms while proleague/osl/msl were playing, people calling players bad and shit. a lot of these guys with way losing records are still gosu as heck.


this is true in most sports - not even of just the lower-tier players, but somebody might even say "dwayne wade played badly last night," even though a bad game by his standards would be a career game even for many people who make it to the nba. but i think many people forget with regard to starcraft, since it's an esport, that this is just a way of speaking, so it certainly bears repeating.

that said, people may still be right to say that in_dove was genuinely more talented than his televised record indicates, even given the incredibly difficulty of televised competition. i don't know enough about bw to be able to judge that from a first-person stream of games played against a wide swath of people, but he certainly impressed me


Yes don't worry I'm not retarded lol. It says so much about the level of play in BW. Microing like that isn't enough to get you far enough, there are still so many other deeper aspects of the game.

Which reminds me of the Proleague finals. In the interview Flash was asked what could he have done better in his 2 games. He said that if he didn't lose the dropship vs Fantasy he would have done better but when asked about Bisu, all he said was "Bisu played well". No "if only I had prepared vultures and mines earlier" that everyone was talking about.

To explain on that, a few days after the finals someone posted about how Bisu had two citadels and let Flash kill one while researching speed with the other, which was a waaaay better explaination than Flash "being careless" or "caught off guard"

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329538&currentpage=11#206
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329538&currentpage=11#215

too bad his post didn't get much attention since it was posted quite late.
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rupp_lekkens
Profile Joined February 2012
Chile64 Posts
June 04 2012 17:30 GMT
#64
Great highlights! :D
please correct me if I'm wrong in my english
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
June 04 2012 18:19 GMT
#65
Awesome! I really like the music choice as well, very nice to chill with.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
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