"It's not that protoss is strong against zerg, it's that SKTelecom Protoss are just that good"
This is what happens when get this Protoss Trio together. The SKT Protoss line stood their ground as they faced the KT Zerg line to give their team its 2nd consecutive win. It's not that protoss is strong against zerg, it's that SKTelecom Protoss are just that good and you can expect to see this continue throughout the season.
Q The three of you at 2 wins each and so does your team. Your thoughts? Bisu - Oddly, the three members that got wins during the last match got the wins during this match. It's surprising. It's a weird feeling. Feels like since the map order was the same and the opponent teams' colours were the same, we couldn't help but win. We felt as the match in Busan was really important so we practiced extra hard and so it feels good to have good results. Rain - I feel good because I got to come to Busan and perform on such a large stage. I'm also happy because I have no losses (laughes). I want to continue to perform well. BeSt - I think this is the first time coming to Busan in the middle of a season. It usually feels good to win in a different city. (laughs) I feel like it was more fun because so many fans came to cheer. We'll have to continue to work harder so that you can continue to have faith in the Protoss trio.
Q SKT Protoss line faced the KT Zerg Line Bisu - It didn't really matter to me. I am very confident in my zerg matchup so when I saw that a zerg came out, I was like "Thank you." [T/N: That's the confident Bisu I love] BeSt - Because I practiced that map so much that it didn't matter who came out, I had no thoughts of losing. Although I still have to prove myself, I can say that I am a lot better than last season. Rain - Didn't matter what race came out. I don't know about my hyungs [Bisuand BeStt] but I have confidence no matter what race comes out. (laughs)
Q There has been a lot of praise about this future S-Class player Rain - Although I enjoy receiving the praise, I focus more on proving myself. Bisu - Rain is a practice nut. I don't even need to say it but he has potential to be winning some individual leagues now. BeSt - In the practice room, we see Rain as Taek-Myung Class [T/N: Um... Directly translated: Bisantasy-Class?] It would be nice if they started to take out the "Doh" [T/N: BeSt's part of FBB] It should be "Taek-Myung-Jeong" now (laughs) [T/N: Bisantarain haha] Even when you're not doing your best during games, you can get a lot out of just the experience. Maybe he's good at Starcraft because he played a lot of WoW before becoming a progamer.
Q There's been a lot of cases where players don't play as well after winning the Rookie of the Year award Rain - To be honest, I heard that so much that I started to worry. It could happen but with the way things are going, isn't it possible that I will get past this Jinx? I went through an 8 game losing streak last season and I don't want to revisit that again.
Q - Did you not come out expecting to snipe Flash? BeSt - The coaching staff says I was sent out to snipe a zerg but I think if that were the case, they wouldn't have sent me out. (laughs)
Q - You're team is now tied for most consecutive wins. [T/N: Apparently SKT is on a 12 game winning streak. I'm guessing that that is during proleague regular season and not the grand finals?] Bisu - Before we came to Busan, talk about most consecutive wins broke out. I'm happy that we tied for most consecutive wins. To be honest, because we haven't been playing too often, I thought we would have lost game sense but that wasn't the case. Now that we don't have anymore breaks between games, we will focus on stacking those consecutive wins.
Q - Fantasy doesn't seem to be getting any chances to play BeSt - This is Fantasy's home town and so his family came out to watch him play so it's quite unfortunate that he wasn't sent out for the 2nd match in a row. Fantasy says "I hate this more than losing. It feels like I'm being forgotten." [T/N: Tears~] So please, I'm begging you all not to forget about Fantasy! (laughs)
Q - If you were to pick a rival team BeSt - None. But Team 8 looks scary. They have that scary pose. Starting with their coach. Rain - CJ looks like they have the strongest lineup. No other team really comes to mind. Bisu - Samsung Khan. Something feels different about them. Because I practiced a lot with no rest and because we haven't played many games that I don't think I am fully recharged just yet. [T/N: Way to go away from the question and just start talking about yourself Bisu]
Fomos interview says something different for Bisu's answer. More along the lines of Samsung practicing harder and preparing more.
