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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
October 19 2011 19:12 GMT
#321
On October 20 2011 04:09 fortheGG wrote:
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On October 20 2011 04:05 rift wrote:
Won't this have a negative effect on the b teamer population in scbw? They were already having enough trouble getting new blood and made myStarleague, which bombed.


They've had the option to go pro in sc2 since it came out.


Now they have more incentive to, televised and on well funded teams (if they make sc2 divisions?)
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
October 19 2011 19:12 GMT
#322
chills all up and down!!! this is really really awesome, more eSports always a good thing
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
October 19 2011 19:13 GMT
#323
I don't want kespa hurting the current sc2 teams or forcing them to pick up BW team sponsorships. If that doesn't happen, great news.
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
October 19 2011 19:13 GMT
#324
Does this mean topplayers will be dedicated to tournaments without English speaking casters? If so, I hope this doesn't come true. If GomTV will cast it, then I'm indifferent, I guess.
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
October 19 2011 19:14 GMT
#325
Hopefully they just make it so the ace match is a Starcraft II match between the two aces of each Brood War team if it comes down to a 7th set. Then we can see Bisu, Flash, etc...playing SC2.
Perfect
Profile Joined August 2010
United States322 Posts
October 19 2011 19:14 GMT
#326
On October 20 2011 02:42 villageidiot wrote:
Tastosis probably will be working in US or Europe soon. XD. GomTV is doomed.



Why can't they?

Here in NA we have NASL, MLG, IGN

do they not all do fairly well?
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
October 19 2011 19:14 GMT
#327
On October 20 2011 02:43 Gann1 wrote:
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On October 20 2011 02:42 villageidiot wrote:
Tastosis probably will be working in US or Europe soon. XD. GomTV is doomed.


Hey, maybe they'll be hired by OGN and we can get live english BW commentary in addition to SC2 commentary!

I would actually love that. One of the primary reasons I don't watch much BW is the lack of English.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 19 2011 19:14 GMT
#328
Ooh, I am excited for this!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
vanhio
Profile Joined November 2010
Niue1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 19:18:59
October 19 2011 19:15 GMT
#329
I want sc2 in proleague I hope something good will come out of this.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10339 Posts
October 19 2011 19:16 GMT
#330
On October 20 2011 02:34 keiraknightlee wrote:
It won't matter if Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu aren't playing


you forget stork =O even though he's not doing as good as he used to atm
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PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
October 19 2011 19:16 GMT
#331
My question is: How's kespa gonna form new sc2 teams?

They are struggling with some bw teams already, deciding to build brand new ones for sc2 is insanity.
Where are they gonna get the sponsors?

What's gonna happen to the current gstl teams?
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
October 19 2011 19:16 GMT
#332
It only makes sense that the Korean teams start thinking about the future. That said, upgrading their PCs and making internal tests still sounds very cautious and implies that it's going to be a slow process transitioning over to SC2.

Still, they have to start somewhere! They're probably waiting how the talks with the license holders go.


But yeah, more SC2 tournaments in Korea, more organisations getting involved, more broadcasts, more players being recruited/switching over - this can only be a good thing.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 19 2011 19:16 GMT
#333
Oh god, MBC SC2 team??!?!? I'm probably going to die if this comes to fruition.

Conspiracy note: Four top SC:BW players coming to blizzcon this weekend hmm...
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Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
October 19 2011 19:17 GMT
#334
This could actually extend BW's life if done right. I'm for it if it makes BW go on longer in addition to helping SC2.

If it hurts BW, don't do it. I'd rather have BW live longer than SC2 get some help.

Oh and he possibility of teams having divisions? If they can have teams with 3 divisions they could make a system in which teams get points for their teams performance in each game and whoever has the highest total at the end wins like a intra-game team prize for that year or something. That would encourage teams to make each scene grow so they can get money and prestige from that. (Just an idea though)

Either way hope this is good for all of eSports, not just SC2.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 19:18:00
October 19 2011 19:17 GMT
#335
On October 20 2011 04:13 ampson wrote:
I don't want kespa hurting the current sc2 teams or forcing them to pick up BW team sponsorships. If that doesn't happen, great news.


No one is going to force anyone. That's ridiculous.

