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On July 26 2011 20:55 _romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 19:28 Kipsate wrote:On July 26 2011 18:51 Gummy wrote:On July 26 2011 18:20 _romantic wrote:On July 26 2011 17:47 Lightwip wrote:On July 26 2011 17:43 _romantic wrote:On July 26 2011 17:16 Lightwip wrote:On July 26 2011 12:27 Katsuge wrote:
well KT has proven in recent playoffs that their opponents will somehow underperform..(just look at horang2 and movie's stats prior to playoffs)..i wonder if the same will happen to SKT.
We just have to wait and see :D To be fair though, CJ, Stars, and Khan are teams that have some sort of obligation to fail in the largest of stages. This isn't the first time all of those teams choked. Surely it's their fault for choking and not KT's fault for stepping up. I remember you singing a very, very different tune when those same teams lost to SKT last year. Actually no, you're pretty much lying right now. SKT didn't play those teams in PO. Glad to have the biggest KTroll back I guess. It was a nice 5 months of peace. You've always been a bigger troll than me, Lightwip. You pretty much define passive-aggressive posting on TL net. One of these days I'm going to go down your post history and see how many times I can find that sort of behavior. =D Speaking of going down your post history, I believe a quick look at yours will reveal that you have double-posted. For shame. OT: SKT winning this is probably most plausible because KTFlash is looking particularly vulnerable. Even in a format such as Winner's League, SKT was able to bring the depth of their team into play against KT's one-man monsoon, and the whole thing was over in a Flash. KT hasn't been a oneman team in the playoffs. Quite true--KT has depth, although the deck is probably still stacked in SKT's favor since they have a very strategic coach and players notoriously good at execution (rf. Kingdom's discussion about Bisu). To be honest, KT vs SKT isn't about one man teams--it's about Flash vs. Oov, the current Terran genius vs. the Terran genius of old, an asymmetrical fight between one really great player who gets to directly shape how two rounds go vs. another great player who gets to shape how each round might be fought.
It is ONE Bo7 man. 2 direct chances for Flash, 7 indirect chances for oov, if you want to put it that way.
Here's the rub. IMO KT will have to win with 2 Zergs to win it all, it would be stressful at best to win it on ace with Flash not in tiptop shape and much as I prefer to see a 100% Flash doing the ace match; we don't have that luxury today. Conversely, if SKT wants to win this, at least 2 of their second line (s2, soO, maybe Hyuk and by.sun) of players have to get wins; as they can't rely on BBF getting three wins (either via snipes or simply bad match-ups).
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Can Oov still play league games or is he a full time coach now?
I will donate all my savings to PL if both coaches sends Reach and Oov respectively for the grand finals ace, hoping for a 2001 old school style 1 vs 1 base PvT.
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On July 27 2011 01:39 Ravencruiser wrote:
Can Oov still play league games or is he a full time coach now?
I will donate all my savings to PL if both coaches sends Reach and Oov respectively for the grand finals ace, hoping for a 2001 old school style 1 vs 1 base PvT.
Unfortunately oov can no longer play. But if they let stargirls play in the all star game, I will continue to hope to see him there one day.
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Well theres
Set 4 < La Mancha >
Set 5 < Fortress SE >
Set 6 < New Empire of the Sun >
3 terran maps in a row so Barracks and Flash could do a lot of damage here, hard to see SKT winning the title unless they get an early lead in sets 1-3 to compensate.
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Mortality--based on these maps here can you take your analysis from the PR and see what maps players are like to come out on?
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On July 27 2011 12:10 xarthaz wrote:
Well theres
Set 4 < La Mancha >
Set 5 < Fortress SE >
Set 6 < New Empire of the Sun >
3 terran maps in a row so Barracks and Flash could do a lot of damage here, hard to see SKT winning the title unless they get an early lead in sets 1-3 to compensate.
Of course Flash can always deal terrible damage, but i cant agree with Barracks. The way i see it, most players on SKT can give him a good run for his money.
