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max_power
Profile Joined April 2005
Slovakia163 Posts
June 08 2005 01:04 GMT
#181
On June 06 2005 09:58 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2005 09:49 NonY wrote:
the game had a lot of playing to be done. in my opinion the next minutes of the game would've happened as follows - testie kills the hydras outside of his base, and if his army could move fast as vultures, he could go win the game or do enough damage to make an obvious advantage. however since his army would move too slowly to do that, breakdown would make some sunkens and with lurker aspect be able to defend. then testie would have map control, breakdown would have 1 more expansion, and testie would have to expand, contain, and wait for observers (his robotics wasnt started) a big thing is that breakdown didnt even have evolution chambers put down which was gonna kill him in the late game he was getting himself into. i dont understand what he was going for.. upgrades after 3rd base, or keep expanding without upgrades? surely he didnt expect to break testie's choke. it didnt seem to me to be going anywhere unless his contain was unbreakable but his lurkers were coming too late

as a protoss player i'd feel relatively comfortable if the next few minutes went as i described (and those actions arent incredibly hard to do and apparently testie was planning on doing it) but the game had a bit of playing to do and i think it warrants a rematch if you dont punish breakdown for his disconnection. since there is a chance that breakdown did it purposely (which i have no reason to believe) then it becomes unfair to testie to have a regame.. but i still think a regame is the best solution
there is no way testie would've killed the hydras outside his base before breakdown got lurkers..just before breakdown disced testie lost most of his army and he was badly outnumbered afterwards..was something like 5-8~zeals+some temps and 4 gates producing while breakdown had about 2 groups of hydras iirc...

edit: my memory was a bit off :p apparently testie had 6 gates+2more building..and testie had 6zealots+5templars


lol man stop posting about things you dont know anything.

Testie could definetely break out of that "contain"

not for you matrix:

wtf about that lurkers? WHAT FUCKING LURKERS???? HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE ASPECT!!!
[pG]Archi
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany354 Posts
June 08 2005 01:09 GMT
#182
On June 08 2005 07:38 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2005 13:50 Shiv wrote:
On June 07 2005 11:25 ManaBlue wrote:
" # 47 [Canada] Nal_Testie @ 2005-06-07 20:09:59
I am going to crush this mother fucker. I will play. And i'm going to crush this mother fucker. --;"

So breakdown, are you going to forfeit?

Look: breakdown disced. Now it is clear that nobody was really at advantage. Therefore as that other guy said earlier, in those conditions, there should have been a re-game.

But Testie forfeited.
He bitched about how he had the game won. He flamed Breakdown and refused to have a re-match.

Hence Breakdown isn't going to forfeit or anything because Testie has already forfeited. Breakdown could have agreed on a rematch when Testie changed his mind. It would have been "fairplay". But fairplay comes along with good manners. That quote of yours says it all.


According to the KOTH rules a player can petition for default win when his opponent disconnects. Breakdown disced. Testie petitioned. They have now made a decision and the new series can be played.

Testie did not at any time forfeit. Get your head out of your ass and stop posting your opinions as fact.


How can breakdown disc, when he and 3 other observer were in the channel right after the game, without leaving bnet ?
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
June 08 2005 01:18 GMT
#183
On June 08 2005 10:04 max_power wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2005 09:58 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
On June 06 2005 09:49 NonY wrote:
the game had a lot of playing to be done. in my opinion the next minutes of the game would've happened as follows - testie kills the hydras outside of his base, and if his army could move fast as vultures, he could go win the game or do enough damage to make an obvious advantage. however since his army would move too slowly to do that, breakdown would make some sunkens and with lurker aspect be able to defend. then testie would have map control, breakdown would have 1 more expansion, and testie would have to expand, contain, and wait for observers (his robotics wasnt started) a big thing is that breakdown didnt even have evolution chambers put down which was gonna kill him in the late game he was getting himself into. i dont understand what he was going for.. upgrades after 3rd base, or keep expanding without upgrades? surely he didnt expect to break testie's choke. it didnt seem to me to be going anywhere unless his contain was unbreakable but his lurkers were coming too late

as a protoss player i'd feel relatively comfortable if the next few minutes went as i described (and those actions arent incredibly hard to do and apparently testie was planning on doing it) but the game had a bit of playing to do and i think it warrants a rematch if you dont punish breakdown for his disconnection. since there is a chance that breakdown did it purposely (which i have no reason to believe) then it becomes unfair to testie to have a regame.. but i still think a regame is the best solution
there is no way testie would've killed the hydras outside his base before breakdown got lurkers..just before breakdown disced testie lost most of his army and he was badly outnumbered afterwards..was something like 5-8~zeals+some temps and 4 gates producing while breakdown had about 2 groups of hydras iirc...

edit: my memory was a bit off :p apparently testie had 6 gates+2more building..and testie had 6zealots+5templars


lol man stop posting about things you dont know anything.

