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leecH
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 19:22:52
June 26 2011 19:22 GMT
#81
i played bw for maybe 200 games (5 years ago?!) but switched back to my fps i was competing at that said time. i knew about TL back then and about progaming in korea but i just was occupied with different things. now is started SC2. i sometimes watch SC1 streams featured on TL. it´s fun and i wish i´d stick to play it back in the day. but i feel really stupid when watching it because i forgot everything about it and have no clue and korean commentating for example does not exactly help me out ;D
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
June 26 2011 19:26 GMT
#82
On June 27 2011 02:22 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 01:46 Daimai wrote:
I started playing in SC2, but I just can't get into watching BW. The bad graphics make it hard to understand what's going on for a newbie.


That is what I don't get , despite the ''outdated'' graphics everything has much more clarity in BW. whenever a big battle occurs in SC2 its fucking lasorsz and shit all over my screen I can't see jack shit, its 2 balls engaging in a space the size of a cardbox.

Not true.
You probably can't see it, because you are so used to bw.
But for a new spectator, bw is unwatchable.
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
June 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#83
On June 27 2011 04:26 Gotmog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 02:22 Kipsate wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:46 Daimai wrote:
I started playing in SC2, but I just can't get into watching BW. The bad graphics make it hard to understand what's going on for a newbie.


That is what I don't get , despite the ''outdated'' graphics everything has much more clarity in BW. whenever a big battle occurs in SC2 its fucking lasorsz and shit all over my screen I can't see jack shit, its 2 balls engaging in a space the size of a cardbox.

Not true.
You probably can't see it, because you are so used to bw.
But for a new spectator, bw is unwatchable.


While I disagree with you wholeheartedly, I would just like to state that this thread has nothing to do with graphics, or arguing over which is better.

I dislike the polling method and find that it will prove close to nothing as it is not covering an impartial demographic (what do you expect BW forum goers to say...), and that the choices in the poll are opinionated (Don't caps anything, and give the audience all possible desired choices, hell a 1-5 system would do better than this).
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
June 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#84
On June 27 2011 04:26 Gotmog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 02:22 Kipsate wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:46 Daimai wrote:
I started playing in SC2, but I just can't get into watching BW. The bad graphics make it hard to understand what's going on for a newbie.


That is what I don't get , despite the ''outdated'' graphics everything has much more clarity in BW. whenever a big battle occurs in SC2 its fucking lasorsz and shit all over my screen I can't see jack shit, its 2 balls engaging in a space the size of a cardbox.

Not true.
You probably can't see it, because you are so used to bw.
But for a new spectator, bw is unwatchable.


You're probably right. I remember I hadn't played BW for a few years and when I tried it again I was like "Wow, I remember these graphics being so much better when I was a little kid!"
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 26 2011 19:40 GMT
#85
Since i found out about TL when the Sc2 beta came out,i started playing BW for fun and became totally hooked on the BW proleague.Bisu was so baller today<3
Cackle™
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
June 26 2011 19:41 GMT
#86
SC2 has effected me watching BW as regularly. I'll always love the BW scene more, but being able to understand [English] commentaries, even if they're slightly less effective, has lead to me watching more and more SC2.
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
June 26 2011 19:49 GMT
#87
SC2 made me appreciate professional Brood War even more. Unlike SC2, I am just in awe of what the pros can do. When I watch SC2 I just want to steal builds to copy. When I watch SCBW I am looking to watch something I cannot replicate.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
June 26 2011 20:06 GMT
#88
On June 27 2011 04:26 Gotmog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 02:22 Kipsate wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:46 Daimai wrote:
I started playing in SC2, but I just can't get into watching BW. The bad graphics make it hard to understand what's going on for a newbie.


That is what I don't get , despite the ''outdated'' graphics everything has much more clarity in BW. whenever a big battle occurs in SC2 its fucking lasorsz and shit all over my screen I can't see jack shit, its 2 balls engaging in a space the size of a cardbox.

Not true.
You probably can't see it, because you are so used to bw.
But for a new spectator, bw is unwatchable.


The number of people in this thread who started watching BW after Sc2 came out likely disagree with your claim that BW is unwatchable.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
June 26 2011 20:07 GMT
#89
On June 27 2011 04:26 Gotmog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 02:22 Kipsate wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:46 Daimai wrote:
I started playing in SC2, but I just can't get into watching BW. The bad graphics make it hard to understand what's going on for a newbie.


That is what I don't get , despite the ''outdated'' graphics everything has much more clarity in BW. whenever a big battle occurs in SC2 its fucking lasorsz and shit all over my screen I can't see jack shit, its 2 balls engaging in a space the size of a cardbox.

Not true.
You probably can't see it, because you are so used to bw.
But for a new spectator, bw is unwatchable.

I started watching BW a year ago. It didn't seem dated to me.