Q - Any final words? BeSt - I'm very happy. (laughs) I would love it if our managers bought us something really delicious and, since we won our 2nd straight game, we would be able to get some vacation time. It's a bit of a fantasy though. (laughs) Bisu - I get a bit jealous when I watch other sports and see that the teams get to play in different cities. And although we came here for an event it was nice to be able play somewhere different. It was kind of like what it would feel like if eSports had regional teams. Thank you to all the fans who came out to cheer. Rain - Although right now it is the Protoss Trio, I would like it if we were winning with the other players as well. I want to thank my teammates that helped me practice.
I just read Fomos'' interview as well and, although it's generally the same interview, I like their wording better. The translated Fomos interview should be up soon enough so you should read that one as well because it will probably be better.
Bisus rivaly against Khan. I guess it's less about Khan, but more about Jangbi / Stork. They manage to make final appearances in individual leages, while he doesn't lol (of course this season will be his)
Confident Bisu is the best Bisu :D Yes yes yes I would like to see Sun go very deep and even win an individual league title. I'd prefer it even more if Bisu won though.
and poor fantasy, his parents came but he didn't get a chance to play D:
since we won our 2nd straight game, we would be able to get some vacation time.
Don't relax just yet Best, this is just the beginning. He said in previous interviews that wins tend to get to his head very quickly, hope he continues to train hard and do well.
On December 09 2011 22:46 sinistral wrote: Can't help but laugh at Bisu's ridiculous hairstyle now. His hair makes him look fat.
lool his hairs always been the same. it just goes through phases where he doesnt cut it for a while and it becomes a huge helmet of hair. then he cuts it and looks more clean and shit then grows it out all over again. the bisu hair cycle.
On December 09 2011 22:46 sinistral wrote: Can't help but laugh at Bisu's ridiculous hairstyle now. His hair makes him look fat.
lool his hairs always been the same. it just goes through phases where he doesnt cut it for a while and it becomes a huge helmet of hair. then he cuts it and looks more clean and shit then grows it out all over again. the bisu hair cycle.
Bisu's hair is the only one worthy of having a cycle. Hairtoss Fighting!
Q - Did you not come out expecting to snipe Flash? BeSt - The coaching staff says I was sent out to snipe a zerg but I think if that were the case, they wouldn't have sent me out. (laughs)
haha
Q - If you were to pick a rival team Bisu - Samsung Khan. Something feels different about them. Because I practiced a lot with no rest and because we haven't played many games that I don't think I am fully recharged just yet. [T/N: Way to go away from the question and just start talking about yourself Bisu]
On December 09 2011 22:05 rslee wrote: Q SKT Protoss line faced the KT Zerg Line Bisu - It didn't really matter to me. I am very confident in my zerg matchup so when I saw that a zerg came out, I was like "Thank you." [T/N: That's the confident Bisu I love]
On December 09 2011 22:22 Elefanto wrote: Bisus rivaly against Khan. I guess it's less about Khan, but more about Jangbi / Stork. They manage to make final appearances in individual leages, while he doesn't lol (of course this season will be his)
Pretty much. He still knows where the protoss competition lies, but MiNi might have something to say about that soon! ;o
On December 09 2011 22:22 Elefanto wrote: Bisus rivaly against Khan. I guess it's less about Khan, but more about Jangbi / Stork. They manage to make final appearances in individual leages, while he doesn't lol (of course this season will be his)
Pretty much. He still knows where the protoss competition lies, but MiNi might have something to say about that soon! ;o
Thanks for the translation. I love seeing Best win, and Rain brings his share of amazement too. Too bad about Fantasy, though, especially at Busan.
On December 10 2011 01:41 hacklebeast wrote: you heard it here, fuck busu, or s2, or sun. Best is the new vZ sniper.
Even before BeSt stepped up his game, SKT was particularly strong against Zerg. Now, it's absolutely crazy to send zergs against them.
