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[Spoilers] 2010-2011 Details on Proleague Final - Page 7

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gueva RA
Profile Joined July 2011
Ukraine19 Posts
July 25 2011 20:19 GMT
#121
On July 24 2011 16:43 doothegee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Isn't this post itself a giant spoiler, seeing that if CJ won, there would be no map order?

And interesting that SKT removed Icarus.

Why is there new map order if KT won, and same maps if CJ won?
Ra!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 20:24:46
July 25 2011 20:24 GMT
#122
+ Show Spoiler +
The map bans makes perfect sense, I just wish that SKT1 didn't ban Icarus cus it had many good games on it, despite the imbalance

It makes sense though, Stats and Flash often play the map along with Action, which makes it near impossible to predict for
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8079 Posts
July 25 2011 20:44 GMT
#123
As a KT fan I can say SKT zergs scare me only because Action Roo and Hoejja can't ZvZ well...
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
July 25 2011 22:02 GMT
#124
On July 26 2011 05:19 gueva RA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:43 doothegee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Isn't this post itself a giant spoiler, seeing that if CJ won, there would be no map order?

And interesting that SKT removed Icarus.

Why is there new map order if KT won, and same maps if CJ won?

There would have been no map order if CJ won, because then the series would have been 1-1.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 26 2011 00:27 GMT
#125
On July 26 2011 05:44 Vasoline73 wrote:
As a KT fan I can say SKT zergs scare me only because Action Roo and Hoejja can't ZvZ well...


Fear SKT. The team is overall so strong this time around. No easy victory for KT this year! But seriously, this is the best of 3 BO7s right?
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 26 2011 00:31 GMT
#126
Nope, 1 Bo7 for it all.
Remember Violet.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 26 2011 00:33 GMT
#127
On July 26 2011 09:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Nope, 1 Bo7 for it all.


Man, am I the only one not liking this format? I mean, you have the quarterfinals and semifinals as 3 sets of BO7s and for the GRAND FINAL, you have one?
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 00:38:20
July 26 2011 00:37 GMT
#128
On July 26 2011 09:33 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Nope, 1 Bo7 for it all.


Man, am I the only one not liking this format? I mean, you have the quarterfinals and semifinals as 3 sets of BO7s and for the GRAND FINAL, you have one?


It's supposed to increase the excitement. There's more pressure when it's all one big event. Also, you don't want people booking plane tickets to China for the 3rd night and then one of the teams wins 2-0, lol.

But yeah, it's kind of unfortunate in that we don't get as many games :/
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 00:44:17
July 26 2011 00:43 GMT
#129
On July 26 2011 09:33 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Nope, 1 Bo7 for it all.


Man, am I the only one not liking this format? I mean, you have the quarterfinals and semifinals as 3 sets of BO7s and for the GRAND FINAL, you have one?


It is weird, but it adds a level of excitement that only happens if the Bo3 goes all of the way. But more importantly, it's not possible to book a beach for three different days, and one day on the beach is definitely better than a 3 day match in the studio.

They could do a Bo3 Bo7 on the beach in one day, but that would be so much starcraft.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 26 2011 00:46 GMT
#130
On July 26 2011 09:43 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:33 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 26 2011 09:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Nope, 1 Bo7 for it all.


Man, am I the only one not liking this format? I mean, you have the quarterfinals and semifinals as 3 sets of BO7s and for the GRAND FINAL, you have one?


It is weird, but it adds a level of excitement that only happens if the Bo3 goes all of the way. But more importantly, it's not possible to book a beach for three different days, and one day on the beach is definitely better than a 3 day match in the studio.

They could do a Bo3 Bo7 on the beach in one day, but that would be so much starcraft.

and with 6 1 hour TvTs (2 per bo7 including ace match and assuming they send fantasy), flash would lose his hand lol
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xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 26 2011 00:59 GMT
#131
On July 26 2011 09:37 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:33 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 26 2011 09:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Nope, 1 Bo7 for it all.


Man, am I the only one not liking this format? I mean, you have the quarterfinals and semifinals as 3 sets of BO7s and for the GRAND FINAL, you have one?


It's supposed to increase the excitement. There's more pressure when it's all one big event. Also, you don't want people booking plane tickets to China for the 3rd night and then one of the teams wins 2-0, lol.

But yeah, it's kind of unfortunate in that we don't get as many games :/


Yah I see the point there. I guess it's true, but I'd still like 3 sets if the finals were held in Korea... much more content
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 03:30:09
July 26 2011 03:21 GMT
#132
On July 26 2011 09:46 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:43 hacklebeast wrote:
On July 26 2011 09:33 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 26 2011 09:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Nope, 1 Bo7 for it all.


Man, am I the only one not liking this format? I mean, you have the quarterfinals and semifinals as 3 sets of BO7s and for the GRAND FINAL, you have one?


It is weird, but it adds a level of excitement that only happens if the Bo3 goes all of the way. But more importantly, it's not possible to book a beach for three different days, and one day on the beach is definitely better than a 3 day match in the studio.

They could do a Bo3 Bo7 on the beach in one day, but that would be so much starcraft.

and with 6 1 hour TvTs (2 per bo7 including ace match and assuming they send fantasy), flash would lose his hand lol


Well, if that worst case scenario happens, he is still only practicing half of his original 12 hours a day.