The graphics in BW are very clear. New graphics doesn't necessarily make it easier to watch. I have no trouble playing NHL96 on SNES, but NHL97 on PS1 makes my eyes hurt, because it came from the first era of 3D-games, so it's obviously not as well done as the graphics from the late 2D era.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 26 2011 20:10 GMT
#90
There is an option missing like "SC2 made me watch less BW" because the second option is too extreme for my case. I still watch BW from time to time on Nuke and Dejavu's channel. Any other recommendable BW casters?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 26 2011 20:21 GMT
#91
On June 27 2011 05:06 deafhobbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 04:26 Gotmog wrote:
On June 27 2011 02:22 Kipsate wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:46 Daimai wrote:
I started playing in SC2, but I just can't get into watching BW. The bad graphics make it hard to understand what's going on for a newbie.


That is what I don't get , despite the ''outdated'' graphics everything has much more clarity in BW. whenever a big battle occurs in SC2 its fucking lasorsz and shit all over my screen I can't see jack shit, its 2 balls engaging in a space the size of a cardbox.

Not true.
You probably can't see it, because you are so used to bw.
But for a new spectator, bw is unwatchable.


The number of people in this thread who started watching BW after Sc2 came out likely disagree with your claim that BW is unwatchable.


Its not unwatchable but,it really is a hard adjustment if you never watched these kind of games before.
It took me 6 months to start understanding what is going on,at first i gave up because its quite hard to get into BW right now if you don't dedicate yourself too it,but when I started watching some moletrap casts i started to understand many things that i couldn't understand before
and I think that is the prime reason that there's less and less influx on new BW watchers.

When the Sc2 Beta came out day9 with King of the Beta and Husky were my gateway to Starcraft.
Unfortunately people do not have those kind of things for BW here anymore.
Cackle™
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 26 2011 20:23 GMT
#92
I feel like people on the BW forum are more likely than not to watch Brood War.

On June 27 2011 05:10 JustPassingBy wrote:
There is an option missing like "SC2 made me watch less BW" because the second option is too extreme for my case.


I think this might be more common. I cut down on BW quite a bit after SC2, because I actually like that the game is sloppy and unevolved, because I like to be surprised by evolutions in the metagame and I like watching it grow.

I think a more interesting poll would be who watches both games, and how is their time skewed.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 26 2011 20:26 GMT
#93
SC+BW<333 but me bad / no comp [..decade pause..] SC2? -> SC1 memories -> Liquipedia / Day9's BW podcasts -> TL -> Korean pro-scene -> So I was right all along, that SC is the best game ever!

So for me both directions are valid: BW->SC2 and SC2->BW. And I would always be thankful to Day9 for his patient podcasts; all Liquipedia contributors; and the TL community. But definitely, it could be said that the announcement of SC2 (before beta) brought me back to my early unfinished passion for Starcraft, and helped me learn about the Korean pro-scene; I've watched all OSL finals etc.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
June 26 2011 20:26 GMT
#94
I want to watch BW just because it looks so epic, but starting from not knowing anything about it might be a li'l difficult.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 26 2011 20:32 GMT
#95
I still follow the BW scene to this day. Just not as much x-x
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
June 26 2011 20:35 GMT
#96
The first time I watched bw was back when tasteless was commentating gomtv after having seen the slayer documentary. I only watched a few games per year up til like 2009.

Now that I've played sc2, it made me appreciate the play much more. I kinda only watch flash and jaedong (with some bisu games here and there), but I can now pay more attention and realize much more what they're actually doing.

I used to just watch it as a typical casual player perspective rather then having an idea what's going on, and it's way more interesting now. I recently started watching some games of nada, savior and iloveoov that I haven't seen in a while, and to get a feel of the differences in playstyle.
I speak fluent sarcasm.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19297 Posts
June 26 2011 20:50 GMT
#97
On June 27 2011 04:40 TheKefka wrote:
Since i found out about TL when the Sc2 beta came out,i started playing BW for fun and became totally hooked on the BW proleague.Bisu was so baller today<3

Best post yet. Been watching BW since 2006, and that will never end even though I watch sc2, I only watch sc2 semi/finals matches. I only like seeing the best of the best play.
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 20:56:46
June 26 2011 20:56 GMT
#98
Watch every BW event, PL, MSL, OSL, etc.

I only watch SC2 when Zerg plays really, everything else kinda bores me . Then again in BW, I skip alot of matches that don't involve zerg as well xD.
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
June 26 2011 20:57 GMT
#99
From reading a few responses in this thread I think the best advice I can give to people who want to see bw but think they arent enjoying the experience because its hard to follow or dont understand whats going on is to follow the game with the LR thread open.

They look quite different from the SC2 LR threads. A lot less people leads to less spam posts...older established game means there arent imba whiners (well you still get people raging when their favourite player loses but thats a good thing because they dont blame the game) and most people that post and discuss the strats and whats happening in game know a lot about it (well not every single one of the posters...heck I posto in LR threads so ^^). That means that reading and watching you will soon understand everything (at least everything you need to follow a game and know who's ahead and most of the times why).
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
June 26 2011 21:11 GMT
#100
Watched BW for a long time (longtime lurker of TL, finally registered in 09) and SC2's release really made me cut down on my BW watching. I still watch all the big matches and finals but I watch a whole lot less now than I used to cause I'm busy watching SC2.
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