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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 23:38:24
October 19 2011 23:38 GMT
#621
Very nice. SC2 needs proleague in Korea. Teams just don't take the GSTL seriously enough and with teams only playing 5 times ever 10 weeks it doesn't give enough opportunity for lesser players and teams to develop their name value. Wonder if GOM will cooperate with Kespa or if they will coexist as competing leagues. I hope for the latter.
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 23:41:16
October 19 2011 23:41 GMT
#622
holy craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap

+_+

i sincerely hope this comes to fruition.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
October 19 2011 23:42 GMT
#623
as an aside the sponsors of BW would probably love for their products to be seen by an international audience.

Jus sayin.
Tahts halo dont worry
Kring
Profile Joined August 2011
Portugal70 Posts
October 19 2011 23:44 GMT
#624
It won´t overlap anything, sc2 has a unique viewerbase. And BW has another.

And this is only natural. There is more money in the sc2 circuit, more people following, its a finance move for kespa, why can´t they grab a shot at the money cow that is (right now, and hopefully for a long time) Sc2 tournaments?

And sc2 is fine.
Evolution complete
Geosensation
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
October 19 2011 23:44 GMT
#625
On October 20 2011 08:32 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 08:20 Geosensation wrote:
not sure if this is a good thing. It's good that BW is on the way out so SC2 can take over completely and so better quality of players and less BW purists around, but bad in that the BW purists will now be more vocal in their annoying complaints about the quality of sc2

Why is it a good thing that BW is on its way out?


i literally said why in the next few words...
"My life for Aiur!"
HawtLove
Profile Joined May 2011
United States113 Posts
October 19 2011 23:45 GMT
#626
On October 20 2011 08:44 Kring wrote:
It won´t overlap anything, sc2 has a unique viewerbase. And BW has another.

And this is only natural. There is more money in the sc2 circuit, more people following, its a finance move for kespa, why can´t they grab a shot at the money cow that is (right now, and hopefully for a long time) Sc2 tournaments?

And sc2 is fine.

Actually BW pros make way more than SC2 pros because team salaries are EXTREMELY high. Perhaps there's more international prize money involved in SC2, but to say more money overall is ludicrous
"When the game is over, the king and the pawn go back to the same box."
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
October 19 2011 23:52 GMT
#627
On October 20 2011 08:45 HawtLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 08:44 Kring wrote:
It won´t overlap anything, sc2 has a unique viewerbase. And BW has another.

And this is only natural. There is more money in the sc2 circuit, more people following, its a finance move for kespa, why can´t they grab a shot at the money cow that is (right now, and hopefully for a long time) Sc2 tournaments?

And sc2 is fine.

Actually BW pros make way more than SC2 pros because team salaries are EXTREMELY high. Perhaps there's more international prize money involved in SC2, but to say more money overall is ludicrous


Actually only a handful of players make a kickass living out of bw, and with sponsors dropping their interest and teams disbanding left and right, it won't get any better.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
October 19 2011 23:54 GMT
#628
On October 20 2011 08:45 HawtLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 08:44 Kring wrote:
It won´t overlap anything, sc2 has a unique viewerbase. And BW has another.

And this is only natural. There is more money in the sc2 circuit, more people following, its a finance move for kespa, why can´t they grab a shot at the money cow that is (right now, and hopefully for a long time) Sc2 tournaments?

And sc2 is fine.

Actually BW pros make way more than SC2 pros because team salaries are EXTREMELY high. Perhaps there's more international prize money involved in SC2, but to say more money overall is ludicrous


So that's an even bigger reason to get into SC2... rather than giving a player 250k like they do Flash, they can give a player 50k.. and keep the 200k for themselves. I think you got what he said backwards.. yes there is more money in broodwar.. for the players..
That wasn't what was said, it was about Kespa trying to get some of the huge international money being thrown at sc2.. that the players aren't getting. If they get the same level of interest / sponsorship for sc2 as they do bw.. they'll turn over a bigger profit because they are giving less of it back.
戦いの中に答えはある
Kring
Profile Joined August 2011
Portugal70 Posts
October 19 2011 23:57 GMT
#629
On October 20 2011 08:45 HawtLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 08:44 Kring wrote:
It won´t overlap anything, sc2 has a unique viewerbase. And BW has another.

And this is only natural. There is more money in the sc2 circuit, more people following, its a finance move for kespa, why can´t they grab a shot at the money cow that is (right now, and hopefully for a long time) Sc2 tournaments?

And sc2 is fine.

Actually BW pros make way more than SC2 pros because team salaries are EXTREMELY high. Perhaps there's more international prize money involved in SC2, but to say more money overall is ludicrous


I wasn´t talking about salaries. :D

Im talking about the money/tournaments around the world, Mlg has much more wiewers obviously that any kespa sanctioned event. every end of the month there is some kind of major final, or two. This is the time for kespa AS A COMPANY that needs money to get up in the bandwagon, which will get sc2 and bw bigger and bigger. But people need to stop being "magic christmas land" about BW. The game's growth has stopped - long time ago. It is a great game, but people are fancying more sc2 right now, and it has a great growth potential - even if BW players/fans say otherwise.
Evolution complete
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 19 2011 23:59 GMT
#630
No, MLG doesn't have more viewers than KeSPA events. Don't make up stupid bullshit.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 00:00:44
October 19 2011 23:59 GMT
#631
I'm not very familiar with kespa or the broodwar scene. I just have a few questions that I would like answered if anyone is so kind to do so.

