• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:31
CEST 14:31
KST 21:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 236ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 AquaTrail-(I've Tested) My 90 Day Honest Experienc https://www.facebook.com/Power.Pro.Genius.USD/ Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11598 users

Did SC2 lead you to watching BW?

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 01:56:23
June 26 2011 14:24 GMT
#1
Hey guys I'm interested in knowing how many people here were led to watch professional BW because of SC2. In other words, I'm looking for some sort of "gateway" effect similar to how marijuana supposedly leads to heroin (jokes). But yeah, the reasoning works as follows: BW was intimidiating for those alien to RTS. SC2 introduced many new people to RTS. Most of these people play and watch sc2 exclusively. But there may be a few who were led to watch to BW in this way.

There may also be those that were led away from WATCHING bw because of sc2. (this vote is not about playing but watching).

Whatever the case, please vote in this poll! It's a small part of a larger argument I'm gonna write about later. I'll use this as some statistical evidence.

Thanks and please don't make this about BW vs SC2.

edit: sorry, new poll for clarity's sake.


Poll: SC2's effect on watching BW

SC2 has had no effect on my WATCHING BW (648)
 
54%

SC2 introduced me to WATCHING BW (365)
 
30%

SC2 turned me completely away from WATCHING BW (187)
 
16%

1200 total votes

Your vote: SC2's effect on watching BW

(Vote): SC2 introduced me to WATCHING BW
(Vote): SC2 turned me completely away from WATCHING BW
(Vote): SC2 has had no effect on my WATCHING BW


explanation of the poll options:

-option 1: You never watched BW before. You played SC2. You started watching pro BW because you had a newfound understanding of RTS.
-option 2: You USED to watch pro BW. You played SC2. You no longer watch pro BW because you find it boring compared to SC2.
-option 3: Your viewing may have increased or decreased. Or you may never have watched and continued not watching.

manner
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 14:26:34
June 26 2011 14:25 GMT
#2
I think you need to add a 3rd option: SC2 had no effect on my BW watching (this could either mean you watched it before and continue to watch, or you didn't before and still don't).
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 26 2011 14:26 GMT
#3
On June 26 2011 23:25 Sayle wrote:
I think you need to add a 3rd option: SC2 had no effect on my BW watching (this could either mean you watched it before and continued to watch, or you didn't before and still don't).

Agreed, SC2 had no effect on me.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2757 Posts
June 26 2011 14:27 GMT
#4
Agree with Sayle..
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
June 26 2011 14:28 GMT
#5
On June 26 2011 23:25 Sayle wrote:
I think you need to add a 3rd option: SC2 had no effect on my BW watching (this could either mean you watched it before and continue to watch, or you didn't before and still don't).


This.
wat
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 26 2011 14:28 GMT
#6
On June 26 2011 23:25 Sayle wrote:
I think you need to add a 3rd option: SC2 had no effect on my BW watching (this could either mean you watched it before and continue to watch, or you didn't before and still don't).


yeah i definitely thought about this but i'm more interested in extremes. LIke being wholly introduced or completely turned off. Middle ground becomes kinda sketchy because I don't think a non-English broadcast of BW is comparable to an English broadcast of SC2. The additional variable of language makes things less comparable.
manner
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2757 Posts
June 26 2011 14:28 GMT
#7
And I'm wondering how you did not come up with this urself. How are you gonna perform statistics on it otherwise?
Gleen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brazil707 Posts
June 26 2011 14:29 GMT
#8
If anything SC2 made me watch even more BW than I watched before.
I'm nowhere near good, but I still have fun playing with my probes
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 26 2011 14:29 GMT
#9
but ok, let me try that.
manner
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1772 Posts
June 26 2011 14:29 GMT
#10
Majority will probably say yes
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#11
k new poll. thanks guys
manner
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#12
On June 26 2011 23:28 Navane wrote:
And I'm wondering how you did not come up with this urself. How are you gonna perform statistics on it otherwise?


