EPT2011 Korean e-Sports Awards Winners - Page 3
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
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Gann1
United States1578 Posts
Fantasy vs Flash is extremely close for T of the year, but I've got to give it to Flash for his PL championship/MSL championship. Fantasy appeared in 2 OSL finals, but again, didn't manage to lead his team to that PL championship. Hydra takes Z of the year, for being the only one to win an individual league. His team didn't do well in the PL playoffs, but neither did Zero's and Jaedong's didn't even make it. That's my objective opinion. I guarantee Bisu/Flash/Jaedong will take the awards simply because it's a popularity contest, but I'm proud of TL for voting Jangbi > Bisu and Hydra > Jaedong (so far) | ||
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therockmanxx
Peru1174 Posts
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19399 Posts
On December 19 2011 20:32 writer22816 wrote: I will get so mad if Bisu wins the Protoss award. Jangbi won the OSL, amazing 3-2 win, beat Flash in Bo3 and Fantasy in Bo5. All Bisu did was beat a bunch of scrubs in PL. Actually Bisu beat Flash in the Winner's League final to take the championship. How is that so easily forgotten? Would you count him as one of the scrubs Bisu dismantled? Jangbi beat Flash when Flash was in a much worse state with his wrist condition and watching those matches vs Jangbi you could tell it wasn't the same guy Flash normally was. Other points: Bisu redesigned the approach to vZ in 2011. In '10 no protoss could win a match against 5 hatch hydra and all of a sudden he popularizes a new build that makes him unbeatable vZ. Bisu stomping terran. He showed everyone that he has become the best vT protoss currently (even better then stork). One or two more wins will in fact put him past stork in for highest elo vT. Number 1 elo ranking. It takes a monster year and some for any player to pass Jaedong and Flash in elo. Coming from a massive slump, Bisu barreled down Proleague lane to take the number 1 elo spot. 4AKS. Bisu had 4 all kills including 3 consecutive All Kills this season. On December 20 2011 03:19 therockmanxx wrote: This should include SC2 progamers ..... Get out of here dude. Follow this link for SC2 awards and then learn what forum you are posting in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295447 | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On December 20 2011 04:13 kamikami wrote: *Sign* why don't they just have the "most handsome progamer of the year" award, so that Bisu is sure to have one award. I hate those meaningless awards. Cause Perfectman would win all the time. | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
On December 20 2011 03:19 therockmanxx wrote: This should include SC2 progamers ..... what ? not really, no... | ||
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ArtisaBang
195 Posts
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chesshaha
United States1117 Posts
By.Sun JangBi Flash Hydra KT Best player: Flash Most popular: Bisu | ||
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Ideas
United States8182 Posts
On December 20 2011 02:33 konadora wrote: wtf at the best map finalists yea i know wtf. they even got rid of benzene after only 2 rounds. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On December 20 2011 04:08 BisuDagger wrote: Actually Bisu beat Flash in the Winner's League final to take the championship. How is that so easily forgotten? Would you count him as one of the scrubs Bisu dismantled? Jangbi beat Flash when Flash was in a much worse state with his wrist condition and watching those matches vs Jangbi you could tell it wasn't the same guy Flash normally was. Other points: Bisu redesigned the approach to vZ in 2011. In '10 no protoss could win a match against 5 hatch hydra and all of a sudden he popularizes a new build that makes him unbeatable vZ. Bisu stomping terran. He showed everyone that he has become the best vT protoss currently (even better then stork). One or two more wins will in fact put him past stork in for highest elo vT. Number 1 elo ranking. It takes a monster year and some for any player to pass Jaedong and Flash in elo. Coming from a massive slump, Bisu barreled down Proleague lane to take the number 1 elo spot. 4AKS. Bisu had 4 all kills including 3 consecutive All Kills this season. Get out of here dude. Follow this link for SC2 awards and then learn what forum you are posting in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295447 We all know Bisu has been by far the most impressive protoss throughout the entire year. However, these awards aren't handed out on those basis. History tells us that. 1. Anytime did next to nothing besides his fairytale OGN Starleague victory. Reach played, by quite some margin, the bigger role for his race. Anytime ended getting the award. 