EPTI'm pretty sure KT will try to pair
Flash vs Bisu
Zergs vs Best, Sun
Temp vs Fantasy
Stats vs T1 zerg
Followed by an epic mindfuck of
Hoejja > Best in Ace
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
I'm pretty sure KT will try to pair Flash vs Bisu Zergs vs Best, Sun Temp vs Fantasy Stats vs T1 zerg Followed by an epic mindfuck of Hoejja > Best in Ace | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
I trust in KT's coaches though, I'm sure they have a plan. | ||
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Hier
2391 Posts
On July 24 2011 17:23 infinitestory wrote: I hear they play only one Bo7 because they were actually losing money when people decided to only show up for the rubber match. For the what match? | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19299 Posts
On July 25 2011 06:51 Lucumo wrote: Terrible photoshop, it wasn't even properly done. Actually it was lol. But now I know who u are cheering for  Bisu time babay!!!! | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On July 25 2011 08:04 moopie wrote: I think Stats in the ace makes the most sense, given CB as the map, with Bisu 7-1 vT, not to mention BeSt (who is the only toss player with decent odds vs Flash on normal maps). Stats vP > Bisu and BeSt, not that it would be a done deal or anything, but the odds favor him. Maybe Flash will prepare something special for the map though. I trust in KT's coaches though, I'm sure they have a plan. Fantasy cannot be counted out in the ace selection for SKT, despite his losing form in PL; he has the best prepared vP that anyone can call for to use against Stats (who has had recent losses vs Light and Bogus and is 16-11 this SPL, including 5-4 in WL) in spite of his 3-2 advantage against him, and he has shown he can play a mean vT against Flash (see Bigfile MSL Semifinals) given some preparation. Just to show comparatives of the potential aces of KT: Flash 13-5 v Fantasy (includes 3-2 in Bigfile MSL [6-3 in PL games]) 15-9 v Bisu (includes 3-1 in 2008 Bacchus OSL and 2-0 in ABC Mart MSL [3-3 in PL games]) 5-6 v BeSt (includes 3-0 in NATE MSL [2-5 in PL games]) Stats 3-2 v Fantasy (2-2 in PL games [other win was in MSL Survivor]) 3-0 v Bisu (2-0 in PL games [other win was an OSL prelim]) 2-0 v BeSt (Both in current season's Winners' League) Given these statistics, if Flash were to play, SKT would like to have BeSt, then Bisu, then Fantasy; while if it was Stats playing, Fantasy would undisputably be the best choice. Most of Fantasy's PL losses to Flash were last season, and they have only faced once this season in Winners' League in an epic game on Benzene. TL;DR KT should think of all of BBF as potential ace threats. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On July 25 2011 08:52 BisuDagger wrote: Actually it was lol. But now I know who u are cheering for Bisu time babay!!!! The time isn't even properly done man, it's supposed to be 16:30 or something like that. | ||
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VGhost
United States3616 Posts
You mean like this? (And if you haven't watched this game before you ought to, no matter who your favorite team/player is or who you're rooting for in Shanghai.) | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On July 25 2011 08:56 Ciryandor wrote: The time isn't even properly done man, it's supposed to be 16:30 or something like that. 18:00 | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On July 25 2011 08:56 Ciryandor wrote: The time isn't even properly done man, it's supposed to be 16:30 or something like that. I was talking about the positioning, the whole SKT thing is one line/pixel up. | ||
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Vuk_91
Serbia1690 Posts
On July 25 2011 08:04 moopie wrote: I think Stats in the ace makes the most sense, given CB as the map, with Bisu 7-1 vT, not to mention BeSt (who is the only toss player with decent odds vs Flash on normal maps). Stats vP > Bisu and BeSt, not that it would be a done deal or anything, but the odds favor him. Maybe Flash will prepare something special for the map though. I trust in KT's coaches though, I'm sure they have a plan. Bisu has 64% vsP in his career while Stats is at 62% so don`t tell he has better vsP. Flash will be sent as ACE,everything else except that is just stupid. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On July 25 2011 09:33 Vuk_91 wrote: Bisu has 64% vsP in his career while Stats is at 62% so don`t tell he has better vsP. Flash will be sent as ACE,everything else except that is just stupid. Bisu got trashed by Stats several times already. Looking at his vPs this past year I don't see a single worthy opponent he won over since Horang2 in Feb. (1). I'm not really trying to convince anyone, so you don't need to be defensive, just offering my opinion. | ||
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MattRz
Chile1680 Posts
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PineappleLumpsToss
New Zealand2434 Posts
On July 24 2011 18:44 gngfn wrote: If anything, SKT has had a month for each of their players to prepare multiple builds for different contingencies. Remember how well-prepared KT seemed last year when SKT had to fight their way through the playoffs to face them? The other team this time hasn't gotten to see SKT play at all in a month, whereas SKT has seen them, and I have to imagine that Oov has been analyzing and scheming nonstop. Furthermore, while this advantage would still apply if there were multiple Bo7s, it's actually amplified with only one, because the other team won't have any chance to adjust to SKT's builds. Well said. This is my feeling as well. Last year SKT was on a roll, but they were also pretty tired as well. If you've read the KT manager's interviews of late, as well as the players, they've all mentioned how they're looking forward to some recovery time. At this stage of the PL recovery and preparation time is just as important as momentum. I'm looking forward to see whether SKT can return the favour to KT, and effectively come prepared to snipe particular players and their favoured builds. KT did it beautifully last year, so the challenge will be for Coach Park to do the same this time round. SKT is renowned for its preparation, so I'd be disappointed if we didn't see that reflected on the day. | ||
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oBlade
United States5780 Posts
...the 2008-2009 grand finals was a two-day event the same as all the playoffs had been. Now, despite that the playoffs involve multiple matches, the GF is only one day, which is both more traditional and a bigger concentration of awesome. Also, the attempt to shepherd Jaedong Oz to the gold trophy didn't actually come through in 08-09 so there was no reason to keep playing multiple days. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:42 PineappleLumpsToss wrote: Well said. This is my feeling as well. Last year SKT was on a roll, but they were also pretty tired as well. If you've read the KT manager's interviews of late, as well as the players, they've all mentioned how they're looking forward to some recovery time. At this stage of the PL recovery and preparation time is just as important as momentum. I'm looking forward to see whether SKT can return the favour to KT, and effectively come prepared to snipe particular players and their favoured builds. KT did it beautifully last year, so the challenge will be for Coach Park to do the same this time round. SKT is renowned for its preparation, so I'd be disappointed if we didn't see that reflected on the day. Eh, d'ya remember that you gotta do some trash-talking now that KT made it to the final? :D | ||
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Cheeseburgered
United States716 Posts
On July 25 2011 09:33 Vuk_91 wrote: Bisu has 64% vsP in his career while Stats is at 62% so don`t tell he has better vsP. Flash will be sent as ACE,everything else except that is just stupid. Because statistics mean everything right? | ||
Spica
United States5582 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:52 Holgerius wrote: Eh, d'ya remember that you gotta do some trash-talking now that KT made it to the final? :D !!!!! That's right!! You gotta keep your promise man, wear your SKT tag loud and proud and voice your support with some good ol' trash talking! | ||
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