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Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-06 22:00:52
June 06 2005 21:45 GMT
#141
Edit: n/m
Memory lane in nice
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-06 21:46:42
June 06 2005 21:46 GMT
#142
just watched replay:

testie had a 58.59% - 41.41% advantage.

he is right his economy was much stronger, and breakdown was right contain would be very very very hard to break.... but the reason i say he was winning is because he had so many templars and breakdown had no spire.

by the time he got his observers and made an attempt to breakout of breakdowns contain he would have had around 15 storms....some range goons and good storm micro while dropping zealots above and very sure testie would have busted out with not much effort

BUT if testie fucked up his micro to a medium-level fuck up breakdown could have won...a low level fuck up in micro and im sure testie still would have win



all that being said testie is a queerbag and should have regamed anyways, he has no balls

edit: phil did i scare you?
why so 진지해?
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
June 06 2005 21:53 GMT
#143
gg.net is down :/
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
June 06 2005 22:00 GMT
#144
On June 07 2005 06:53 bine wrote:
gg.net is down :/


oh shit sorry i was thinking of the other thing (that thing where sync played Pj etc). Cant' even remember IT'S name now...

n/m, thx
Memory lane in nice
-PhiL-
Profile Joined March 2005
362 Posts
June 06 2005 22:01 GMT
#145
On June 07 2005 06:46 Rekrul wrote:
just watched replay:

testie had a 58.59% - 41.41% advantage.

he is right his economy was much stronger, and breakdown was right contain would be very very very hard to break.... but the reason i say he was winning is because he had so many templars and breakdown had no spire.

by the time he got his observers and made an attempt to breakout of breakdowns contain he would have had around 15 storms....some range goons and good storm micro while dropping zealots above and very sure testie would have busted out with not much effort

BUT if testie fucked up his micro to a medium-level fuck up breakdown could have won...a low level fuck up in micro and im sure testie still would have win



all that being said testie is a queerbag and should have regamed anyways, he has no balls

edit: phil did i scare you?


I hate getting scared.. ;P

But imo it was all about one question in the end : would have testie moved out early enough, before the lurkers would have been ready. So if the game would be ''regamed'' at exactly the ending of the replay and testie and breakdown watched it, for sure testie would have won, because then he would move out 100%. But in the game he doesnt know if its good for him to try another fast attack or to wait for much more support.. And im pretty sure, that if testie went on a fast attack he wins and if he waits only for a short time, he would have lost the game..

So i would say its mor like 50/50 than anything else..
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 06 2005 22:05 GMT
#146
even if he waited he still could have raped breakdown with decent micro, which was my point

way to not refute it
why so 진지해?
-PhiL-
Profile Joined March 2005
362 Posts
June 06 2005 22:19 GMT
#147
On June 07 2005 06:46 Rekrul wrote:
just watched replay:

testie had a 58.59% - 41.41%

edit: phil did i scare you?


yes, cause i think u play and watch too much poker..
these procentages are pretty scary ehehe -_-v
Josh124
Profile Joined August 2003
United Kingdom144 Posts
June 06 2005 22:26 GMT
#148
On June 07 2005 07:00 Resonate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2005 06:53 bine wrote:
gg.net is down :/


oh shit sorry i was thinking of the other thing (that thing where sync played Pj etc). Cant' even remember IT'S name now...

n/m, thx


I think you want f2f:

http://www.f2fbw.com/

IcedEarth
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States3661 Posts
June 06 2005 22:34 GMT
#149
Jee jee dot net.

I bet they're redoing their background to promote their new "ToT)Testie(rS vs BrEaKdOwN[pG] Grudge Match 2005" t-shirts.
Guardian guardian guardian of the blind
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
June 06 2005 22:40 GMT
#150
On June 07 2005 07:26 Darth124 wrote:

I think you want f2f:

http://www.f2fbw.com/

yeah that was it, Face-To-Face

thx
Memory lane in nice
MarcX
Profile Joined February 2005
Netherlands772 Posts
June 06 2005 23:15 GMT
#151
On June 07 2005 07:34 IcedEarth wrote:
Jee jee dot net.