If anything, as long as PL keeps its focus on BW, I'll be fine with this. Besides:

On October 20 2011 04:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 02:34 keiraknightlee wrote:
It won't matter if Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu aren't playing


you forget stork =O even though he's not doing as good as he used to atm


This.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 19 2011 19:18 GMT
#336
On October 20 2011 04:16 Risen wrote:
Oh god, MBC SC2 team??!?!? I'm probably going to die if this comes to fruition.

Conspiracy note: Four top SC:BW players coming to blizzcon this weekend hmm...

Sorry to break this to you but MBC is pulling out of esports.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
MrDonkeyBong
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada103 Posts
October 19 2011 19:18 GMT
#337
On October 20 2011 04:14 tryummm wrote:
Hopefully they just make it so the ace match is a Starcraft II match between the two aces of each Brood War team if it comes down to a 7th set. Then we can see Bisu, Flash, etc...playing SC2.

The two games will have two separate tournaments, SC2 Proleague, and BW Proleague. If this even goes through, of course.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." -- Carl Sagan
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
October 19 2011 19:19 GMT
#338
OH yes, let's go Starcraft 2! <3
WellPlayed.org <3
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
October 19 2011 19:20 GMT
#339
On October 20 2011 03:54 TheGlassface wrote:
14 pages and so many topics and no one gets it.

We BW fans are becoming marginalized at every step. Of course we're going to be in defensive postures.

This website is clearly more focused on SCII than BW
The majority of us speak English and the English speaking world is clearly more focused on SCII.
Hell, we can't even watch our games in English or read about them in English.
Our player roster is being marginalized as more and more B teamers and old Bonjwas go over.
In almost every global event, BW is being marginalized if not cut right out.
Our forum here is a constant battleground, as we now are about 1/2 of the poster count
...

So...yea, now you're telling me that my PL is "meshing," with SCII?
I was more than fine with my game, my PL and my website. I have none of these things now, as they were.

I, of all people, don't want to start the war here but the fact is this is why we get pissy. Every, single, time.

Just try and think from our side next time you want to come in here and post like villageidiot or any of his ilk. We don't care that you like your game, we want you to enjoy it. We just want what once was back or at the very least to stop being squeezed in and nudged over to make room for the new puppy.

So, while you see it is "cooperation," and "sharing," we see it as just another in a long line of unfortunate events that continue to shrink and mold our sport alongside something it is not, taking away fans, airtime and players.

Either way, thank you for the news OP. It's always nice to know what is going on in the scene.

Thank you. Fans of Brood War need to realize that the only thing that can come out of this is SC2 slowly taking media space from BroodWar and eventually killing it. And one more thing: Why are they even trying to combine this two games,except for name of the game and few units with same name they don`t have anything in common. Mechanics and gameplay is TOTALLY different. Blizzard is making tons of money from SC2 just just because it is sequel to Brood War,and now Kespa (or whoever it is) is trying to do the same. You say it is a great game,you say it`s better then Brood War? Fine. Start from 0 like Brood War did and then come to me in 10 years and we`ll see where will your game be then. It`s pretty easy to just take over from Brood War. But also it`s pretty unjust.
price
Profile Joined December 2010
United States297 Posts
October 19 2011 19:21 GMT
#340
On October 20 2011 04:05 Kipsate wrote:
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On October 20 2011 04:02 price wrote:
On October 20 2011 03:55 Velinath wrote:
My hopes:

1) This doesn't kill BW. BW is a fantastic game in and of itself.
2) KeSPA doesn't do anything too ridiculous (eg lets their players go to MLG and so forth)/GOM is able to coexist with new Proleagues
3) Teams are able to do awesome things with both games, and the metagame is given a boost to its evolution in both BW and SC2.


Unfortunately, if an uninformed observer sees BW and sees SC2, they will see a resemblance, but there is no way they would choose BW on face value (i.e., superficial). The graphics are simply too outdated. This seems like a natural transition away from BW by including both. Eventually they will phase out BW if the fan base doesnt keep growing (and I cant see how it will grow with its better looking younger brother SC2 stealing the spotlight).


Bear in mind that it is not that simple in Korea, BW is a sport and a culture, SC2 to them is just a game. E-Sports in general in Korea is struggling, people who switched from BW didn't switch to SC2, they switched to MMO's and shit.


I always thought Korea was sort of a saturated market with not that much room for growth. I was thinking more outside Korea.
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