Testie could definetely break out of that "contain"

not for you matrix:

wtf about that lurkers? WHAT FUCKING LURKERS???? HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE ASPECT!!!
didnt they ban this moron?
aka StormtoSS
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 08 2005 01:30 GMT
#184
On June 08 2005 10:09 [pG]Archi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2005 07:38 ManaBlue wrote:
On June 07 2005 13:50 Shiv wrote:
On June 07 2005 11:25 ManaBlue wrote:
" # 47 [Canada] Nal_Testie @ 2005-06-07 20:09:59
I am going to crush this mother fucker. I will play. And i'm going to crush this mother fucker. --;"

So breakdown, are you going to forfeit?

Look: breakdown disced. Now it is clear that nobody was really at advantage. Therefore as that other guy said earlier, in those conditions, there should have been a re-game.

But Testie forfeited.
He bitched about how he had the game won. He flamed Breakdown and refused to have a re-match.

Hence Breakdown isn't going to forfeit or anything because Testie has already forfeited. Breakdown could have agreed on a rematch when Testie changed his mind. It would have been "fairplay". But fairplay comes along with good manners. That quote of yours says it all.


According to the KOTH rules a player can petition for default win when his opponent disconnects. Breakdown disced. Testie petitioned. They have now made a decision and the new series can be played.

Testie did not at any time forfeit. Get your head out of your ass and stop posting your opinions as fact.


How can breakdown disc, when he and 3 other observer were in the channel right after the game, without leaving bnet ?


Archi, stop playing symantics. Breakdown left the game. Whether he dropped, or had a game error, or connection problem or WHATEVER, he fucking left the game. Testie didn't and therefore the technical error is the fault of Breakdown.

The point is, a whole bunch of shit happened, and at the end of the day Testie is willing to regame to correct the problem. If Breakdown decides to be a pussy and not play then he deserves to lose. Case closed. I'd say the same thing in favour of Breakdown if Testie was the one refusing and Breakdown was willing to play.

Do you honestly think that giving Breakdown the win in a game that HE fucked up technically is justified? You must be kidding.
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[pG]Archi
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany354 Posts
June 08 2005 01:41 GMT
#185
On June 08 2005 10:30 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2005 10:09 [pG]Archi wrote:
On June 08 2005 07:38 ManaBlue wrote:
On June 07 2005 13:50 Shiv wrote:
On June 07 2005 11:25 ManaBlue wrote:
" # 47 [Canada] Nal_Testie @ 2005-06-07 20:09:59
I am going to crush this mother fucker. I will play. And i'm going to crush this mother fucker. --;"

So breakdown, are you going to forfeit?

Look: breakdown disced. Now it is clear that nobody was really at advantage. Therefore as that other guy said earlier, in those conditions, there should have been a re-game.

But Testie forfeited.
He bitched about how he had the game won. He flamed Breakdown and refused to have a re-match.

Hence Breakdown isn't going to forfeit or anything because Testie has already forfeited. Breakdown could have agreed on a rematch when Testie changed his mind. It would have been "fairplay". But fairplay comes along with good manners. That quote of yours says it all.


According to the KOTH rules a player can petition for default win when his opponent disconnects. Breakdown disced. Testie petitioned. They have now made a decision and the new series can be played.

Testie did not at any time forfeit. Get your head out of your ass and stop posting your opinions as fact.


How can breakdown disc, when he and 3 other observer were in the channel right after the game, without leaving bnet ?


Archi, stop playing symantics. Breakdown left the game. Whether he dropped, or had a game error, or connection problem or WHATEVER, he fucking left the game. Testie didn't and therefore the technical error is the fault of Breakdown.

The point is, a whole bunch of shit happened, and at the end of the day Testie is willing to regame to correct the problem. If Breakdown decides to be a pussy and not play then he deserves to lose. Case closed. I'd say the same thing in favour of Breakdown if Testie was the one refusing and Breakdown was willing to play.

Do you honestly think that giving Breakdown the win in a game that HE fucked up technically is justified? You must be kidding.


