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On October 20 2011 12:39 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:32 strongandbig wrote:
My big worry is that if this happens, kespa's rules and structure could further segregate korean versus western starcraft 2, and then starcraft 2 could die outside of korea like broodwar did. SC2 outside korea is way too established to be affected by kespa's ruling (if it happens anyway)
It would be more likely to kill SC2 in Korea than out. One of the big draws for SC2 in Korea that BW doesn't have is that foreign players can and often do take games off Koreans, so Korea is only slightly better than everyone else. Banning Idra and Huk and Stephano and Thorzain, all foreigners who've won tournaments with Koreans in them, would hurt the legitimacy of KeSPA SC2.
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On October 20 2011 12:44 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:39 konadora wrote:On October 20 2011 12:32 strongandbig wrote:
My big worry is that if this happens, kespa's rules and structure could further segregate korean versus western starcraft 2, and then starcraft 2 could die outside of korea like broodwar did. SC2 outside korea is way too established to be affected by kespa's ruling (if it happens anyway) I think he means having korean competition in the foreign scene. Eventually if the skill levels become too different I don't think people will watch non koreans or non korean trained players play.
There is enough money in the foreign scene that some korean will joining foreign teams if kespa prevent them from competing outside of korea.
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One question to consider is how the advent of progaming licenses would affect the korean sc2 scene. Foreigners would no longer be able to say, win a code A spot via MLG and come over and compete--they'd have to acquire a progaming license first. And if KeSPA adopts a similar policy with sc2 as with BW, progaming licenses will become VERY difficult to acquire.
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On October 20 2011 12:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
ugh
Care to elaborate? Maybe next time stay away from the prawn cocktail.
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In the negotiations w/ Kespa, I'm sure Blizzard will make some contractual agreements that prevent Kespa from attempting to monopolize blizzard's product in s. korea.
I don't really understand why kespa would want foreign/korean segregation anyways.... more international attention could lead to larger international sponsors. Doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not very familiar with the situation.
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On October 20 2011 12:56 xxpack09 wrote:
One question to consider is how the advent of progaming licenses would affect the korean sc2 scene. Foreigners would no longer be able to say, win a code A spot via MLG and come over and compete--they'd have to acquire a progaming license first. And if KeSPA adopts a similar policy with sc2 as with BW, progaming licenses will become VERY difficult to acquire.
Haha, that's no problem for non-Koreans, we'll just stick to our MLG's, IPL's, Dreamhacks, NASL's... and our players will do just fine. This isn't BW anymore; KeSPA can't just twist our arm.
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On October 20 2011 13:01 Galaxy613 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:56 xxpack09 wrote:
One question to consider is how the advent of progaming licenses would affect the korean sc2 scene. Foreigners would no longer be able to say, win a code A spot via MLG and come over and compete--they'd have to acquire a progaming license first. And if KeSPA adopts a similar policy with sc2 as with BW, progaming licenses will become VERY difficult to acquire. Haha, that's no problem for non-Koreans, we'll just stick to our MLG's, IPL's, Dreamhacks, NASL's... and our players will do just fine. This isn't BW anymore; KeSPA can't just twist our arm.
lol, you do realize that 80% of good MLG, NASL etc. is made of Korean players who will flock back to Korea and get progaming licenses (except for maybe Hero).
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On October 20 2011 12:57 Probulous wrote:Care to elaborate? Maybe next time stay away from the prawn cocktail.
'ugh' as in bobba this
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On October 20 2011 13:01 Galaxy613 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:56 xxpack09 wrote:
One question to consider is how the advent of progaming licenses would affect the korean sc2 scene. Foreigners would no longer be able to say, win a code A spot via MLG and come over and compete--they'd have to acquire a progaming license first. And if KeSPA adopts a similar policy with sc2 as with BW, progaming licenses will become VERY difficult to acquire. Haha, that's no problem for non-Koreans, we'll just stick to our MLG's, IPL's, Dreamhacks, NASL's... and our players will do just fine. This isn't BW anymore; KeSPA can't just twist our arm.
That just creates a huge fragment in the growing global ESPORTS community though--which is still worrisome.
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On October 20 2011 13:01 Galaxy613 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:56 xxpack09 wrote:
One question to consider is how the advent of progaming licenses would affect the korean sc2 scene. Foreigners would no longer be able to say, win a code A spot via MLG and come over and compete--they'd have to acquire a progaming license first. And if KeSPA adopts a similar policy with sc2 as with BW, progaming licenses will become VERY difficult to acquire. Haha, that's no problem for non-Koreans, we'll just stick to our MLG's, IPL's, Dreamhacks, NASL's... and our players will do just fine. This isn't BW anymore; KeSPA can't just twist our arm.
Even if you have leagues outside of Korea, once the play level gets significantly lower, people will lose interest aside from diehard fans of foreign SC2, similar to the BW situation.
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On October 20 2011 13:13 Legatus Lanius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:57 Probulous wrote:On October 20 2011 12:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
ugh Care to elaborate? Maybe next time stay away from the prawn cocktail. 'ugh' as in bobba this
Habbo?
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BW_Jaedong
BW_Flash
BW_Fantasy
BW_Bisu
BW_Hydra
BW_JangBi
BW_Stork
BW_sAviOr
BW_YellOw
BW_Reach
BW_Grrr
The new BW-SC2 team.
You wait.
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On October 20 2011 13:23 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 13:13 Legatus Lanius wrote:On October 20 2011 12:57 Probulous wrote:On October 20 2011 12:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
ugh Care to elaborate? Maybe next time stay away from the prawn cocktail. 'ugh' as in bobba this Habbo?
habeeb it
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On October 20 2011 13:24 dennistoo wrote:
BW_Jaedong
BW_Flash
BW_Bisu
BW_Hydra
BW_JangBi
BW_Stork
BW_sAviOr
BW_YellOw
BW_Reach
BW_Grrr
The new BW-SC2 team.
You wait.
This is KeSPA. He banned.
Curious to see how this will play out. Overall I'm cautiously excited with my big concern is if this went down the road of a slow and depressing fade out of BW. However I don't have anything against the concept and would LOVE to SC2 and BW going strong side by side with both drawing viewers and players in for the other!
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BW_Bisu will be the new Protoss hero. Bye bye MC
BW_Flash will be the new Terran hero. Bye bye MVP
BW_Jaedong will be the new Zerg hero. Bye bye Nestea.
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Speaking of strange behavior, does someone have a link explaining what is KeSPa, how they get their money and stuff ?
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What...?!
No thank you! I want BW teams to worry about BW, not two games at once.
Absolutely ridiculous!
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EPT