I kind of want to see this now, just once. 21 games (max) with a 30 minute average run time is an 11 hour block. That's not THAT bad, and they could use the extra add revenue to help compensate for feeding the crowd at some point like they do at the all star game.

Or maybe the do something creative, like have both teams split their rosters into two teams, then have two simultanious Bo5s, and then if tied it moves on to a best of 7 for the championship.

Or maybe like a winners leauge, but first to 7 instead of 4, and you have the option to take back your player if they won, and use them later. '

C'mon, think outside the box on this one.

Edit: One more. Winner of the first set gets one point, winner of second gets 2 points...Seven sets total, teams with the most points at the end wins, no repeating players in any of the sets.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
July 26 2011 03:27 GMT
#133
well KT has proven in recent playoffs that their opponents will somehow underperform..(just look at horang2 and movie's stats prior to playoffs)..i wonder if the same will happen to SKT.

We just have to wait and see :D
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
July 26 2011 03:32 GMT
#134
Hmm wow, KT has insane momentum going into this and I'm scared for SKT. I am really hoping Fantasy will be in form, and bisu can beat either stats or Flash (revenge)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
July 26 2011 07:31 GMT
#135
On July 26 2011 12:32 dRaW wrote:
Hmm wow, KT has insane momentum going into this and I'm scared for SKT. I am really hoping Fantasy will be in form, and bisu can beat either stats or Flash (revenge)


Bisu > Stats or Flash is not likely because of two reasons:

1) Gameplay--Flash's TvP and Stats' PvP are both pretty good, and Stats seems to have Bisu's number in PvPs (remember their game on Bloody Ridge? Both got into late game pretty even but then Stats proceeded to kill Bisu's maxed army over and over again with much better positioning and micro, which should have been Bisu's strong suit).

2) Coaching--I doubt SKT's coaches will be that retarded to send Bisu looking for Flash or Stats. If anything, Bisu will be sent out on a Z-favored map (like Alternative) to snipe down Action, and then be reserved for Ace (if it comes down to it).

Although I am looking forward to Flash and Stats playing Bisu as well, for different reasons
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 26 2011 08:16 GMT
#136
On July 26 2011 12:27 Katsuge wrote:
well KT has proven in recent playoffs that their opponents will somehow underperform..(just look at horang2 and movie's stats prior to playoffs)..i wonder if the same will happen to SKT.

We just have to wait and see :D

To be fair though, CJ, Stars, and Khan are teams that have some sort of obligation to fail in the largest of stages. This isn't the first time all of those teams choked.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 26 2011 08:19 GMT
#137
On July 26 2011 04:35 Jindo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 23:54 Sawamura wrote:

I want to see a bo5 of Shine v Bisu lets see how many time bisu can cannon rush and not die to hydra all in gg bisu fan's cry.

To be honest you're not that different from a raging, crying bisu fan.
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:03 Sawamura wrote:

FUCK YOU AND YOUR HATRED AGAINST KT YOU BIAS BASTARD

User was warned for this post

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 19:23 Sawamura wrote:

Same here bro >< I can't believe flash lost T_T



who cares sue me
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
July 26 2011 08:34 GMT
#138
On July 26 2011 17:19 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 04:35 Jindo wrote:
On July 25 2011 23:54 Sawamura wrote:

I want to see a bo5 of Shine v Bisu lets see how many time bisu can cannon rush and not die to hydra all in gg bisu fan's cry.

To be honest you're not that different from a raging, crying bisu fan.
On July 24 2011 16:03 Sawamura wrote:

FUCK YOU AND YOUR HATRED AGAINST KT YOU BIAS BASTARD

User was warned for this post

On December 16 2010 19:23 Sawamura wrote:

Same here bro >< I can't believe flash lost T_T



who cares sue me


Well obviously you care if you're whining all the time
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 26 2011 08:38 GMT
#139
On July 26 2011 17:34 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 17:19 Sawamura wrote:
On July 26 2011 04:35 Jindo wrote:
On July 25 2011 23:54 Sawamura wrote:

I want to see a bo5 of Shine v Bisu lets see how many time bisu can cannon rush and not die to hydra all in gg bisu fan's cry.

To be honest you're not that different from a raging, crying bisu fan.
On July 24 2011 16:03 Sawamura wrote:

FUCK YOU AND YOUR HATRED AGAINST KT YOU BIAS BASTARD

User was warned for this post

On December 16 2010 19:23 Sawamura wrote:

Same here bro >< I can't believe flash lost T_T



who cares sue me


Well obviously you care if you're whining all the time


oh sure i care lol
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
July 26 2011 08:43 GMT
#140
On July 26 2011 17:16 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 12:27 Katsuge wrote:
well KT has proven in recent playoffs that their opponents will somehow underperform..(just look at horang2 and movie's stats prior to playoffs)..i wonder if the same will happen to SKT.

We just have to wait and see :D

To be fair though, CJ, Stars, and Khan are teams that have some sort of obligation to fail in the largest of stages. This isn't the first time all of those teams choked.


Surely it's their fault for choking and not KT's fault for stepping up.

I remember you singing a very, very different tune when those same teams lost to SKT last year.
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
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