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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:41 jidolboy wrote: Unfortunately it happens when BW related news gets posted on community news -.- This isn't BW news at all. It's KeSPA trying to cannibalize the SC2 scene. | ||
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sour_eraser
Canada932 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:42 Ribbon wrote: This isn't BW news at all. It's KeSPA trying to cannibalize the SC2 scene. Even though this news isnt directly related to BW, most fanboys/trolls looks at BW in the description and without thinking twice, they make a stupid comment | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:19 Kring wrote: Im glad that you answer like that to a simple conversation. Pretty funny actually. Proof? There is no proof. You can argue fake numbers anywhere. Just common sense, and TL presence. How many people watch broodwar finals in the tl posted streams ? 1 thousand, a bit more, i watch them. How many people watch mlg/gsl right now? Go check the sites/reports, im not bothering to search exact numbers and show them to people that don´t understand that sc2 was released not much more than 1 year ago, and its bigger than BW by far. Are you really thinking that kespa events IN THIS DAY have more viewers than sc2? Please... be realistic. And you can say all you want, i´ve seen this with a bazilion other games and sequels. Quake 2 was released people went all elitist, saying that quake 1 was the better game. Thats not what im -saying here. Im talking money. And i like sc2 more, bw was good while it lasted. Sorry he is right, you are an idiot... Yes in the Foreign scene more people watch Sc2. but OSL and MSL finals are broadcasted on TV in Korea and get near the millions in viewers. So to say more people watch Sc2 is quite possibly one the the dumbest things I've ever read on this forum. All that being said, I personally prefer Sc2 over BW right now. I would love to see Sc2 pro league alogn side BW! As for money, Tournament wise Sc2 wins. But overall its still all BW Bisu Jaedong and Flash's salaries alone trump all Sc2 tourneys prize pools put together.... if you can be A team in BW its much much much more profitable to do so then switch over to Sc2 and have to fly around and be jet lagged 24/7 just to try and make half as much money in foreign tournaments... | ||
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sour_eraser
Canada932 Posts
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Philo
United States337 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:42 Ribbon wrote: This isn't BW news at all. It's KeSPA trying to cannibalize the SC2 scene. It's KeSPA trying to keep ESPORTS alive in the future. The SC2 Koreans have been wishing for this since release. If KeSPA can make it happen more power to them. If BW teams will support their players in SC2 and KeSPA will get it broadcast, then the ideal situation for Korean players is reached. Even if Koreans end up not being able to go to tourneys not sponsored by Blizzard or maybe GOM. | ||
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m0nkeyknight
New Zealand37 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:49 Philo wrote: It's KeSPA trying to keep ESPORTS alive in the future. The SC2 Koreans have been wishing for this since release. If KeSPA can make it happen more power to them. If BW teams will support their players in SC2 and KeSPA will get it broadcast, then the ideal situation for Korean players is reached. Even if Koreans end up not being able to go to tourneys not sponsored by Blizzard or maybe GOM. Dealing a huge blow to IPL, MLG, NASL (kinda) and the foreign SC2 scene in general is not what the Koreans want, and it's not good for "e-sports". GOM has been way way better for foreign AND Korean SC2 than KeSPA would ever be. If KeSPA takes over Korean SC2, what happens to Liquid'Hero? FnaticRain? Do they not get to play in Korea because they're not on a "licensed" team? | ||
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Imbak333
Canada49 Posts
If this is true then sc2 will get more viewers then bw for kespa, and from a business standpoint wouldnt they logically give sc2 the prime time hours that bw has now? | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:51 m0nkeyknight wrote: ! but i hope they dont impose all their player restrictions or else no more crazy ceremonies This is what worries me the most about this. If Kespa gets the rights for Sc2 when Gom's contract is up they will surely swoop in and rule with an iron fist . The good thing is with all the foreign tournaments going on as well they wouldn't be able to stop the ceremonies at events like MLG etc. | ||
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imperator-xy
Germany1377 Posts
i would get an orgasm at school, that would be so awkward | ||