On December 10 2011 00:55 MuK_x wrote: Rain was another MBCGameHero protoss talent...
Bisu in my books definitely counts as an MBC product, but if you're going to consider Rain like that, then you have to start digging into other players' rookie pasts too...like by your criteria Flash wouldn't be considered KT talent.
On December 09 2011 23:34 Invictus wrote: Rain will be destroyed for underestimating team 8 >
On December 09 2011 22:22 Elefanto wrote: Bisus rivaly against Khan. I guess it's less about Khan, but more about Jangbi / Stork. They manage to make final appearances in individual leages, while he doesn't lol (of course this season will be his)
fantasy... awww
and i agree with your comment. bisu is just pressured since he doesn't have any osl gold yet while the two Ps in khan each has their own.
Looking at the Proleague season so far, I find it hard to believe that this map pool is bad for Protoss. Remember when top P players gathered together before the season to voice their complaints about the maps being P unfavored? Yeah...
On December 10 2011 03:08 Hinanawi wrote: Looking at the Proleague season so far, I find it hard to believe that this map pool is bad for Protoss. Remember when top P players gathered together before the season to voice their complaints about the maps being P unfavored? Yeah...
Lol Protoss 0-3 Zerg yesterday =)) This is SKT Protoss (which is the strongest lineup of Protoss) vs KT Zerg (which is lolzerg line up), what results do you expect ? lol.
Look at yesterday, second strongest protoss lineup (Khan) faced second strongest zerg line up (CJ) => 0-3 for protoss. Anyways, people would believe top P players rather than you ^^.
Feel bad for Fantasy for not playing. Also, lol watch, Best rapes at PvZ but then fails at PvT. I'd find that amusing for the first instance. After that I'd just be sad.
On December 10 2011 00:05 SpeaKEaSY wrote: I'm hoping I can watch FanTaSY play some time soon It's a shame Coach Park didn't let him play in front of his family in his home town.
Also, lol @ none of the players even considering KT as their rival
I think they were expecting Flash or Mind on Sniper Ridge, so sending a Protoss there would've been foolhardy, since they both have awesome macro oriented TvP and could have abused the ridges and easy 3rd. And SKT zerg is, well.. lol against Flash and pretty much a sure loss against Mind as well. Fantasy had to play on that map.
Really happy to see Best performing well! He really does deserve it (especially after his depressing interview a few months ago :'( )
Awesome to see Bisu dominating once again. Bisu's play rides a lot on his confidence. He can dominate 2012 proleague just as hard as he dominated 2011. So happy to see him follow through! Just hope he can keep it up and place high in the OSL (2nd after JD is my hope )
Shame not to see Fantasy placed yet. Not a fan of how hes being treated. Idk what the coaches are up to. They better have been planning to place him for the fifth set agaisnt Flash. Not the biggest Fantasy fan, but I can't deny that the guy is (good double OSL finals?? Must be more than just blind luck) and he deserves better.
It doesn't seem like Fantasy is being misused to me. I am fairly certain if it went to 5th set, he would be played when the only obvious choice left for KT would be Flash. Who else would SKT send when Bisu and Best were already played? A zerg?
On December 10 2011 05:26 sGs.Kal_rA wrote: Not the biggest Fantasy fan, but I can't deny that the guy is (good double OSL finals?? Must be more than just blind luck) and he deserves better.
He actually have double double (notice the two of double ) OSL finals.
Hmmm the SKT coach could have put Fantasy in one of the first 3 match-ups so his family could see him play but I guess the coach ain't fucking around even at this stage in Proleague.
On December 10 2011 09:02 Slow Motion wrote: Hmmm the SKT coach could have put Fantasy in one of the first 3 match-ups so his family could see him play but I guess the coach ain't fucking around even at this stage in Proleague.
He wants to make sure KT doesn't get to the playoffs and beats its way to the finals again
On December 10 2011 05:26 sGs.Kal_rA wrote: Not the biggest Fantasy fan, but I can't deny that the guy is (good double OSL finals?? Must be more than just blind luck) and he deserves better.
