EPT[Spoilers] 2010-2011 Details on Proleague Final - Page 5
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FlaShFTW
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Hier
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On July 25 2011 10:50 oBlade wrote: ...the 2008-2009 grand finals was a two-day event the same as all the playoffs had been. Now, despite that the playoffs involve multiple matches, the GF is only one day, which is both more traditional and a bigger concentration of awesome. Also, the attempt to shepherd Jaedong Oz to the gold trophy didn't actually come through in 08-09 so there was no reason to keep playing multiple days. I think you misunderstood me. | ||
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Deleted User 47542
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
Sig bet? | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
you always seem to suggest signature betting..but meh,I'd take stats vs Bisu over HoeJJa vs Bisu. | ||
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
On July 25 2011 12:54 BLinD-RawR wrote: you always seem to suggest signature betting..but meh,I'd take stats vs Bisu over HoeJJa vs Bisu. Im positive that us as fans will enjoy these events a lot more if we have more things on the line  | ||
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PineappleLumpsToss
New Zealand2434 Posts
On July 25 2011 11:18 Spica wrote: !!!!! That's right!! You gotta keep your promise man, wear your SKT tag loud and proud and voice your support with some good ol' trash talking! Hehe, I'm very aware I agreed to get my trash talking on. However, I remember quite clearly that the agreement was to trash talk in the LR thread. Fear not, for that one thread I'll try and live up to the "obnoxious SKT fan" stigma. | ||
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Caladbolg
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oBlade
United States5589 Posts
Didn't see "the," anyways, in this case the answer's worse because you can just google it. | ||
Spica
United States5582 Posts
On July 25 2011 14:05 PineappleLumpsToss wrote: Hehe, I'm very aware I agreed to get my trash talking on. However, I remember quite clearly that the agreement was to trash talk in the LR thread. Fear not, for that one thread I'll try and live up to the "obnoxious SKT fan" stigma. Yesssss!! Finally we get to see some proper cockiness from you! And that's the spirit! As a SKT fan, you should carry your arrogance proudly in a snide way and look down at all the other teams. No other teams can match SKT's brilliance. That's the attitude that all anti-SKT fans hate, and spirit that all proud SKT fans should carry. ^^ Modesty is almost blasphemy in a SKT vs. KT LR thread, especially the finals! Looking forward to your trash-talking then, a promise is a promise! :D | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
On July 25 2011 08:54 Ciryandor wrote: Fantasy cannot be counted out in the ace selection for SKT, despite his losing form in PL; he has the best prepared vP that anyone can call for to use against Stats (who has had recent losses vs Light and Bogus and is 16-11 this SPL, including 5-4 in WL) in spite of his 3-2 advantage against him, and he has shown he can play a mean vT against Flash (see Bigfile MSL Semifinals) given some preparation. Just to show comparatives of the potential aces of KT: Flash 13-5 v Fantasy (includes 3-2 in Bigfile MSL [6-3 in PL games]) 15-9 v Bisu (includes 3-1 in 2008 Bacchus OSL and 2-0 in ABC Mart MSL [3-3 in PL games]) 5-6 v BeSt (includes 3-0 in NATE MSL [2-5 in PL games]) Stats 3-2 v Fantasy (2-2 in PL games [other win was in MSL Survivor]) 3-0 v Bisu (2-0 in PL games [other win was an OSL prelim]) 2-0 v BeSt (Both in current season's Winners' League) Given these statistics, if Flash were to play, SKT would like to have BeSt, then Bisu, then Fantasy; while if it was Stats playing, Fantasy would undisputably be the best choice. Most of Fantasy's PL losses to Flash were last season, and they have only faced once this season in Winners' League in an epic game on Benzene. TL;DR KT should think of all of BBF as potential ace threats. tl;dr fantasy has an excellent record in important finals and thus is likely to be played for skt's most critical game this year | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On July 25 2011 15:55 Vivi57 wrote: tl;dr fantasy has an excellent record in important finals and thus is likely to be played for skt's most critical game this year Definitely, I would never say that Fantasy > JD or Fantasy > Effort. Play off bo1 ace match ? I'm all in on Fantasy. Against Flash, last time it really counted was that MSL finals and Flash barely (and when I say barely I mean it) took the series 3-2, so I guess that's a 50/50. Bisu's carrier micro still looks bad even though he won recently with it. BeSt is the best weapon against Flash, but if the coach anticipated BeSt and sends Hoejja to snipe him, that would probably be the most embarrassing loss of all time. Anyway, I'm more pumped than ever. Yes, even two weeks before. | ||