I agree that there has to be a regame. Breakdown thought the same after the game and told so. But Testie was the pussy , who didnt want to accept a regame. He acted bm and flamed.
max_power
Profile Joined April 2005
Slovakia163 Posts
June 08 2005 02:12 GMT
#186
On June 08 2005 10:18 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2005 10:04 max_power wrote:
On June 06 2005 09:58 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
On June 06 2005 09:49 NonY wrote:
the game had a lot of playing to be done. in my opinion the next minutes of the game would've happened as follows - testie kills the hydras outside of his base, and if his army could move fast as vultures, he could go win the game or do enough damage to make an obvious advantage. however since his army would move too slowly to do that, breakdown would make some sunkens and with lurker aspect be able to defend. then testie would have map control, breakdown would have 1 more expansion, and testie would have to expand, contain, and wait for observers (his robotics wasnt started) a big thing is that breakdown didnt even have evolution chambers put down which was gonna kill him in the late game he was getting himself into. i dont understand what he was going for.. upgrades after 3rd base, or keep expanding without upgrades? surely he didnt expect to break testie's choke. it didnt seem to me to be going anywhere unless his contain was unbreakable but his lurkers were coming too late

as a protoss player i'd feel relatively comfortable if the next few minutes went as i described (and those actions arent incredibly hard to do and apparently testie was planning on doing it) but the game had a bit of playing to do and i think it warrants a rematch if you dont punish breakdown for his disconnection. since there is a chance that breakdown did it purposely (which i have no reason to believe) then it becomes unfair to testie to have a regame.. but i still think a regame is the best solution
there is no way testie would've killed the hydras outside his base before breakdown got lurkers..just before breakdown disced testie lost most of his army and he was badly outnumbered afterwards..was something like 5-8~zeals+some temps and 4 gates producing while breakdown had about 2 groups of hydras iirc...

edit: my memory was a bit off :p apparently testie had 6 gates+2more building..and testie had 6zealots+5templars


lol man stop posting about things you dont know anything.

Testie could definetely break out of that "contain"

not for you matrix:

wtf about that lurkers? WHAT FUCKING LURKERS???? HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE ASPECT!!!
didnt they ban this moron?


Dude,you are so pathetic. You ARE a newb I think I showed you when we played. Moron.
NeverEndingStory
Profile Joined February 2005
446 Posts
June 08 2005 02:24 GMT
#187
I think Testie had very good idea to regame with the exact same manner(same BO,strategy,timings).It would be fair for both players but since Breakdown is not willing to play he should lose.He disced Testie did not if Testie disced and did not want to play I would say exact same thing.
Playing pokah
GaR
Profile Joined June 2005
United States48 Posts
June 08 2005 02:58 GMT
#188
On June 08 2005 11:24 NeverEndingStory wrote:
I think Testie had very good idea to regame with the exact same manner(same BO,strategy,timings).It would be fair for both players but since Breakdown is not willing to play he should lose.He disced Testie did not if Testie disced and did not want to play I would say exact same thing.


No that would be stupid. Best option is a BO3 on SAME MAP.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
June 08 2005 03:16 GMT
#189
geez, stop quoting half a book.
and the exact same game is not possible neverendingstory. even if you recreate the units, building placements etc, you can't recreate the half done upgrades, also it would spoil the unknown factor.
-PhiL-
Profile Joined March 2005
362 Posts
June 08 2005 04:08 GMT
#190
On June 08 2005 12:16 cYaN wrote:
geez, stop quoting half a book.
and the exact same game is not possible neverendingstory. even if you recreate the units, building placements etc, you can't recreate the half done upgrades, also it would spoil the unknown factor.


and the uknown factor is the most imporant thing in this game.. if testie stays in his base for additional units he loses the game , pretty sure and if testie starts another fast attack he wins the game pretty much..

so this idea is ridicolous ..

i think testie acted bm first, not accepting a regame and i know breakdown as very very good manner and dont u find it strange, that in what tournament ever, if there is a problem, testie's involved in it ? Testie vs ret .. testie vs break .. ect..

come one.. pure coincidence, for sure.. poor testie.. hes always were the trouble's , too..

bo3 .. plz.. hopefully break accepts it.. and i dont know why testie says shit like '' gogo bo3 ill own that motherfucker''.. wtf did break do, after all ?

and ManaBlue you are the biggest... ive ever met. Is there anything else in your life, than supporting testie on every single page ? I see u on pgt,wgt, EVERYWHERE defending testie..
lamer.. t_T


