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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
October 20 2011 03:46 GMT
#721
On October 20 2011 12:39 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 12:32 strongandbig wrote:
My big worry is that if this happens, kespa's rules and structure could further segregate korean versus western starcraft 2, and then starcraft 2 could die outside of korea like broodwar did.

SC2 outside korea is way too established to be affected by kespa's ruling (if it happens anyway)


It would be more likely to kill SC2 in Korea than out. One of the big draws for SC2 in Korea that BW doesn't have is that foreign players can and often do take games off Koreans, so Korea is only slightly better than everyone else. Banning Idra and Huk and Stephano and Thorzain, all foreigners who've won tournaments with Koreans in them, would hurt the legitimacy of KeSPA SC2.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
October 20 2011 03:51 GMT
#722
ugh
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
October 20 2011 03:54 GMT
#723
On October 20 2011 12:44 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 12:39 konadora wrote:
On October 20 2011 12:32 strongandbig wrote:
My big worry is that if this happens, kespa's rules and structure could further segregate korean versus western starcraft 2, and then starcraft 2 could die outside of korea like broodwar did.

SC2 outside korea is way too established to be affected by kespa's ruling (if it happens anyway)


I think he means having korean competition in the foreign scene. Eventually if the skill levels become too different I don't think people will watch non koreans or non korean trained players play.

There is enough money in the foreign scene that some korean will joining foreign teams if kespa prevent them from competing outside of korea.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
October 20 2011 03:56 GMT
#724
One question to consider is how the advent of progaming licenses would affect the korean sc2 scene. Foreigners would no longer be able to say, win a code A spot via MLG and come over and compete--they'd have to acquire a progaming license first. And if KeSPA adopts a similar policy with sc2 as with BW, progaming licenses will become VERY difficult to acquire.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
October 20 2011 03:57 GMT
#725
On October 20 2011 12:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
ugh


Care to elaborate? Maybe next time stay away from the prawn cocktail.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
J.E.G.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States389 Posts
October 20 2011 03:58 GMT
#726
In the negotiations w/ Kespa, I'm sure Blizzard will make some contractual agreements that prevent Kespa from attempting to monopolize blizzard's product in s. korea.

I don't really understand why kespa would want foreign/korean segregation anyways.... more international attention could lead to larger international sponsors. Doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not very familiar with the situation.
Do or do not; there is no try.
Galaxy613
Profile Joined March 2011
United States148 Posts
October 20 2011 04:01 GMT
#727
On October 20 2011 12:56 xxpack09 wrote:
One question to consider is how the advent of progaming licenses would affect the korean sc2 scene. Foreigners would no longer be able to say, win a code A spot via MLG and come over and compete--they'd have to acquire a progaming license first. And if KeSPA adopts a similar policy with sc2 as with BW, progaming licenses will become VERY difficult to acquire.


Haha, that's no problem for non-Koreans, we'll just stick to our MLG's, IPL's, Dreamhacks, NASL's... and our players will do just fine. This isn't BW anymore; KeSPA can't just twist our arm.
100,000 lightyears of awesome.
djbhINDI
Profile Joined June 2011
United States372 Posts
October 20 2011 04:12 GMT
#728
On October 20 2011 13:01 Galaxy613 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 12:56 xxpack09 wrote:
One question to consider is how the advent of progaming licenses would affect the korean sc2 scene. Foreigners would no longer be able to say, win a code A spot via MLG and come over and compete--they'd have to acquire a progaming license first. And if KeSPA adopts a similar policy with sc2 as with BW, progaming licenses will become VERY difficult to acquire.


Haha, that's no problem for non-Koreans, we'll just stick to our MLG's, IPL's, Dreamhacks, NASL's... and our players will do just fine. This isn't BW anymore; KeSPA can't just twist our arm.

lol, you do realize that 80% of good MLG, NASL etc. is made of Korean players who will flock back to Korea and get progaming licenses (except for maybe Hero).
You can't emphasize enough how much you need to be a paradigm shifter. - Savior
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
October 20 2011 04:13 GMT
#729
On October 20 2011 12:57 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 12:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
ugh


Care to elaborate? Maybe next time stay away from the prawn cocktail.