He actually have double double (notice the two of double ) OSL finals.
lol true I was just referring to recent performance (which is what SKT coaches should base their fielding on). Otherwise bring back nada savior iloveoov and the other greats to proleague!
So why was Flash not in any of the games for the KT lineup? He played in an earlier proleague match-up and won, so presumably he's capable of playing well and at least somewhat recovered from his surgery. Why would the KT coaching staff decide NOT to send out Flash? I mean, when you have a player like Flash, it'd be retarded not to use him. Is there a reason that is totally obvious that I'm missing?
On December 10 2011 12:00 BallinWitStalin wrote: Hey, I hate to be an uninformed noob here, but I am really curious about one thing, and I couldn't find the answer anywhere else:
So why was Flash not in any of the games for the KT lineup? He played in an earlier proleague match-up and won, so presumably he's capable of playing well and at least somewhat recovered from his surgery. Why would the KT coaching staff decide NOT to send out Flash? I mean, when you have a player like Flash, it'd be retarded not to use him. Is there a reason that is totally obvious that I'm missing?
He would have been sent out set 5. It could be because flash wouldn't get nervous in the final match, or because flash just liked that map, or because KT coach wanted to snipe a player on that map, or it could have been for showmanship in front of a larger crowd to send the best player last in an important match. We don't know, but it almost certainly wasn't because they weren't going to use him.
But can't they use him twice? Or have the rules changed? I thought they could "re-send" for the Ace match a player who had previously played in one of the first four. Was I wrong?
On December 10 2011 12:06 BallinWitStalin wrote: But can't they use him twice? Or have the rules changed? I thought they could "re-send" for the Ace match a player who had previously played in one of the first four. Was I wrong?
They have changed the format. Each player must be unique in a match.
I understand why Hoejja was sent out during the 4th. But I believe Flash would have been the better choice. It gives you a pretty much guaranteed 5th set. And you want to give Flash a win. But it worked out for my SKTosses..
On December 10 2011 12:51 rslee wrote: I understand why Hoejja was sent out during the 4th. But I believe Flash would have been the better choice. It gives you a pretty much guaranteed 5th set. And you want to give Flash a win. But it worked out for my SKTosses..
The problem with that is KT doesn't have anyone that the only ones they can truly rely on in high pressure situations are Stats and Flash, neither of which can play in the final match. Either way, both players have to win their matches for KT to win. Would you rather have hoejja in the final match, with flash having won the 4th game, or flash in the final with hoejja having won the 4th?
On December 10 2011 09:02 Slow Motion wrote: Hmmm the SKT coach could have put Fantasy in one of the first 3 match-ups so his family could see him play but I guess the coach ain't fucking around even at this stage in Proleague.
Fantasy instead of soo and it would have been a 3-0.
Maybe the maps are bad for T this season? CJ vs Khan had no terrans either.
On December 10 2011 09:02 Slow Motion wrote: Hmmm the SKT coach could have put Fantasy in one of the first 3 match-ups so his family could see him play but I guess the coach ain't fucking around even at this stage in Proleague.
Fantasy instead of soo and it would have been a 3-0.
Maybe the maps are bad for T this season? CJ vs Khan had no terrans either.
I would say that that one had no Terrans because CJ doesn't feel confident w/ Leta's TvP, and that January chose to be "stylish" with a 4p lineup (which was a mistake imo). KT vs SKT had no Terrans because Mind is probably slumping, and Flash vs Fantasy didn't get to happen.
The only map that seems "bad" for Terran is Outlier, which I hope they keep and attempt to rebalance it.
On December 10 2011 12:51 rslee wrote: I understand why Hoejja was sent out during the 4th. But I believe Flash would have been the better choice. It gives you a pretty much guaranteed 5th set. And you want to give Flash a win. But it worked out for my SKTosses..
The problem with that is KT doesn't have anyone that the only ones they can truly rely on in high pressure situations are Stats and Flash, neither of which can play in the final match. Either way, both players have to win their matches for KT to win. Would you rather have hoejja in the final match, with flash having won the 4th game, or flash in the final with hoejja having won the 4th?
