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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On July 18 2012 11:07 Ideas wrote: has anyone made 3 OSL finals in a row before? boxer maybe? Yup Boxer. Sp 01 Hanbitsoft - BoxeR vs JinNam Su 01 Coca-Cola - BoxeR vs YellOw Fa 01 SKY 2001 - GARIMTO vs BoxeR | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
[Edit: just fyi, it was already top on the list when I replied, so I didn't help bump it.] | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On July 18 2012 12:00 dRaW wrote: There was Flash v Jaedong as well when they both made consecutive finals That was in MSL  And if you count MSL, then sAviOr destroys everything with 5 consecutive finals. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On July 18 2012 09:58 dRaW wrote: lol... no hes not his current level is his peak which is still lower than flash's peak + flash has the most titles and best win% Good stuff for Fantasy. But he's not close to taking anything away from Flash's legacy. Flash losing doesn't change anything. He will always be the greatest terran and bw player of all time. Record and wins over Jaedong at his peak speak for themselves. Saying Fantasy would have surpassed him is pure speculation. Fantasy had a long time to prove himself the best. Winning in tvt against Flash is ultra impressive. But he also lost to Jangbi last time around. And Jangbi at his peak is no Jaedong or Bisu. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On July 18 2012 12:37 Subversive wrote: Good stuff for Fantasy. But he's not close to taking anything away from Flash's legacy. Flash losing doesn't change anything. He will always be the greatest terran and bw player of all time. Record and wins over Jaedong at his peak speak for themselves. Saying Fantasy would have surpassed him is pure speculation. Fantasy had a long time to prove himself the best. Winning in tvt against Flash is ultra impressive. But he also lost to Jangbi last time around. And Jangbi at his peak is no Jaedong or Bisu. Yeah I agree. Things would have been different if Fantasy had won Batoo OSL. That was so close. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On July 18 2012 11:46 ShadeR wrote: Yup Boxer. Sp 01 Hanbitsoft - BoxeR vs JinNam Su 01 Coca-Cola - BoxeR vs YellOw Fa 01 SKY 2001 - GARIMTO vs BoxeR so did flash (and the msl at same time) Ever, Korean air, korean air 2 (nate, hanastock, bigfile) | ||
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Archers_bane
United States1338 Posts
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metzninja
New Zealand626 Posts
But yeah, I'm glad that at least two players have avoided being completely shortchanged by the last couple of years. It's fitting that they're both in the last final  | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On July 18 2012 13:15 Archers_bane wrote: I dont think there is any doubt that Fantasy is an S caliber player! What wonderful play he has been showing Not just cementing his place, but playing better than most of TBLS. Would have been interesting to see how players like Fantasy, Soulkey and newer players would have performed. And Effort. I love Effort. He was always amazing. I'm sure he could have reclaimed that spark. EDIT: And Stats. How can anyone not like Stats? He's a rock for his team. Like a better version of Sea. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On July 18 2012 12:49 endy wrote: Yeah I agree. Things would have been different if Fantasy had won Batoo OSL. That was so close. Thinking back of that series still gave me nerd chills ... | ||
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pat777
United States356 Posts
Wish Fantasy faced this player instead of Jangbi in the finals. Though I guess Reality is one of Jangbi's practice partners. Jangbi's getting used to reality before facing fantasy. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
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fakgfdgfdh
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On June 01 2012 16:44 Scarecrow wrote: That must've been why flash won the awards for regular season MVP and most wins -.- Agreed Fantasy beat him in 1 game in the final and in what way has the mvpaward got to do with who was the best performing player that season? On June 01 2012 18:05 J1.au wrote: You absolutely cannot say that. I mean what the hell, Fantasy isn't some young rookie who has burst on the scene only to find it ending before he can prove himself. He's a fucking 5 year veteran of the game. He has had opportunity after opportunity to prove himself and has come up short the vast majority of times. You just can't pretend like he didn't have his chances and must therefore "extrapolate" from his meager success in Brood War's dying days. prove himself what? came up short how? chances for what On June 02 2012 02:04 revy wrote: Fanta's first game on TLPD is before Flash's first game (I understand it's a miniscule amount of time before, but it's still before). He had enough time to rise to TBLS level, he didn't. It is sad that BW is dying as Fanta is showing his best play ever, but it's kinda silly to say Fanta didn't have opportunity. That's kind of like saying if Fanta plays his last BW game and wins that implies Fanta was going to have a 100% winrate from there on. But this is foolish, we shouldn't be arguing about things like this. Fanta has been playing excellent starcraft for quite a while and deserves the top spot on ELO. Let's hope for some good (exciting) series play from him. enough time what? he has. On July 18 2012 12:37 Subversive wrote: Good stuff for Fantasy. But he's not close to taking anything away from Flash's legacy. Flash losing doesn't change anything. He will always be the greatest terran and bw player of all time. Record and wins over Jaedong at his peak speak for themselves. Saying Fantasy would have surpassed him is pure speculation. Fantasy had a long time to prove himself the best. Winning in tvt against Flash is ultra impressive. But he also lost to Jangbi last time around. And Jangbi at his peak is no Jaedong or Bisu. flash also lost to dear the last time. and dear is no fantasy. this is not how you compare | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
On July 18 2012 14:16 pat777 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/712_Reality Wish Fantasy faced this player instead of Jangbi in the finals. Though I guess Reality is one of Jangbi's practice partners. Jangbi's getting used to reality before facing fantasy. why would reality ever get near a finals? hes terrible... that would be a boring finals to watch I expect Fantasy to take this 3-1 or 3-0, go Fantasy! | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10568 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On July 22 2012 17:41 dRaW wrote: why would reality ever get near a finals? hes terrible... that would be a boring finals to watch I expect Fantasy to take this 3-1 or 3-0, go Fantasy! It's just a pun and a humourous comparison of the names 'Reality' and 'Fantasy'. I missed it at first too. | ||
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catabowl
United States815 Posts
Yeah, no pressure. Also, since Fantasy got his Lasik (got rid of his shiny red glasses) he's been unstoppable. Flash hit his peak in 2010. I believe Fantasy would have hit his peak by the end of this year. This is how I see it though. If I had to choose between Flash and Fantasy for a 1 game, everything on the line, I choose Fantasy. It is hard to prepare for Fantasy. He has done every build in TvT you can think of and Flash would have to scout mad. In a 5 game set, It is a coin flip. No one saw the 3-0 coming from either side. What that told me is that Fantasy is a great preparer. He saw some kind of hole in Flash's game (very small but a hole) and he exploited it and won the games. Flash is all-time great. No one is saying he's not. He's defintely Top 3 of all-time but as of now, Fantasy is better. Same thing in Tennis. We would all agree Federer is one of the Top 3 Greatest tennis players ever, but if he played Nadal we would choose Nadal because Nadal is slightly better at this moment (when healthy). That does not take away anything Fed has done. Do you see the comparison? We will never know what would have happened 2-3 years from now. I can just picture the scene when Fantasy/Flash/Jaedong/Bisu/Stork would enter the Air Force at the same time and all be on ACE... man that would have been fun to see. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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