FBB pretty much guarantees a win over Barracks. I think by.Sun is good enough to take him, esp on EotS or La Mancha. And given SoO's recent game vs Sea, i would like to think that SoO is favoured vs Barracks as well.. So 1 game.. But Flash probably takes the game he plays anw, regardless of maps.
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On July 27 2011 01:42 hacklebeast wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 01:39 Ravencruiser wrote:
Can Oov still play league games or is he a full time coach now?
I will donate all my savings to PL if both coaches sends Reach and Oov respectively for the grand finals ace, hoping for a 2001 old school style 1 vs 1 base PvT. Unfortunately oov can no longer play. But if they let stargirls play in the all star game, I will continue to hope to see him there one day.
oov gonna use a strat he was going to have Fantasy use instead, then we see him doing his cheater macro all over again. LOL
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On July 27 2011 01:01 Ciryandor wrote:
It is ONE Bo7 man. 2 direct chances for Flash, 7 indirect chances for oov, if you want to put it that way.
Here's the rub. IMO KT will have to win with 2 Zergs to win it all, it would be stressful at best to win it on ace with Flash not in tiptop shape and much as I prefer to see a 100% Flash doing the ace match; we don't have that luxury today. Conversely, if SKT wants to win this, at least 2 of their second line (s2, soO, maybe Hyuk and by.sun) of players have to get wins; as they can't rely on BBF getting three wins (either via snipes or simply bad match-ups).
I see what you did there... 
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According to Fomos, Jaedong and Tossgirl will attend the finals !
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I think Best is going to be SKT's ace no matter what, just like he was going to be last year
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??? sorry but WHEN is this match? is it tomorrow night!?!?
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On July 29 2011 15:25 TheNessman wrote:
??? sorry but WHEN is this match? is it tomorrow night!?!?
On July 24 2011 16:41 Ryo wrote:
6th August Century Square, Nanjing Road, Shanghai China
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On July 29 2011 06:58 Ikonn wrote:
I think Best is going to be SKT's ace no matter what, just like he was going to be last year
I dont know about that. I think that SKT's and KT's players forms going into this Grand Finals are wayyy different from that of last year.
BeSt was on a huge vT tear last year (up to early this season), Bisu was... fresh off a longgg slump. This season though, things are completely different, almost opposite. So i dont agree that BeSt is as definite an Ace choice as you think.
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On July 29 2011 16:07 ffreakk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 06:58 Ikonn wrote:
I think Best is going to be SKT's ace no matter what, just like he was going to be last year I dont know about that. I think that SKT's and KT's players forms going into this Grand Finals are wayyy different from that of last year. BeSt was on a huge vT tear last year (up to early this season), Bisu was... fresh off a longgg slump. This season though, things are completely different, almost opposite. So i dont agree that BeSt is as definite an Ace choice as you think.
but you have to think about ACE options, Flash is on everyone's mind, and Stats is a decent surprise, both of these players are known to be good against Bisu, its just not a smart choice cos KT wont be sending zergs for proleague ace, What SKT really needs to focus on is the players other than bisu and best, cos a lot of people have been distracted by Flash's ace threat and gets owned 4-2 by the zerg line
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Rain is gonna be T1's ace ... anyone remember the Sea lesson? that's right
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On July 29 2011 17:21 nayumi wrote:
Rain is gonna be T1's ace ... anyone remember the Sea lesson? that's right
Hellz yeah Sun gonna tear up shit in the finals and carry his team to victory.
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SKT 4-2 Fantasy > Hoejja last set and Hoejja goes home crying. ^^
Yes, just like last season.
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On July 29 2011 18:02 seRapH wrote:
SKT 4-2 Fantasy > Hoejja last set and Hoejja goes home crying. ^^
Yes, just like last season.
?? last season SKT got raped hard by KT tosses
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On July 29 2011 18:06 Katsuge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 18:02 seRapH wrote:
SKT 4-2 Fantasy > Hoejja last set and Hoejja goes home crying. ^^
Yes, just like last season. ?? last season SKT got raped hard by KT tosses
I was referring to Hyuk vs Flash. I'm not that old yet.
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EPT
