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[AthruN]
Australia25 Posts
most of the people left on iccup are trash and fish is too hard for you but op team liquid good | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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CosmicHippo
United States547 Posts
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MZR
United States41 Posts
T - 2-3 rax Marine/Medic/Firebat rush Z - 4-pool rush (not very often) Z - 3 hatch hydra/lurker P - 4-gate zealot (not even +1 speedzeal, just straight) P - DT rush (only sends 1, not very often) P - 12 Nexus (rarely) Anyway, against the AI, you'll get some speed and mechanics - use it especially to work on micro. Sooner or later, find a human opponent (someone else can tell you about that - the good news is I can play by LAN at least) | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On April 06 2012 22:25 MZR wrote: Ahhh, memories. I remember the first time the AI 4-pooled me. Why I wound up choosing Protoss (Forge 1st FE just to counter that.) The AI only does 6 openings total for all three races, which are: T - 2-3 rax Marine/Medic/Firebat rush Z - 4-pool rush (not very often) Z - 3 hatch hyrda/lurker P - 4-gate zealot (not even +1 speedzeal, just straight) P - DT rush (only sends 1, not very often) P - 12 Nexus (rarely) Anyway, against the AI, you'll get some speed and mechanics - use it especially to work on micro. Sooner or later, find a human opponent (someone else can tell you about that - the good news is I can play by LAN at least) I've seen a forge fast expand too, but builds the forge in the main. I've seen some crazy advanced stuff, way ahead of 1998 metagame. Actually I freaked out when I saw AI do FFE after I started doing it on iccup, i thought it was learning my builds or something. | ||
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stork4ever
United States1036 Posts
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MZR
United States41 Posts
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MZR
United States41 Posts
On April 06 2012 23:17 sluggaslamoo wrote: I've seen a forge fast expand too, but builds the forge in the main. I've seen some crazy advanced stuff, way ahead of 1998 metagame. Actually I freaked out when I saw AI do FFE after I started doing it on iccup, i thought it was learning my builds or something. True that, it seems the AI is most varied playing as protoss. All the same, it has some disadvantages. The AI: 1 - never scouts 2 - never adjusts BO to account for you 3 - attacks predictably, with no micro (If you survive the first eight minutes and have a decent economy, you will wail on the poor machine every time) 4 - never walls in 5 - never suspects traps (one that I've done, it's cheese but I like it: send 7 probe to scout and build a pylon just outside your natural. 8 probe build forge and 2 photon cannons. When scout finds opponent, attack a worker. The rest of the workers will bullrush, so send the scout back toward your natural, and the cannons will come up just in time to take them.) A human would never fall for this kind of junk. So as before, sooner or later you hit a ceiling against the machine. Play humans any time you can... | ||
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Scarbo
294 Posts
Terran: if you like to work harder than your opponent to achieve the same result, play T. Expect to lose to lesser players, specially P. Best mirror match-up IMO. Best music and unit sounds too. Protoss: easier to play mechanically, boring music and unit sounds. Zerg: reasonable challenge, race-design-wise so different it's almost like playing a different game. Cool game though, best of luck to you. I suggest you join sGs since there's a lot of noobs and also some good players that are willing to help with practice and such. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On April 07 2012 01:59 Scarbo wrote: I came back to BW about 2 months ago and after about 400 games vs humans my experience so far is: Terran: if you like to work harder than your opponent to achieve the same result, play T. Expect to lose to lesser players, specially P. Best mirror match-up IMO. Best music and unit sounds too. Protoss: easier to play mechanically, boring music and unit sounds. Zerg: reasonable challenge, race-design-wise so different it's almost like playing a different game. Cool game though, best of luck to you. I suggest you join sGs since there's a lot of noobs and also some good players that are willing to help with practice and such. omg is this so true. It feels so good though once you get D+ and up! Sometimes I want to punch my screen while playing TvP. I set up a decent mine field only to have lamelots..errr speedlots mine drag right onto my tanks. | ||
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SYGY
Canada88 Posts
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
On April 07 2012 03:13 Silentness wrote: omg is this so true. It feels so good though once you get D+ and up! Sometimes I want to punch my screen while playing TvP. I set up a decent mine field only to have lamelots..errr speedlots mine drag right onto my tanks. I wonder why it's always the Terran players that think their race is hard. Is it because of TvP? If you played ZvT, then you will see Zerg has to work harder. Delaying the enemy push with mutas only, secure and defend the third successfully, holding of marine drops in all bases while at the same time coping with marine squads which dodge swarm. On April 07 2012 03:26 SYGY wrote: Thanks so much guys! is there anything that can get me caught up? I'm gonna play terran. :D I've decided, I destroyed Protoss AI, with mass vulture, quick spider mines with siege tanks as well. :D I'm not gonna say Im good but i need to improve a lot! >,< any terrans that can help me? Man this is like me playing sc2 from the start (BW is my second RTS and SC2 is my second) Do you use Vulture Patrol Micro? It's great fun. | ||
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SYGY
Canada88 Posts
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Scarbo
294 Posts
On April 07 2012 03:30 blubbdavid wrote: I wonder why it's always the Terran players that think their race is hard. Is it because of TvP? If you played ZvT, then you will see Zerg has to work harder. Delaying the enemy push with mutas only, secure and defend the third successfully, holding of marine drops in all bases while at the same time coping with marine squads which dodge swarm. Do you use Vulture Patrol Micro? It's great fun. I disagree that Z has to work harder in TvZ. It's pretty equal in terms of micro, up until ultras come into play at least. While its true that muta micro, burrowing shit and defending drops is hard, it's also hard to do multi-drops, keep ur marines together so they dont get sniped by mutas while at the same time walking towards zerg base/3rd, and stimming/falling back when lurkers come. When DS comes into play, it's even more micro intensive for both sides. Also having medics near marines and protecting Science Vessels, defending from ling run-bys and shit... | ||
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SYGY
Canada88 Posts
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
On April 07 2012 05:08 SYGY wrote: Holy crap, terran sounds hard... >,< ugh w/e, I'll just go mass mech. Don't. You may win some games, but Zergs will absolutely hate you. MechvZ is more noobish than Protoss. | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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SYGY
Canada88 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
Don't be discouraged either, BW isn't easy | ||
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