2. Bisu did next to nothing besides his shocking MSL victory. Nal Ra had broader success throughout the year, but in the end what Bisu did was more memorable and that was that. Bisu had a spectacular year, but had almost nothing to show for it. Flash, like it or not, ended up overshadowing the entire SK Telecom T1 team at the end of the season to guide his fairly mediocre team to victory. Jangbi stole the spotlight in the individual leagues department with his dramatic rise to the top in what has been a fairly forgettable season with no single dominating force. The only thing Bisu will be remembered for by a average viewer will be his triumph over his arch-rival Flash in the Winner's League finals, and we all know that plays seconds fiddle to more important tournaments in the grand scheme of things. It's just an award, and sometimes the justifications for a certain winner aren't crystal clear, and that's what fuels discussions an interest. I can tell you that SK Telecom T1 will never trade their number one asset to a player such as Jangbi, who in his own right is an amazing player. At the same time, I bet Bisu would gladly trade all his all-kills and the excellent accomplishments he accumulated over the Proleague season just to have an OGN Starleague victory that provoked such heavy emotions in the hearts of all E-Sports fans. If Bisu snatched glory from Flash's fingers that fateful day and handed his team the much needed revenge from last year, we would have had a much heated discussion over the value of an individual leagues triumph against a Proleague triumph. Sadly, Bisu never fully captured his chance to seal his fate in what was a wonderful year for him result-wise. That's what counts in the eyes of some. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On December 20 2011 04:08 BisuDagger wrote: Actually Bisu beat Flash in the Winner's League final to take the championship. How is that so easily forgotten? Would you count him as one of the scrubs Bisu dismantled? Jangbi beat Flash when Flash was in a much worse state with his wrist condition and watching those matches vs Jangbi you could tell it wasn't the same guy Flash normally was. It's actually strange how you make this conclusion because Bisu's win over Flash was clearly a snipe build tailored to beat him in a Bo1. Immediately after the WL finals he loses 0-2 to Flash in MSL group stages. And if Bisu was so good then why didn't the coach send him out vs Flash in the PL ace when everything was on the line? Jangbi's win over Flash in a Bo3 was clearly much more impressive. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Circuit Breaker: So balanced. No features that are exceptional to one matchup. Slightly small main forces expo. Rookie of the year: (P)By.Sun (SK Telecom T1) won his PL finals game to put stranglehold on KT. All killed STX masters against OZ. Protoss of the year: (P)Bisu (SK Telecom T1) won the PL finals game. Golden AK. 63 wins including undefeated in round 1. Terran of the year: (T)Flash (KT Rolster) anyone who says otherwise is high. Zerg of the year: (Z)Hydra (CJ Entus) It pains me to say this but he is the one who won the ZvZ gaunlet. He is the one who went to the semifinals again. Best Coach Award: KT's Lee Ji Hoon He found flash several years ago, and has never looked back since. Other categories: Best Progame Team (all but Team 8): KT Best Player: Flash Friendship Award: WTF is this? Nominees are (in order, for those that can't read Korean): (Z)Jaedong On December 20 2011 11:27 writer22816 wrote: It's actually strange how you make this conclusion because Bisu's win over Flash was clearly a snipe build tailored to beat him in a Bo1. Immediately after the WL finals he loses 0-2 to Flash in MSL group stages. And if Bisu was so good then why didn't the coach send him out vs Flash in the PL ace when everything was on the line? Jangbi's win over Flash in a Bo3 was clearly much more impressive. Flash dominated him in G1. In G2, it was turrets vs expand, Flash's fault, not Jangbi's brilliance. G3 was BO advantage. Fast third against bulldog. | ||
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pappelee
China34 Posts
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
Flash Hydra | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
Did you by chance read any of the game analysis ' written about the Jangbi, Flash series because u are way off on your description of both games 2 and 3. Edit: Also rookie fo the year may not be straight up sun. Both reality and grape had success in MSL (both runs were eventually stopped by jaedong). | ||
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shucklesors
Singapore1176 Posts
Hands down Jaedong. | ||
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