Pressure is pressure no matter what set it is. It was all on Hoejja during the 4th set as well. In regards to your question, I would have rather had a definite 5th set and a possible win rather than a possible 5th set and semi-definite win. But then again, I've never coached a single player sport, only team sports..
On December 10 2011 09:02 Slow Motion wrote: Hmmm the SKT coach could have put Fantasy in one of the first 3 match-ups so his family could see him play but I guess the coach ain't fucking around even at this stage in Proleague.
Fantasy instead of soo and it would have been a 3-0.
Maybe the maps are bad for T this season? CJ vs Khan had no terrans either.
I would say that that one had no Terrans because CJ doesn't feel confident w/ Leta's TvP, and that January chose to be "stylish" with a 4p lineup (which was a mistake imo). KT vs SKT had no Terrans because Mind is probably slumping, and Flash vs Fantasy didn't get to happen.
The only map that seems "bad" for Terran is Outlier, which I hope they keep and attempt to rebalance it.
I always thought siege tanks being dropped on the high grounds in the middle of outlier would have been a useful tactic. You would keep the minerals there so that ground units can't walk up the ramp.. But I'm a D-/Low D Protoss so what do I know haha
On December 10 2011 09:02 Slow Motion wrote: Hmmm the SKT coach could have put Fantasy in one of the first 3 match-ups so his family could see him play but I guess the coach ain't fucking around even at this stage in Proleague.
Fantasy instead of soo and it would have been a 3-0.
Maybe the maps are bad for T this season? CJ vs Khan had no terrans either.
I would say that that one had no Terrans because CJ doesn't feel confident w/ Leta's TvP, and that January chose to be "stylish" with a 4p lineup (which was a mistake imo). KT vs SKT had no Terrans because Mind is probably slumping, and Flash vs Fantasy didn't get to happen.
The only map that seems "bad" for Terran is Outlier, which I hope they keep and attempt to rebalance it.
I always thought siege tanks being dropped on the high grounds in the middle of outlier would have been a useful tactic. You would keep the minerals there so that ground units can't walk up the ramp.. But I'm a D-/Low D Protoss so what do I know haha
That's what I thought too, along with the super cramped center, but I get the feeling that the outer pathways actually probably ends up breaking TvP on that map. TvZ doesn't look that bad on the map though
On December 11 2011 03:28 konadora wrote: bisu really wants esports to be more mainstream-sports
<3
Sure, they all want esport to be more international or "mainstream". CJ told that yesterday to. That scares me that sooner or later they will play sc2 (
Hopefully we get to see Fantasy play next time! It's time for him to appear!
I'm happy for Rain. He appears to be carrying on from where he left off last season, and if he's a practice nut then he's got the attitude to continue to do well.
Don't know what to think about BeSt and his PvZ. It just doesn't feel right
On December 10 2011 17:07 pinkranger15 wrote: SKT owning the arrogant KT. :3
TBH we were arogant here, unlike before last Winner League final, when KT arogance grow to hilarious proportions.
To be fair, Flash was basically curbstomping everybody left and right then. I don't think anyone seriously expected SKT to be able to take KT down in the WL format, especially not after we got our clocks cleaned by, of all people in the world, Stats.
I want to see my favourite Terran play some games! SKT1 is 2-0 without any Terrans. CJ is 3-0 having only played a Terran once. You can be a super star team without any T this season. If you take a look at all 8 teams, I don't think any would classify as a Terran team like WeMade was. Team 8 is actually closest, with Baby and Sea being #2 and #3 on the team. No other team really has 2 Terrans in the top 3.
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Bisu - Oddly, the three members that got wins during the last match got the wins during this match. It's surprising. It's a weird feeling. Feels like since the map order was the same and the opponent teams' colours were the same, we couldn't help but win. We felt as the match in Busan was really important so we practiced extra hard and so it feels good to have good results. 
Flash?
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