What were the foreign broodwar tournaments like? Did Koreans ever come over to complete like they do now?

Would Kespa intervene with the growth of SC2 globally and kind of shut the Korean teams in Korea, and shut the Foreign teams out?

Would Korean players still have the opportunities to come to foreign tournaments or would Kespa prevent them from doing so?

Did broodwar teams make their own decisions or did everything have to go through Kespa for approval?



nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
October 19 2011 23:59 GMT
#632
On October 20 2011 02:37 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 02:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I heard about this article from Ryo earlier today,but shouldn't this be in the SC2 forums?


Proleague belongs to Brood War >:o


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gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
October 19 2011 23:59 GMT
#633
On October 20 2011 08:57 Kring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 08:45 HawtLove wrote:
On October 20 2011 08:44 Kring wrote:
It won´t overlap anything, sc2 has a unique viewerbase. And BW has another.

And this is only natural. There is more money in the sc2 circuit, more people following, its a finance move for kespa, why can´t they grab a shot at the money cow that is (right now, and hopefully for a long time) Sc2 tournaments?

And sc2 is fine.

Actually BW pros make way more than SC2 pros because team salaries are EXTREMELY high. Perhaps there's more international prize money involved in SC2, but to say more money overall is ludicrous


I wasn´t talking about salaries. :D

Im talking about the money/tournaments around the world, Mlg has much more wiewers obviously that any kespa sanctioned event.


Facepalm. You are an idiot.
Michaels
Profile Joined August 2010
419 Posts
October 20 2011 00:01 GMT
#634
On October 20 2011 08:57 Kring wrote:
Im talking about the money/tournaments around the world, Mlg has much more wiewers obviously that any kespa sanctioned event


proof?
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
October 20 2011 00:03 GMT
#635
OMG!! Please!! I really hope this happens!! Let's see what will happen meanwhile, I hope it becomes real!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
lee365
Profile Joined December 2010
United States448 Posts
October 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#636
Great News. Although I hope this doesn't hurt GSL too much.
Terran Fighting! NoSoupfOu.517
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
October 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#637
On October 20 2011 08:57 Kring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 08:45 HawtLove wrote:
On October 20 2011 08:44 Kring wrote:
It won´t overlap anything, sc2 has a unique viewerbase. And BW has another.

And this is only natural. There is more money in the sc2 circuit, more people following, its a finance move for kespa, why can´t they grab a shot at the money cow that is (right now, and hopefully for a long time) Sc2 tournaments?

And sc2 is fine.

Actually BW pros make way more than SC2 pros because team salaries are EXTREMELY high. Perhaps there's more international prize money involved in SC2, but to say more money overall is ludicrous


I wasn´t talking about salaries. :D

Im talking about the money/tournaments around the world, Mlg has much more wiewers obviously that any kespa sanctioned event. every end of the month there is some kind of major final, or two. This is the time for kespa AS A COMPANY that needs money to get up in the bandwagon, which will get sc2 and bw bigger and bigger. But people need to stop being "magic christmas land" about BW. The game's growth has stopped - long time ago. It is a great game, but people are fancying more sc2 right now, and it has a great growth potential - even if BW players/fans say otherwise.


Perfectly spoken like someone who has no fucking clue what they are talking about.
GG_NO_RE
Profile Joined October 2009
Japan238 Posts
October 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#638
i really hope this doesn't happen
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
October 20 2011 00:05 GMT
#639
great news.

User was warned for this post
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 20 2011 00:06 GMT
#640
On October 20 2011 08:59 magnaflow wrote:
I'm not very familiar with kespa or the broodwar scene. I just have a few questions that I would like answered if anyone is so kind to do so.

What were the foreign broodwar tournaments like? Did Koreans ever come over to complete like they do now?

Would Kespa intervene with the growth of SC2 globally and kind of shut the Korean teams in Korea, and shut the Foreign teams out?

Would Korean players still have the opportunities to come to foreign tournaments or would Kespa prevent them from going so?

Did broodwar teams make their own decisions or did everything have to go through Kespa for approval?





KeSPA doesn't just stop anything from happening like apparently you've been lead to believe. Foreign BW tournaments generally did not allow Koreans in the first place. The teams decided if their players could go abroad for events like WCG (which was always allowed anyway), because they are under contract with the teams. Players on contracts can't expect to go and do what they like, people talk about professionalism so much in SC2, well this is part of it.

Proleague format run's constantly for most of the year, with gaps in between 'rounds'. There's less time for players to be able to do other tournaments in between PL play, especially if the GSL is still running too. I think it's too complicated of a situation already because of Blizzard's deal with Gretech. KeSPA usually requires progamers to have licenses so they are infact, professional. How this could work, plus all the scheduling conflicts i have no idea. Gretech isn't even going to want to give up their exclusivity in the first place yet everyone here is assuming they would (why?).
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