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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 05 2011 21:23 GMT
#301
im a sc2 player and the reason I got back into BW was simply the awesome stories behind boxer, oov, savior, flash, jaedong, etc. oh and especially FBH. it was BW players in the SC2 scene telling the sc2 guys stories of the old days that really took my interest.
zimz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States510 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 21:42:53
December 05 2011 21:38 GMT
#302
BW is not popular in west because we keep getting owned so bad vs Koreans(stomped to death). it discourages people and they want to play sc2 instead because its less mechanically demanding. Lets face it this is the reason sc1 pros left in droves to sc2, not because they believe sc2 is more fun. sc2 is just mechanically easier for foreigners, and aging Korean bw players.
zimz
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
December 05 2011 21:56 GMT
#303
On December 06 2011 06:38 zimz wrote:
BW is not popular in west because we keep getting owned so bad vs Koreans(stomped to death). it discourages people and they want to play sc2 instead because its less mechanically demanding. Lets face it this is the reason sc1 pros left in droves to sc2, not because they believe sc2 is more fun. sc2 is just mechanically easier for foreigners, and aging Korean bw players.

Noone argues this (except mad SC2 fanbois).
But this isn't the point of this thread. This thread is about making BW interesting on a casual level.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 05 2011 23:37 GMT
#304
On December 06 2011 06:56 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 06:38 zimz wrote:
BW is not popular in west because we keep getting owned so bad vs Koreans(stomped to death). it discourages people and they want to play sc2 instead because its less mechanically demanding. Lets face it this is the reason sc1 pros left in droves to sc2, not because they believe sc2 is more fun. sc2 is just mechanically easier for foreigners, and aging Korean bw players.

Noone argues this (except mad SC2 fanbois).
But this isn't the point of this thread. This thread is about making BW interesting on a casual level.


No, they left because initially it was something new to try and then stayed because so much more money was available. Kinda hard to justify practicing BW 6-8 hours or more per day only to still be worse than B-team level with only the occasional chance to make some money by having a good run in tournaments like TSL.

I'm pretty confident that if BW had the same amount of money in it as SC2 you would see many foreigners come back and play BW.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
December 05 2011 23:41 GMT
#305
On December 06 2011 08:37 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 06:56 blubbdavid wrote:
On December 06 2011 06:38 zimz wrote:
BW is not popular in west because we keep getting owned so bad vs Koreans(stomped to death). it discourages people and they want to play sc2 instead because its less mechanically demanding. Lets face it this is the reason sc1 pros left in droves to sc2, not because they believe sc2 is more fun. sc2 is just mechanically easier for foreigners, and aging Korean bw players.

Noone argues this (except mad SC2 fanbois).
But this isn't the point of this thread. This thread is about making BW interesting on a casual level.


No, they left because initially it was something new to try and then stayed because so much more money was available. Kinda hard to justify practicing BW 6-8 hours or more per day only to still be worse than B-team level with only the occasional chance to make some money by having a good run in tournaments like TSL.

I'm pretty confident that if BW had the same amount of money in it as SC2 you would see many foreigners come back and play BW.


I highly doubt there are any foreigners who practice 6-8 hours a day. With the exception of Idra, Ret, and Nony will in Korea.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
December 05 2011 23:58 GMT
#306
On December 06 2011 06:38 zimz wrote:
BW is not popular in west because we keep getting owned so bad vs Koreans(stomped to death). it discourages people and they want to play sc2 instead because its less mechanically demanding. Lets face it this is the reason sc1 pros left in droves to sc2, not because they believe sc2 is more fun. sc2 is just mechanically easier for foreigners, and aging Korean bw players.


That is probably the smallest reason, the biggest reason is money, money, money. The root of all evil.
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greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
December 06 2011 00:01 GMT
#307
On December 06 2011 08:41 tryummm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 08:37 L_Master wrote:
On December 06 2011 06:56 blubbdavid wrote:
On December 06 2011 06:38 zimz wrote:
BW is not popular in west because we keep getting owned so bad vs Koreans(stomped to death). it discourages people and they want to play sc2 instead because its less mechanically demanding. Lets face it this is the reason sc1 pros left in droves to sc2, not because they believe sc2 is more fun. sc2 is just mechanically easier for foreigners, and aging Korean bw players.

Noone argues this (except mad SC2 fanbois).
But this isn't the point of this thread. This thread is about making BW interesting on a casual level.


No, they left because initially it was something new to try and then stayed because so much more money was available. Kinda hard to justify practicing BW 6-8 hours or more per day only to still be worse than B-team level with only the occasional chance to make some money by having a good run in tournaments like TSL.

I'm pretty confident that if BW had the same amount of money in it as SC2 you would see many foreigners come back and play BW.


I highly doubt there are any foreigners who practice 6-8 hours a day. With the exception of Idra, Ret, and Nony will in Korea.

Foreigners moved to SC2 because there was a foreignerscene mit tournaments and prizemoney...korean B-Teamer were thinking about a better chance of being one of the top class player like mentioned before.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 06 2011 00:03 GMT
#308
On December 06 2011 08:41 tryummm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 08:37 L_Master wrote:
On December 06 2011 06:56 blubbdavid wrote:
On December 06 2011 06:38 zimz wrote:
BW is not popular in west because we keep getting owned so bad vs Koreans(stomped to death). it discourages people and they want to play sc2 instead because its less mechanically demanding. Lets face it this is the reason sc1 pros left in droves to sc2, not because they believe sc2 is more fun. sc2 is just mechanically easier for foreigners, and aging Korean bw players.

Noone argues this (except mad SC2 fanbois).
But this isn't the point of this thread. This thread is about making BW interesting on a casual level.