'ugh' as in bobba this
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
October 20 2011 04:18 GMT
#730
On October 20 2011 13:01 Galaxy613 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 12:56 xxpack09 wrote:
One question to consider is how the advent of progaming licenses would affect the korean sc2 scene. Foreigners would no longer be able to say, win a code A spot via MLG and come over and compete--they'd have to acquire a progaming license first. And if KeSPA adopts a similar policy with sc2 as with BW, progaming licenses will become VERY difficult to acquire.


Haha, that's no problem for non-Koreans, we'll just stick to our MLG's, IPL's, Dreamhacks, NASL's... and our players will do just fine. This isn't BW anymore; KeSPA can't just twist our arm.


That just creates a huge fragment in the growing global ESPORTS community though--which is still worrisome.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 20 2011 04:22 GMT
#731
On October 20 2011 13:01 Galaxy613 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 12:56 xxpack09 wrote:
One question to consider is how the advent of progaming licenses would affect the korean sc2 scene. Foreigners would no longer be able to say, win a code A spot via MLG and come over and compete--they'd have to acquire a progaming license first. And if KeSPA adopts a similar policy with sc2 as with BW, progaming licenses will become VERY difficult to acquire.


Haha, that's no problem for non-Koreans, we'll just stick to our MLG's, IPL's, Dreamhacks, NASL's... and our players will do just fine. This isn't BW anymore; KeSPA can't just twist our arm.

Even if you have leagues outside of Korea, once the play level gets significantly lower, people will lose interest aside from diehard fans of foreign SC2, similar to the BW situation.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
October 20 2011 04:23 GMT
#732
On October 20 2011 13:13 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 12:57 Probulous wrote:
On October 20 2011 12:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
ugh


Care to elaborate? Maybe next time stay away from the prawn cocktail.


'ugh' as in bobba this

Habbo?
dennistoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 04:25:57
October 20 2011 04:24 GMT
#733
BW_Jaedong
BW_Flash
BW_Fantasy
BW_Bisu
BW_Hydra
BW_JangBi
BW_Stork
BW_sAviOr
BW_YellOw
BW_Reach
BW_Grrr

The new BW-SC2 team.

You wait.
MC to Idra: 2-0? You Dream. I 4-0, you cry.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
October 20 2011 04:24 GMT
#734
On October 20 2011 13:23 MechKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 13:13 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On October 20 2011 12:57 Probulous wrote:
On October 20 2011 12:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
ugh


Care to elaborate? Maybe next time stay away from the prawn cocktail.


'ugh' as in bobba this

Habbo?


habeeb it
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 20 2011 04:28 GMT
#735
On October 20 2011 13:24 dennistoo wrote:
BW_Jaedong
BW_Flash
BW_Bisu
BW_Hydra
BW_JangBi
BW_Stork
BW_sAviOr
BW_YellOw
BW_Reach
BW_Grrr

The new BW-SC2 team.

You wait.


This is KeSPA. He banned.

Curious to see how this will play out. Overall I'm cautiously excited with my big concern is if this went down the road of a slow and depressing fade out of BW. However I don't have anything against the concept and would LOVE to SC2 and BW going strong side by side with both drawing viewers and players in for the other!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
dennistoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore155 Posts
October 20 2011 04:32 GMT
#736
BW_Bisu will be the new Protoss hero. Bye bye MC
BW_Flash will be the new Terran hero. Bye bye MVP
BW_Jaedong will be the new Zerg hero. Bye bye Nestea.
MC to Idra: 2-0? You Dream. I 4-0, you cry.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
October 20 2011 04:44 GMT
#737
Speaking of strange behavior, does someone have a link explaining what is KeSPa, how they get their money and stuff ?
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
October 20 2011 04:45 GMT
#738
On October 20 2011 13:44 Otolia wrote:
Speaking of strange behavior, does someone have a link explaining what is KeSPa, how they get their money and stuff ?


Google is your friend...

and so am I

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_e-Sports_Association
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
October 20 2011 04:46 GMT
#739
This is crazy!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 20 2011 04:48 GMT
#740
What...?!

No thank you! I want BW teams to worry about BW, not two games at once.

Absolutely ridiculous!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
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