EPT2011 Korean e-Sports Awards Winners - Page 4
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Indeed Protoss of the year is a really difficult question... It would actually be easier if Jangbi had slumped right after his OSL title, but except that stupid 2gate against EffOrt, he won everything else. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
I give Jangbi 60-40 odds for winning the best Protoss award, since historically there's been a stronger emphasis on individual league performance for the award .. but with the gradual shift in emphasis of importance towards Proleague, it could be different than thought. | ||
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
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WTFTerran
Russian Federation286 Posts
protoss: jangbi terran: fantasy zerg: hydra coach: kt best player: BOGUS!! | ||
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
On December 20 2011 15:02 doothegee wrote: Stork not in Protoss of the Year. What a joke. Because he was so STRONG in the last year, wasn't he? | ||
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1a2a3aPro
Canada227 Posts
Best map: Circuit Breaker, decent margin. Protoss of the Year: Bisu, by a very narrow margin. (Vote for consistency through whole year) Terran of the Year: Flash. Fantasy second. Zerg of the Year: Jaedong, by a small margin. Hydra second. Best Coach: Coach Park, good margin. Best Proleague Team: SKT1 Best Player: Flash Friendship Award: What the heck is this? | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5617 Posts
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Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
Hydra had sub 50% winning rate in ZvT and over 70% in ZvZ. I think you could argue that his MSL victory was partly due to having all Zerg semis. Going further, out of his 88 played so far this year, he's faced zerg 40 times, that is almost half of the games. It is impressive to have such a high win% in ZvZ but I find Jaedong's ZvT even more impressive. And he continuously beat the final boss Flash. I'm a JD fanboy so maybe I'm a bit biased here... and I know I should consider ZvP for both too (hydra went 74%) but meh :x | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32282 Posts
It's been a while (probably since EffOrt or Action vs Flash that a Zerg made me go "oh wow" repeteadly during a game. | ||
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hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
On December 20 2011 21:05 Ubersturmfuhrer wrote: I think it should be Jaedong over Hydra. Looking at this year's statistics from tlpd, they both had around the same winning percentage of 63-64. However about half of Jaedong's losses came from the most volatile matchup in BW: ZvZ. Losing half of your games in ZvZ is more excusable than losing so in another matchup. Hydra had sub 50% winning rate in ZvT and over 70% in ZvZ. I think you could argue that his MSL victory was partly due to having all Zerg semis. Going further, out of his 88 played so far this year, he's faced zerg 40 times, that is almost half of the games. It is impressive to have such a high win% in ZvZ but I find Jaedong's ZvT even more impressive. And he continuously beat the final boss Flash. I'm a JD fanboy so maybe I'm a bit biased here... and I know I should consider ZvP for both too (hydra went 74%) but meh :x Are you arguing that some matchups are more important than others? If so, allow me to retort. Bullshit. Same winning percentages + not same individual league performances. It's not that hard. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Protoss: Bisu.. 63 PL WINS, breaking Flash's old record. No one will ever break it with the new format. Also, JangBi sucked for 90% of 2011 and kind of lucked his way into the OSL finals where he did boss-mode it, but that was it. Bisu's 63 pl wins was consistent throughout the year. Terran: Flash, similar reasons to Bisu. Although Fantasy made the 2 consecutive OSL finals (winning one), Flash carried his team through the PL and to a PL championship. Not to mention the MSL win which got him his golden badge. Zerg: Hydra. I wanna say Hydra had the better or comparable PL record to the Dong, while being more successful in individual leagues. Best Coach: Lee Ji Hoon, getting KT to the PL finals despite managing Flash's injury, etc. Best Team: Overall team, I'd say SKT1. They went undefeated in R1, won Winner's League, and went to the grand finals. Best Player: Flash. Flash's individual league accolades and overall PL win trumps Bisu. Friendship Award: No effing clue, lol Most Popular Player: Bisu ? or someone from TBLS | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On December 19 2011 19:50 ppshchik wrote: T: Fantasy- Flash was godlike in 2010 but hasn't made it into 2 OSL finals this year, which Fantasy did. P: Jangbi-WInning an OSL is way more impressive than Bisu's achievements imo. But Bisu is still going to win since he's more handsome. Z: Jaedong-His ZvZ has slumped this year which knocked him out in many important tournaments. But his ZvT and ZvP still blow Hydra and Zero out of the water. so biased? terran will be without question flash, who led his team to victory in SPL grand finals and as much as i want jaedong to win for zerg, its really hard to call among the 3 candidates | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5617 Posts
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On December 20 2011 15:02 doothegee wrote: Stork not in Protoss of the Year. What a joke. Probably because he hasn't really done anything this year. 0-3'd in the OSL final, knocked out of Ro16 0-3 in the following one, and average results in PL. I love Stork to death, but there's no way to justify putting him in over Bisu, Jangbi, or even Stats, who at least was crucial in KT's PL victory. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On December 21 2011 01:06 Kiett wrote: Probably because he hasn't really done anything this year. 0-3'd in the OSL final, knocked out of Ro16 0-3 in the following one, and average results in PL. I love Stork to death, but there's no way to justify putting him in over Bisu, Jangbi, or even Stats, who at least was crucial in KT's PL victory. Shinhan Proleague Season 2010/2011 Stats: 42 wins 26 losses, team finishes 3rd Stork: 40 wins 29 losses, team finishes 5th Shinhan Proleague Season 2010/2011 Post-Season Stats: 6 wins 3 losses, team finishes 1st Stork: 3 wins 0 losses, team knocked out of RO6 Individual leagues Stats: No appearances Stork: Round of eight, 2nd place finish, round of 16, round of 16 I don't see how Stats was the better player than Stork besides having Flash on his team. There was no protoss that got respectable results in all competitions. Stork was the most constant force for the protoss race in the individual leagues, as well as being one of the best out of his race in the Proleague. A solid all-round performance that lacked bite. A mediocre effort? Perhaps, but no other protoss can claim to having a solid all-round performance like Stork did this year. Of course it's upto the players to etch their performances into the viewer's mind with trophies and memorable performances, and that's what makes the difference in these awards. Stork's results are harder to glorify than Bisu's or Jangb's, but he doesn't have the glaring weaknesses in their resumes either. Stork was the best player for his team, as well as the best player of his own race in the individual leagues overall. That's something no protoss can boast. Awards are something that reminds and sums up the year to the average viewer of the memorable players and their performances. We, as die-hard E-Sports fans, should be ashamed if we allow such awards to cloud our judgements when we should all know better. Stork was by far the superior player to Stats this year, and if no one is there to remember that, we'll all be brainwashed by a glamour and glitz of these awards. | ||
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