OhNoKickedAgain
Profile Joined April 2005
Czech Republic232 Posts
June 08 2005 04:20 GMT
#191
On June 08 2005 10:18 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2005 10:04 max_power wrote:
On June 06 2005 09:58 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
On June 06 2005 09:49 NonY wrote:
the game had a lot of playing to be done. in my opinion the next minutes of the game would've happened as follows - testie kills the hydras outside of his base, and if his army could move fast as vultures, he could go win the game or do enough damage to make an obvious advantage. however since his army would move too slowly to do that, breakdown would make some sunkens and with lurker aspect be able to defend. then testie would have map control, breakdown would have 1 more expansion, and testie would have to expand, contain, and wait for observers (his robotics wasnt started) a big thing is that breakdown didnt even have evolution chambers put down which was gonna kill him in the late game he was getting himself into. i dont understand what he was going for.. upgrades after 3rd base, or keep expanding without upgrades? surely he didnt expect to break testie's choke. it didnt seem to me to be going anywhere unless his contain was unbreakable but his lurkers were coming too late

as a protoss player i'd feel relatively comfortable if the next few minutes went as i described (and those actions arent incredibly hard to do and apparently testie was planning on doing it) but the game had a bit of playing to do and i think it warrants a rematch if you dont punish breakdown for his disconnection. since there is a chance that breakdown did it purposely (which i have no reason to believe) then it becomes unfair to testie to have a regame.. but i still think a regame is the best solution
there is no way testie would've killed the hydras outside his base before breakdown got lurkers..just before breakdown disced testie lost most of his army and he was badly outnumbered afterwards..was something like 5-8~zeals+some temps and 4 gates producing while breakdown had about 2 groups of hydras iirc...

edit: my memory was a bit off :p apparently testie had 6 gates+2more building..and testie had 6zealots+5templars


lol man stop posting about things you dont know anything.

Testie could definetely break out of that "contain"

not for you matrix:

wtf about that lurkers? WHAT FUCKING LURKERS???? HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE ASPECT!!!
didnt they ban this moron?


mind your own bussines idiot.
#1 bio.dante fan [bio.dante was kicked without any purpose so WTF?]
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 08 2005 05:08 GMT
#192
No im pretty sure hes right, if this guy is here to reduce the quality of tl.net conversation his stay will be short. And who the hell are you to say "mind your own business" in a public forum? Thats... probably the biggest irony i will come across today >_<
OhNoKickedAgain
Profile Joined April 2005
Czech Republic232 Posts
June 08 2005 05:35 GMT
#193
On June 08 2005 14:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
No im pretty sure hes right, if this guy is here to reduce the quality of tl.net conversation his stay will be short. And who the hell are you to say "mind your own business" in a public forum? Thats... probably the biggest irony i will come across today >_<


better explanation " let another live and dont harass some1 with some Ban stuff"
#1 bio.dante fan [bio.dante was kicked without any purpose so WTF?]
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 08 2005 05:55 GMT
#194
On June 08 2005 13:08 -PhiL- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2005 12:16 cYaN wrote:
geez, stop quoting half a book.
and the exact same game is not possible neverendingstory. even if you recreate the units, building placements etc, you can't recreate the half done upgrades, also it would spoil the unknown factor.


and the uknown factor is the most imporant thing in this game.. if testie stays in his base for additional units he loses the game , pretty sure and if testie starts another fast attack he wins the game pretty much..

so this idea is ridicolous ..

i think testie acted bm first, not accepting a regame and i know breakdown as very very good manner and dont u find it strange, that in what tournament ever, if there is a problem, testie's involved in it ? Testie vs ret .. testie vs break .. ect..

come one.. pure coincidence, for sure.. poor testie.. hes always were the trouble's , too..

bo3 .. plz.. hopefully break accepts it.. and i dont know why testie says shit like '' gogo bo3 ill own that motherfucker''.. wtf did break do, after all ?

and ManaBlue you are the biggest... ive ever met. Is there anything else in your life, than supporting testie on every single page ? I see u on pgt,wgt, EVERYWHERE defending testie..
lamer.. t_T




I'm a "..."? I don't know exactly how to react to that other than to say that I defend Testie where he deserves defending, just like any other person that stirs debate. You didn't see me defending his actions in the TANL vs ret did you? No. In fact I was one of the most outspoken about how disappointed I was in his behaviour.