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:56 Imbak333 wrote: I may very well be wrong on this, but isnt the amount of people that watch sc2 alot higher then the amount of koreans that watch bw? ~because of the foreign scene of course If this is true then sc2 will get more viewers then bw for kespa, and from a business standpoint wouldnt they logically give sc2 the prime time hours that bw has now? Well honestly most of all Koreans are still watching BW, and still have more interest for BW than SC2. | ||
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Kaiwa
Netherlands2209 Posts
 Really hoping this will happen... | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
I respect both games, but when the flaws and glitches of a game become sanctified by its fanbase as yet another example of why its superior that takes it to a whole new level of fanaticism. SC2 has absolutely nothing stopping it from being a damn fine sequel to the legacy of BW, but it will never be BW because only BW is BW. If you were honestly hoping for BW2, you were setting yourself up to fail. And if you honestly thought KeSPA gave a damn about "preserving BW for the sake of BW" you are way too naive. KeSPA made money with BW, now SC2 is also a respectable option for more money making schemes. The beauty for them is BW money will probably come from within Korea, while SC2 money comes from outside Korea. If anything, this will allow them to hold on to BW that much longer since they will have more money to toss around. When MBC was going through their issues, the line we all heard was "This isn't just bad for BW is bad for all esports". Well in this case "This isn't just good for SC2, this is good for all esports." Whether you like it or not. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:59 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: Well honestly most of all Koreans are still watching BW, and still have more interest for BW than SC2. Yes, but I believe he means that the foreigner fans for SC2 outnumber the Korean fans for BW. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:56 Imbak333 wrote: I may very well be wrong on this, but isnt the amount of people that watch sc2 alot higher then the amount of koreans that watch bw? ~because of the foreign scene of course Maaaaybe. I think it's comparable, because MLG Raleigh has something like 1 million uniques, but BW is really really really big. If this is true then sc2 will get more viewers then bw for kespa, and from a business standpoint wouldnt they logically give sc2 the prime time hours that bw has now? No. KeSPA would value Korean viewers over foreign viewers, as would the sponsors (since they're Korean companies in the very beating heart of Korea). The foreign viewers, also, are a great reason not to have matches in Korean prime time, since that's awkward for North America (especially on the East Coast ;_;). It makes putting SC2 on at weird-ass hours make more sense because it's more convenient to foreign viewers and a better use of that timeslot than most other things they could put there. | ||
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Philo
United States337 Posts
On October 20 2011 09:54 Ribbon wrote: Dealing a huge blow to IPL, MLG, NASL (kinda) and the foreign SC2 scene in general is not what the Koreans want, and it's not good for "e-sports". GOM has been way way better for foreign AND Korean SC2 than KeSPA would ever be. If KeSPA takes over Korean SC2, what happens to Liquid'Hero? FnaticRain? Do they not get to play in Korea because they're not on a "licensed" team? GSL's not going anywhere. GOMTV's not suddenly going to roll over and be KeSPA's bitch when they've got such a firm history with Blizzard and Its not fucking likely that a foreign team or its players would ever be allowed (or able) to play in Proleague anyways. Fact is that Korean SC2 players still don't make shit and what little betterment of their situation they've had is mostly due to GOM not foreign tournaments. As long as MLG and other foreign tournaments continue to talk to GOM, Koreans will make it to those events. Meanwhile, KeSPA events will give them sponsorship opportunities, so teams like ZeNEX can afford to hold onto their players. | ||
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Amornthep
Singapore2605 Posts
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theBOOCH
United States832 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On October 20 2011 10:06 Ribbon wrote: Maaaaybe. I think it's comparable, because MLG Raleigh has something like 1 million uniques, but BW is really really really big. MLG peaks at around 100k right? Peak for proleague finals was 1.2 mil. Edit: 1.2 mil is only T.V viewers. That doesn't include the Chinese streams, where the number estimations range from 1 to 6 mil. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
Jesus Christ, nothing about this news bit is about BW. It's KeSPA + SC2. | ||
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