wut do you mean?
manner
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12118 Posts
June 26 2011 14:35 GMT
#13
SC2 made me watch less BW since both takes up time. SC2 also killed my interest in E-sports in general. I quite enjoyed the occasional DotA or BW games, now I had an overdose and quit for a while.
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 26 2011 14:35 GMT
#14
On June 26 2011 23:25 Sayle wrote:
I think you need to add a 3rd option: SC2 had no effect on my BW watching (this could either mean you watched it before and continue to watch, or you didn't before and still don't).


yeah... the ambiguity of the statement is why i kinda wanted to avoid that "no effect" option. Because both options are pretty significant... but then there's the confounding variable of language in those middle ground options. but whatevers.
manner
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10785 Posts
June 26 2011 14:38 GMT
#15
I feel like this should be made in the SC2 forum, only because I don't believe you will get accurate polls in the BW forum asking about SC2, just my opinion. Regardless, I played SC2 since beta, it made me watch more BW if anything though, because the BW pro scene > SC2 pro scene , forevah.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 26 2011 14:39 GMT
#16
On June 26 2011 23:38 GGzerG wrote:
I feel like this should be made in the SC2 forum, only because I don't believe you will get accurate polls in the BW forum asking about SC2, just my opinion. Regardless, I played SC2 since beta, it made me watch more BW if anything though, because the BW pro scene > SC2 pro scene , forevah.


that might be true. since it's positioned in the BW section, there might already be a natural bias right? Maybe i could get someone to move it to SC2 for me... or maybe even general thread. I'll PM a mod later
manner
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9543 Posts
June 26 2011 14:41 GMT
#17
I'm quite curious about the results of this poll and quite interesting in this topic too. So I just hope the thread stays opened long enough with civil discussions and not ignorant and pointless bashing of any kind.

I also agree that the poll could add few more options. For those people on who SC2 had no effect of their watching of BW as Sayle said, and also for those people who SC2 turned away from BW at first, but came back to watching BW later.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
June 26 2011 14:41 GMT
#18
sc2 had an effect on me watching more bw because it showed me how much better bw is.
TPW Mapmaking Team
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 26 2011 14:45 GMT
#19
On June 26 2011 23:41 Mereel wrote:
sc2 had an effect on me watching more bw because it showed me --------------------------------.


=) you're entitled to that opinion but can you not post that here cuz i dont want this poll to die through bw/sc2 flaming. sooo could u edit that out.
manner
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
June 26 2011 14:48 GMT
#20
I watch more sc2 now because there is more content, but most of the time they are in the background and I enjoy the commentators. I get more hyped for BW matchups and usually drop everything and watch them with popcorn and snacks =)

go both scenes!
1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SC Evo League
12:00
SEL S3 Ladder Invitational
ByuN vs Classic
Cure vs Solar
IntoTheiNu 795
LiquipediaDiscussion
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
ASL22 Wildcard
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
Afreeca ASL 4543
LiquipediaDiscussion
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #147
CranKy Ducklings50
LiquipediaDiscussion
RSL Revival
09:00
Season 6 - Group A
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
Tasteless1434
Ryung 955
RotterdaM724
TKL 325
IndyStarCraft 202
Rex165
3DClanTV 122
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 1434
Ryung 955
RotterdaM 724
TKL 325
IndyStarCraft 202
Rex 165
MindelVK 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 27347
Calm 7472
Bisu 3103
Hyuk 846
firebathero 827
Shuttle 681
BeSt 617
Mini 572
Horang2 407
ZerO 230
[ Show more ]
Stork 197
Dewaltoss 178
Last 140
ggaemo 138
Jaedong 137
Soma 72
soO 41
sorry 22
IntoTheRainbow 17
sSak 15
Larva 13
Sexy 13
GoRush 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Dota 2
Gorgc6548
Dendi750
XaKoH 440
XcaliburYe145
League of Legends
JimRising 424
Counter-Strike
zeus454
Other Games
gofns15239
FrodaN3352
singsing1655
Pyrionflax280
Lowko276
ToD272
DeMusliM126
KnowMe99
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick28372
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 153
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP12
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
IPSL
3h 29m
Dragon vs Ret
Patches Events
3h 29m
RSL Revival
20h 29m
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 29m
IPSL
1d 3h
Bonyth vs Hawk
GSL
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.