No, they left because initially it was something new to try and then stayed because so much more money was available. Kinda hard to justify practicing BW 6-8 hours or more per day only to still be worse than B-team level with only the occasional chance to make some money by having a good run in tournaments like TSL.

I'm pretty confident that if BW had the same amount of money in it as SC2 you would see many foreigners come back and play BW.


I highly doubt there are any foreigners who practice 6-8 hours a day. With the exception of Idra, Ret, and Nony will in Korea.


Exactly my point.

In SC2 though it might be a little more reasonable to do such a thing since you can actually support yourself if your a good player.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
December 06 2011 00:48 GMT
#309
On December 06 2011 08:37 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 06:56 blubbdavid wrote:
On December 06 2011 06:38 zimz wrote:
BW is not popular in west because we keep getting owned so bad vs Koreans(stomped to death). it discourages people and they want to play sc2 instead because its less mechanically demanding. Lets face it this is the reason sc1 pros left in droves to sc2, not because they believe sc2 is more fun. sc2 is just mechanically easier for foreigners, and aging Korean bw players.

Noone argues this (except mad SC2 fanbois).
But this isn't the point of this thread. This thread is about making BW interesting on a casual level.


No, they left because initially it was something new to try and then stayed because so much more money was available. Kinda hard to justify practicing BW 6-8 hours or more per day only to still be worse than B-team level with only the occasional chance to make some money by having a good run in tournaments like TSL.

I'm pretty confident that if BW had the same amount of money in it as SC2 you would see many foreigners come back and play BW.


but i'm pretty sure they would get stomped by koreans. non of the matches would even be close
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
December 06 2011 01:47 GMT
#310
If there was IEM/MLG for BW, I believe many top foreigns would continue to play BW consistently.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
December 06 2011 02:03 GMT
#311
On December 06 2011 10:47 fabiano wrote:
If there was IEM/MLG for BW, I believe many top foreigns would continue to play BW consistently.


There isn't an IEM/MLG because there isn't sufficient spectator interest. We need to fix that first before anything else IMO.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 02:33:56
December 06 2011 02:33 GMT
#312
All the remaining players should gather at one spot. Iccup seems dead nowadays, hardly find any practice partners above C.

Edit: Oh and a OLD BW VOD Night #2 would be nice
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 06 2011 02:54 GMT
#313
On December 06 2011 09:48 leo23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 08:37 L_Master wrote:
On December 06 2011 06:56 blubbdavid wrote:
On December 06 2011 06:38 zimz wrote:
BW is not popular in west because we keep getting owned so bad vs Koreans(stomped to death). it discourages people and they want to play sc2 instead because its less mechanically demanding. Lets face it this is the reason sc1 pros left in droves to sc2, not because they believe sc2 is more fun. sc2 is just mechanically easier for foreigners, and aging Korean bw players.

Noone argues this (except mad SC2 fanbois).
But this isn't the point of this thread. This thread is about making BW interesting on a casual level.


No, they left because initially it was something new to try and then stayed because so much more money was available. Kinda hard to justify practicing BW 6-8 hours or more per day only to still be worse than B-team level with only the occasional chance to make some money by having a good run in tournaments like TSL.

I'm pretty confident that if BW had the same amount of money in it as SC2 you would see many foreigners come back and play BW.


but i'm pretty sure they would get stomped by koreans. non of the matches would even be close


No doubt.

That said it is still possible to be pretty successful even if you can't win tournaments because even lower place finishes make a decent bit of money, and with the rise of more serious team commitments + streaming revenue its quite possible to make some decent money even if you can't actually win tournaments.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
December 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#314
On December 06 2011 11:33 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Edit: Oh and a OLD BW VOD Night #2 would be nice


can this please be done? man Old VOD Night was one of the best things i've ever watched.

btw do u still have the vod for that? i cant find it anywhere
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 08:45:01
December 06 2011 08:44 GMT
#315
So i've been writing BW songs since we need more. I really wanna make videos to go along with them and then put them on TL. anyone have any experience doing this?
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
GeckoVOD
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
December 06 2011 09:27 GMT
#316
On December 06 2011 17:44 puppykiller wrote:
So i've been writing BW songs since we need more. I really wanna make videos to go along with them and then put them on TL. anyone have any experience doing this?


Part I
Part II
Part III
Part IV

... not to thourough but should do the job.
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3126 Posts
December 06 2011 09:32 GMT
#317
On December 06 2011 18:27 Gecko[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 17:44 puppykiller wrote:
So i've been writing BW songs since we need more. I really wanna make videos to go along with them and then put them on TL. anyone have any experience doing this?


Part I
Part II
Part III
Part IV

... not to thourough but should do the job.


zomg its huge!
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 14:56:17
December 06 2011 14:32 GMT
#318
On December 06 2011 13:22 whatusername wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 11:33 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Edit: Oh and a OLD BW VOD Night #2 would be nice


can this please be done? man Old VOD Night was one of the best things i've ever watched.

btw do u still have the vod for that? i cant find it anywhere

Yes I have the vod on my computer, I can upload it to youtube if it's ok with TL admins.

Edit: I am uploading it as we speak, realizing it will probably be fine with Plexa and thedeadhaji. If not: I'll remove it!
Starburst
Profile Joined November 2011
United States108 Posts
April 29 2012 22:23 GMT
#319
Bumping for pertinence to todays issues with BW and this threadBW for Life Thread
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
April 29 2012 22:31 GMT
#320
During the Spring Break I was going to put together a short Bisu/ Flash video based on the proleague game and a couple past performance clips. But by the time I had the videos in a format I could edit, the quality had degraded too much
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