The point I'm getting at Phil, is that I refuse to be a bandwagon jumping pussy like many around here who blindly agree with every admin comment due to their fear of causing friction or "being banned"...or whatever...Most here at TLnet don't like Testie. I get it.

The people who run this site are very outspoken with their opinions as well and they have never stopped my from stating mine. That's why I love it here. You don't need to lick Rek's shlong everytime he says something for godsakes...he doesn't need an ego boost, he's just fine.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that I'm an outspoken jerk. Testie is an entertaining jerk. I identify with his personality and find that people overreact to the majority of what he does. I'm not the only one. Zia has said things similar to this on a number of occasions.

Does that make me a Testie fanboy? I'm as outspoken in any other type of thread as I am in a Testie related one. Just because I don't cry like a bitch everytime he calls someone a noob doesn't make me "his supporter". I treat each incident individually, like with anyone/thing else.

So say what you want. I've been called far worse, trust me.

Also, to say you see me "defending him everywhere" is a great exageration. I've never posted at PGT before, maybe once and not about Nick, so I don't know where you got that. And on WGT only during the TLT tourny because I followed it. I posted a ton of shit about other players, games, things...did you notice that? And as far as here, you might notice me a lot more than other posters because I'm one of few that doesn't spurt "lol testie bm fag lolrofl" like a gas sniffing retard.

Oh, and for the record, I used the word "outspoken" 4 times in this post, though it seems much more redundant than that while read it...
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hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
June 08 2005 06:21 GMT
#195
On June 08 2005 10:18 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2005 10:04 max_power wrote:
On June 06 2005 09:58 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:
On June 06 2005 09:49 NonY wrote:
the game had a lot of playing to be done. in my opinion the next minutes of the game would've happened as follows - testie kills the hydras outside of his base, and if his army could move fast as vultures, he could go win the game or do enough damage to make an obvious advantage. however since his army would move too slowly to do that, breakdown would make some sunkens and with lurker aspect be able to defend. then testie would have map control, breakdown would have 1 more expansion, and testie would have to expand, contain, and wait for observers (his robotics wasnt started) a big thing is that breakdown didnt even have evolution chambers put down which was gonna kill him in the late game he was getting himself into. i dont understand what he was going for.. upgrades after 3rd base, or keep expanding without upgrades? surely he didnt expect to break testie's choke. it didnt seem to me to be going anywhere unless his contain was unbreakable but his lurkers were coming too late

as a protoss player i'd feel relatively comfortable if the next few minutes went as i described (and those actions arent incredibly hard to do and apparently testie was planning on doing it) but the game had a bit of playing to do and i think it warrants a rematch if you dont punish breakdown for his disconnection. since there is a chance that breakdown did it purposely (which i have no reason to believe) then it becomes unfair to testie to have a regame.. but i still think a regame is the best solution
there is no way testie would've killed the hydras outside his base before breakdown got lurkers..just before breakdown disced testie lost most of his army and he was badly outnumbered afterwards..was something like 5-8~zeals+some temps and 4 gates producing while breakdown had about 2 groups of hydras iirc...

edit: my memory was a bit off :p apparently testie had 6 gates+2more building..and testie had 6zealots+5templars


lol man stop posting about things you dont know anything.

Testie could definetely break out of that "contain"

not for you matrix:

wtf about that lurkers? WHAT FUCKING LURKERS???? HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE ASPECT!!!
didnt they ban this moron?


hi pvz newbie, wat sup ?
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
June 08 2005 09:16 GMT
#196
On June 08 2005 14:35 OhNoKickedAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2005 14:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
No im pretty sure hes right, if this guy is here to reduce the quality of tl.net conversation his stay will be short. And who the hell are you to say "mind your own business" in a public forum? Thats... probably the biggest irony i will come across today >_<


better explanation " let another live and dont harass some1 with some Ban stuff"


Why? Because you don't want the subject of re-banning users to come up since you were banned before?
heavy hand upon the land, feel it's weight inside you
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 08 2005 09:17 GMT
#197
On June 08 2005 18:16 RiSE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2005 14:35 OhNoKickedAgain wrote:
On June 08 2005 14:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
No im pretty sure hes right, if this guy is here to reduce the quality of tl.net conversation his stay will be short. And who the hell are you to say "mind your own business" in a public forum? Thats... probably the biggest irony i will come across today >_<


better explanation " let another live and dont harass some1 with some Ban stuff"


Why? Because you don't want the subject of re-banning users to come up since you were banned before?


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