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Dakkas
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ArvickHero
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KT vs STX Day 1 + Show Spoiler +  Stats < Icarus >  Bogus HoeJJa < Neo Aztec > CalmBarrackS < Fortress SE > ClassicFlash < Circuit Breaker > LastAction < Alternative > Kal< La Mancha > < New Bloody Ridge > KT vs STX Day 2 + Show Spoiler + Flash < New Empire of the Sun> ShuttleAction < Fortress SE > ClassicCrazy-Hydra < Alternative > ModestyStats < New Bloody Ridge > hyvaa< Neo Aztec > < La Mancha > < Icarus > KT vs STX Day 3 + Show Spoiler + Action < New Bloody Ridge > CalmFlash < New Empire of the Sun > ShuttleHoeJJa < La Mancha > hyvaaBarrackS < Fortress SE > ClassicStats < Icarus > BogusCrazy-Hydra < Alternative > Kal< Neo Aztec > KT vs Woongjin Day 1 + Show Spoiler + KT vs Woongjin Day 2 + Show Spoiler + KT vs Woongjin Day 3 + Show Spoiler + KT vs CJ Day 1 + Show Spoiler + KT vs CJ Day 2 + Show Spoiler + Tempest < Alternative > HydraAction < Circuit Breaker > Horang2HoeJJa < New Bloody Ridge > MovieStats < Icarus > BByongFlash < La Mancha > LetaPerfective < Neo Aztec > Where< New Empire of the Sun > Also PO stats for KT players (too lazy to TLPD-ize sorry : P) + Show Spoiler + Flash (6-3) Circuit Breaker (4-0) New Empire of the Sun (1-1) Icarus (0-1) Fortress SE (1-0) La Mancha (0-1) Stats (5-3) Icarus (2-2) New Bloody Ridge (1-1) New Empire of the Sun (2-0) Hoejja (5-2) Neo Aztec (1-2) La Mancha (1-1) Circuit Breaker (1-0) New Bloody Ridge (2-0) Action (3-5) Circuit Breaker (1-0) New Empire of the Sun (1-0) La Mancha (0-1) New Bloody Ridge (0-3) Fortress SE (0-1) Alternative (1-0) Crazy-Hydra (2-4) Icarus (0-2) Neo Aztec (1-1) Alternative (1-1) BarrackS (2-1) Fortress SE (2-1) Perfective (4-0) La Mancha (1-0) New Empire of the Sun (1-0) Alternative (1-0) Neo Aztec (1-0) Tempest (0-1) Alternative (0-1) My thoughts after skimming over some of the data.. Barracks will probably not be sent again, as he's mainly a TvT sniper, and if Tempest gets sent it will be for some ridiculous cheese. KT sends out Zerg a lot on New EotS, but only because the other team was likely to send a Protoss on that map. Mainly KT likes to send out their Zergs on maps where they think they can avoid Terrans. My predicted SKT lineup:+ Show Spoiler + Set 1 < Neo Beltway > Rain (SKTerrans hate this map, Rain has better vZ than Best) Set 2 < Alternative > Bisu (could switch with Soo) Set 3 < New Bloody Ridge > s2 (s2 very strong at vZ and vP) Set 4 < La Mancha > Soo (Could switch with Bisu) Set 5 < Fortress SE > Best (Will be hoping that its Flash.. or maybe even Barracks) Set 6 < New Empire of the Sun > Fantasy (can hold his ground vFlash, T>>Z map and T=P) Set 7 < Circuit Breaker > | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On July 25 2011 14:16 Caladbolg wrote: The great thing about being an SKT fan is that people actually EXPECT you to be obnoxious, unreasonable, and an unadulterated bandwagoning fanboy. It's the only chance I really get to be proud of being an idiot. Well said, man. That's why i'm proud being a SKT fan. Also, Best and Bisu ftw !!! | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Dakkas
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On July 25 2011 20:15 writer22816 wrote: Why would the SKT coach send Best instead of Bisu lol, similar PvT but Bisu can actually play 2 other matchups as well. He may have sent Best before, but on the ace match of the entire PL finals, Best is definitely not coming out. It will be either Bisu or an ultra-prepared Fantasy. For ace match? The most logical choice for KT is to send Flash and Best is SKT1's best shot at taking him out. In PL, there's only two people that I'd take over Flash and that's Jaedong and Best | ||
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