I bet they're redoing their background to promote their new "ToT)Testie(rS vs BrEaKdOwN[pG] Grudge Match 2005" t-shirts.

You don't have to take the server down for that. The webmasters at gg.net should know what they're doing. Probably problems @ host.
«A fool and his freedom are soon parted» ~ Richard Stallman, Founder FSF
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
June 06 2005 23:31 GMT
#152
On June 07 2005 08:15 MarcX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2005 07:34 IcedEarth wrote:
Jee jee dot net.

I bet they're redoing their background to promote their new "ToT)Testie(rS vs BrEaKdOwN[pG] Grudge Match 2005" t-shirts.

You don't have to take the server down for that. The webmasters at gg.net should know what they're doing. Probably problems @ host.


Gogo sarcasm?
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 07 2005 00:29 GMT
#153
Nick has said he will refuse >_< Interesting to see what Nick / Chris do from here.
GosuAmerican
Profile Joined February 2005
United States347 Posts
June 07 2005 00:36 GMT
#154
yes i think they should regame and stop being dumb asses.
Nothing Succeeds Like Success. #1 [ReD]Nada Fan. GL Pat. Live PGT
NonYold
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
June 07 2005 00:39 GMT
#155
ah after i've thought about it more i prefer that neither of them win. i hope they both refuse and 2 fresh players are put in for the next KOTH
TvP On Guillo
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark646 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-07 00:53:51
June 07 2005 00:52 GMT
#156
I think it's quite pointless to discuss who was winning. We all know how a game can turn in the complete opposit direction, within few minutes or even seconds. This is irrelevant though. Neither does it matter if he disconnected on purpose, it's the equivalent of leaving the football field during a football game. If a player disconnects, the only sensible thing would be to award that person a loss. Its not exactly practical to have go through this "what if" scenario, each time a player disconnects.

The games are supposed to be played until a player concedes - why even play the game if it's all decided beforehand, or in this case midgame. I'm sure the other person would have played in a different way if he knew that his opponent would disconnect, thus it would be unfair to demand a regame of him.

Disconnecting shouldn't be a viable strategy. It's too much hassle finding out whether the disconnect was intentional or not.
Deeply earnest and thoughtful people stand on shaky footing with the public - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-07 01:01:17
June 07 2005 00:59 GMT
#157
On June 07 2005 09:39 NonY wrote:
ah after i've thought about it more i prefer that neither of them win. i hope they both refuse and 2 fresh players are put in for the next KOTH

I suggest me vs randomc5player.
Anyhow, it would be cool to use this to promote some lesser-known good gamer

Maybe you vs hmmm.. Some Zerg !
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2983 Posts
June 07 2005 01:42 GMT
#158
On June 07 2005 07:34 IcedEarth wrote:
Jee jee dot net.

I bet they're redoing their background to promote their new "ToT)Testie(rS vs BrEaKdOwN[pG] Grudge Match 2005" t-shirts.


ROFL, I want one p:p
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
June 07 2005 01:49 GMT
#159
On June 07 2005 09:29 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Nick has said he will refuse >_< Interesting to see what Nick / Chris do from here.

Then it'll be good to avoid the Testie drama in the future, I suppose.
[pG]BrEaKdOwN
Profile Joined January 2005
Germany141 Posts
June 07 2005 02:03 GMT
#160
rekrul your wrong. he fuckin cannot break out this small entrance its impossible.and his robo was 1% when he left the game, i could build spire just in time so what ?i contained him, kicked his eco advantage by raping his weak microed army. he would be contained in 30sec-1min and would have no way to break out. but i dont care about this game. i care about his behaviour which is unacceptable to me. i wont regame such a bm person.
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