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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
October 19 2011 19:02 GMT
#301
This was... unexpected. Hopefully this time negotiations won't fall out. Really look foward to seeing some true Korean masters of RTS come to SC2. Still, for the others' sake, I hope this doesn't bury BW any more.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
price
Profile Joined December 2010
United States297 Posts
October 19 2011 19:02 GMT
#302
On October 20 2011 03:55 Velinath wrote:
My hopes:

1) This doesn't kill BW. BW is a fantastic game in and of itself.
2) KeSPA doesn't do anything too ridiculous (eg lets their players go to MLG and so forth)/GOM is able to coexist with new Proleagues
3) Teams are able to do awesome things with both games, and the metagame is given a boost to its evolution in both BW and SC2.


Unfortunately, if an uninformed observer sees BW and sees SC2, they will see a resemblance, but there is no way they would choose BW on face value (i.e., superficial). The graphics are simply too outdated. This seems like a natural transition away from BW by including both. Eventually they will phase out BW if the fan base doesnt keep growing (and I cant see how it will grow with its better looking younger brother SC2 stealing the spotlight).
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
FluXen
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada210 Posts
October 19 2011 19:03 GMT
#303
I don't think GSL would go, i think they would merge
"Rise and Rise Again till Lamb become Lion"-Robin Hood
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
October 19 2011 19:04 GMT
#304
About time

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Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
October 19 2011 19:05 GMT
#305
Won't this have a negative effect on the b teamer population in scbw? They were already having enough trouble getting new blood and made myStarleague, which bombed.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 19 2011 19:05 GMT
#306
On October 20 2011 04:02 price wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 03:55 Velinath wrote:
My hopes:

1) This doesn't kill BW. BW is a fantastic game in and of itself.
2) KeSPA doesn't do anything too ridiculous (eg lets their players go to MLG and so forth)/GOM is able to coexist with new Proleagues
3) Teams are able to do awesome things with both games, and the metagame is given a boost to its evolution in both BW and SC2.


Unfortunately, if an uninformed observer sees BW and sees SC2, they will see a resemblance, but there is no way they would choose BW on face value (i.e., superficial). The graphics are simply too outdated. This seems like a natural transition away from BW by including both. Eventually they will phase out BW if the fan base doesnt keep growing (and I cant see how it will grow with its better looking younger brother SC2 stealing the spotlight).


Bear in mind that it is not that simple in Korea, BW is a sport and a culture, SC2 to them is just a game. E-Sports in general in Korea is struggling, people who switched from BW didn't switch to SC2, they switched to MMO's and shit.
WriterXiao8~~
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
October 19 2011 19:05 GMT
#307
On October 20 2011 03:52 JiPrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 03:43 Nick_54 wrote:
On October 20 2011 03:38 Garnet wrote:
GOM is much more foreign-friendly than KeSPA though. I really hope both GSL and PL can co-exist.


Yeah really friendly making us for content Koreans get for free.

at least you got them. but kespa? they wont even let players attend international tourneys.


WCG, IEM, PGL, Blizzard WWI, Blizzcon, and i'm sure there are others. You have no idea what you are talking about.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
October 19 2011 19:06 GMT
#308
Hope the two games will continue growing individually and help keeping the korean audience

Maybe it could help the televise channels too if bw fans and sc2 fans can watch both games on the same tv channels
cmgillett
Profile Joined March 2010
United States335 Posts
October 19 2011 19:06 GMT
#309
cu bw

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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
October 19 2011 19:06 GMT
#310
On October 20 2011 04:02 Al Bundy wrote:
As long as it isn't detrimental to BW, I'm all for it!! Go KeSPA.


I think it would actually help both games pick up steam!
Hopefully this works out and Blizzard doesn't have a bad one over it.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Shaok
Profile Joined October 2010
297 Posts
October 19 2011 19:08 GMT
#311
Very interested to see all the really gosu BW pros transition over into SC2 because its mainly what I play/watch... However when it happens I feel for you guys who don't want this to happen and I can see your point.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
October 19 2011 19:08 GMT
#312
Just leave this thread be. Nothing can become good of this unless it is moved to the proper forum.
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
October 19 2011 19:09 GMT
#313
An unexpected news, i hope we'll get more details about it.
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
October 19 2011 19:09 GMT
#314
On October 20 2011 04:05 rift wrote:
Won't this have a negative effect on the b teamer population in scbw? They were already having enough trouble getting new blood and made myStarleague, which bombed.


They've had the option to go pro in sc2 since it came out.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
October 19 2011 19:09 GMT
#315
On October 20 2011 04:02 price wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 03:55 Velinath wrote:
My hopes:

1) This doesn't kill BW. BW is a fantastic game in and of itself.
2) KeSPA doesn't do anything too ridiculous (eg lets their players go to MLG and so forth)/GOM is able to coexist with new Proleagues
3) Teams are able to do awesome things with both games, and the metagame is given a boost to its evolution in both BW and SC2.


Unfortunately, if an uninformed observer sees BW and sees SC2, they will see a resemblance, but there is no way they would choose BW on face value (i.e., superficial). The graphics are simply too outdated. This seems like a natural transition away from BW by including both. Eventually they will phase out BW if the fan base doesnt keep growing (and I cant see how it will grow with its better looking younger brother SC2 stealing the spotlight).


Koreans generally know and like bw graphics. There were complaints that it's hard for spectators (who dont play the games they watch) to make stuff out in the big gfx-intensive battles.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
October 19 2011 19:10 GMT
#316
Huge news for SC2!
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
October 19 2011 19:10 GMT
#317
omg this is sooo sick, but im hoping it doesn't mess with gsl.

but if its free then i hope so regardless soo happy to hear this
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 19:13:58
October 19 2011 19:11 GMT
#318
I don't know how to feel about this, one side of me reaaly wants it to be BW only, but another side is so excited to see this casted by themarine...

On another note, it would be nice to see PL on OnGame and individual leagues on GomTV.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 19:12:59
October 19 2011 19:11 GMT
#319
Hopefully this means Starcraft 2 might get more entertaining. Proleague was pretty good at covering all things Starcraft.

Edit: to be honest though, this might actually raise coverage of BW, which I am all for.
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ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
October 19 2011 19:11 GMT
#320
OMFG. :D

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