EPTDid SC2 lead you to watching BW? - Page 6
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On June 27 2011 06:11 Dalguno wrote: How do you guys recommend learning/watching BW? What are some good streams? GomTV classics with tastless Commentators: Cholera Diggity Moletrap Klazart Nukethestars | ||
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Rococo
United States331 Posts
On June 27 2011 04:26 Gotmog wrote: Not true. You probably can't see it, because you are so used to bw. But for a new spectator, bw is unwatchable. Unwatchable in what way? You can always clearly distinguish team colors, units are generally spaced out and don't clip into each other, death animations are exaggerated and either bright blue, bright red, or bright yellow, and units and buildings are always brightly lit, regardless of the map. I think you're just talking about a bias some people have against low resolution 2D, because the problem isn't visual clarity. Or perhaps people new to the game are just not able to immediately recognize unit silhouettes, but that's a barrier to watching SC2 as well. Now, if you want to talk about (borderline) unwatchable, for me it's SC2 ZvZ on Xel'Naga Caverns on a low resolution stream with health bars enabled. Absolute torture. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On June 27 2011 06:21 Rococo wrote: Unwatchable in what way? You can always clearly distinguish team colors, units are generally spaced out and don't clip into each other, death animations are exaggerated and either bright blue, bright red, or bright yellow, and units and buildings are always brightly lit, regardless of the map. I think you're just talking about a bias some people have against low resolution 2D, because the problem isn't visual clarity. If you want to talk about (borderline) unwatchable, it's SC2 ZvZ on Xel'Naga Caverns on a low resolution stream with health bars enabled. Absolute torture. Hmm I actually agree that the colors could be brightened and made less "realistic" for team paint jobs, but all in all the game isn't as fun to watch as an unbiased new viewer. I tried watching some pro BW games - don't get me wrong, the players were probably much more skilled and whatnot than SC2 players - but it just wasn't as good of a game to watch. I can see why SC2 is gaining viewers and BW seems to be losing them (according to the numbers on streams, youtube, tournys, etc - not including in Korea/live) | ||
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
On June 27 2011 06:25 FallDownMarigold wrote: Hmm I actually agree that the colors could be brightened and made less "realistic" for team paint jobs, but all in all the game isn't as fun to watch as an unbiased new viewer. I tried watching some pro BW games - don't get me wrong, the players were probably much more skilled and whatnot than SC2 players - but it just wasn't as good of a game to watch. I can see why SC2 is gaining viewers and BW seems to be losing them (according to the numbers on streams, youtube, tournys, etc - not including in Korea/live) For you maybe. I started watching BW in 2007, kinda stopped watching it around the time that I started playing the SC2 beta but over time professional sc2 fustrated me to the point where I only watch BW now. For me it's a far better game to watch(aside from the 40 minute+ TvTs). Also for SC2 gaining viewers is because it's a hot new thing. People are dumb sheep who only like things that are contemporary and have this weird disdain for older generation graphics even though to me BW looks perfect. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
i was always a big esports guy. i followed an esport about 4 months for every game i played. dota -> cs -> hon -> wow etc | ||
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L3gendary
Canada1470 Posts
When I first started watching BW I hated mid-late game and special units and abilities because it got confusing. When I became more accustomed to the mechanics I had a much greater appreciation for what I saw. That's why people who have played both games will tell you they prefer bw art design and clarity whereas people who are new to starcraft will be turned off by the graphics. | ||
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AnxiousHippo
Australia1451 Posts
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Arterial
Australia1039 Posts
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Kong John
Denmark1020 Posts
My soul does feel a sting every now and then though... | ||
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herberckl
Germany117 Posts
On June 27 2011 06:13 Kipsate wrote: GomTV classics with tastless Commentators: Cholera Diggity Moletrap Klazart Nukethestars i would really recommend Nukethestars out of all of those guys. Maybe not so much educational but he is very funny and eloquent and definitely the most entertaining  | ||
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SYNC_qx
Germany197 Posts
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
To even only watch highly recommended games at the highest level requires a lot of time for either game, so I never watch SC2. | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On June 27 2011 06:11 Dalguno wrote: How do you guys recommend learning/watching BW? What are some good streams? tip: you can't really learn from watching professional BW. Sure, you can try your best to mimic pro strats but if you don't understand the logic behind them or know how to tweak them to surprising turn of events, it's kind of pointless. If you want to learn, just mass games on iccup. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
I remember I overslept for the OSL final between Flash and Effort and I felt like my world was crumbling lol. Then I looked at the results and I was so emo for like a week cause I wasn't there to cheer for him. ><" I still watch the major events though like the recent MSL finals and when some big teams play each other. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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nVusPip
United Kingdom260 Posts
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
I try and have a BW stream on if I can find one and I'm not already watching an SC2 Tournament. There are few SC2 streamers I would watch over most of the BW ones, part of it is that I want to support them so they keep doing it, but I like watching BW a lot too. And watching it can help your basic fundamental strategies (like when to attack, and from where). Savior streams are the best hahaha. | ||
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Dane S
Australia84 Posts
at first i was like why do they still play it, it's old! but now that i have been exploring it i see how good it is to watch and how imo sc2 has not reproduced much of if any of the quality bw has so yes sc2 got me into watching bw and i wish i had known about it long ago | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
I find that most things look pretty similar so I dont see how it can be unwatchable if you play SC2 a bit. Most units and buildings look the same with the exception of the few things unique to each games. | ||
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