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Paul Sams Interview: post-negotiation with KeSPA - Page 2
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On May 27 2011 15:35 Headshot wrote: I understand Blizzard's position, but I am not OK with this. If people recognize that BW is the better game and choose to play/watch it instead of SC2 than that's Blizzards fault. Look at what's wrong with SC2. I'm worried about what they're going to do to sell more copies. He covered part of your objection. He does say that people haven't played SC2 much in Korea. That would imply that the majority of people in Korea aren't educated enough in the matter to properly choose between SC2 and BW. It's still too early to say that there's all that much wrong with SC2 (though I do think the game has a lot of really bad fundamental design flaws), but it's also definitely too early to say that Korea has chosen BW over SC2. Personally, I believe BW is an infinitely superior game, but really, only time will allow real and proper judgments to be made. SC2 has had a really unfair boost BW never had, which is why it's so big and is still growing now. BW is pretty much dead outside of Korea, and even in Korea, new blood is hard to come by. We'll have to see how it goes. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Really, hard to understand this as anything except a "faith-breaking attack --> fail --> trying to retreat with minimum losses" from Blizzard. There's nothing more than this imo, everything else is the waste of words from the "official" people. =___= I wonder if they will try to secretly approach some top players and convince them to transfer at all costs... =__= maybe even threaten them? (if they very probably can't be "bought" by money) =____= Blizzard will always be Blizzard. /facepalm | ||
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prototype.
Canada4215 Posts
He needs to pull his head out of his ass and realize not everyone enjoys SC2 as much as BW. | ||
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waxypants
United States479 Posts
On May 27 2011 16:27 prototype. wrote: I'm kinda insulted by the way he views BW-only fans. He needs to pull his head out of his ass and realize not everyone enjoys SC2 as much as BW. I agree. I love how he compares BW fans to children who don't want to give up their old toy. They just don't understand. Oh well, we got what we want for now I guess. Anyway, this is total bullshit but it's to be expected. They just realized it wasn't worth it and are now trying to backtrack and minimize any potential damage. Is anyone else put in rage-mode by the phrases "respect our IP rights" or "acknowledge our IP rights"? I don't even know what this means. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On May 27 2011 16:27 prototype. wrote: I'm kinda insulted by the way he views BW-only fans. He needs to pull his head out of his ass and realize not everyone enjoys SC2 as much as BW. But sir, need I remind you that it is a new product? New is ALWAYS better! | ||
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1a2a3aPro
Canada227 Posts
In fact, StarCraft didn't gain huge following right after its release in Korea. It took a year at least to gain a huge following. StarCraft is like a toy that you are used to, or the clothing that you've worn for a while. It's old, you've used them many times, you're comfortable with them. I think if they come to experience StarCraft 2 proper, they can enjoy it too. We are that confident about the quality of StarCraft 2. It's a shame that new toy isn't half as entertaining for the spectator, at least if you've watched Brood War for a long time. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8971 Posts
On May 27 2011 16:33 waxypants wrote: Anyway, this is total bullshit but it's to be expected. They just realized it wasn't worth it and are now trying to backtrack and minimize any potential damage. Is anyone else put in rage-mode by the phrases "respect our IP rights" or "acknowledge our IP rights"? I don't even know what this means. To me it sounds exactly the same as when Cartman plays the cop and keeps saying "Respect my authority !" without having no idea of what it means whatsoever. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On May 27 2011 16:33 waxypants wrote: I agree. I love how he compares BW fans to children who don't want to give up their old toy. They just don't understand. Oh well, we got what we want for now I guess. Anyway, this is total bullshit but it's to be expected. They just realized it wasn't worth it and are now trying to backtrack and minimize any potential damage. Is anyone else put in rage-mode by the phrases "respect our IP rights" or "acknowledge our IP rights"? I don't even know what this means. It means absolutely nothing. The judge told them to define exactly what IP rights were being breached and the that the court case is over means they weren't able to. | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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laurine90
Serbia33 Posts
ip rights they should have make up something less obvious lol | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
Anyway, what I can tell you is that all derivative works (such as broadcasted shows) using StarCraft: Brood War, their IP rights will belong to KeSPA and OGN-MBCGame. It is also possible for them to take these contents, then sell them as they see fit for various platforms they might be planning. However, there is the requirement that if they wish to open up a new SC: BW league elsewhere, they must negotiate with Blizzard again. So, Kespa lost the right to do something they never wanted to do (creating new leagues, exporting the korean formats) and Blizzard gave full right for derivative work to Kespa. Seems like a perfectly balanced deal. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Might just be me though........but what a load of bullshit. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On May 27 2011 17:29 laurine90 wrote: blizzard just 14 nex kespa and mbc and got away with it ip rights they should have make up something less obvious lol lol its more like a 4 pool fail from Blizzard and now desperately trying to switch to macro mode while not clearly realising how ridiculously it looks like this game lol: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:01 Selith wrote: - Then what do you think will happen to Korean eSports scene? ▲ I'll take a certain boxing player as an example. He used to be the best in his nation, then he grew to become an international boxing star. For a moment, I thought he was referring to Boxer. | ||
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mmdmmd
722 Posts
No Blizzard! Don't you see that by making it "easier" you are causing all these 1x 200/200 death ball fights? Make a pro version that doesn't have autocast, MBS, automine(let's face it, if you watch BW, u know commentator still screams in amazement when a S class player had a bunch of idle workers. It's part of the "fun" game). And I know you blizz guys read these forums. So here is my 2 cents regarding SC2 future in Asia: Leave Chinese sites ALONE! Shutting down their GOMTV uploads is bad for your sc2 growth. Plu and Wfbrood is the equivalent of TL in Asia! Their contribution to the sc/bw community cannot be ignore. GOMTV has doesn't want exposure in China, but you do! Because of this ↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓(Chinese BW crowd) ![[image loading]](http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4738/fomos.jpg) | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4396 Posts
On May 27 2011 20:48 mmdmmd wrote: A lot of Koreans know what StarCraft 2, but the rate of these players actually playing is rather low. So, we're going to focus on how to make it easier to approach, and to enjoy. No Blizzard! Don't you see that by making it "easier" you are causing all these 1x 200/200 death ball fights? Make a pro version that doesn't have autocast, MBS, automine(let's face it, if you watch BW, u know commentator still screams in amazement when a S class player had a bunch of idle workers. It's part of the "fun" game). And I know you blizz guys read these forums. So here is my 2 cents regarding SC2 future in Asia: Leave Chinese sites ALONE! Shutting down their GOMTV uploads is bad for your sc2 growth. Plu and Wfbrood is the equivalent of TL in Asia! Their contribution to the sc/bw community cannot be ignore. GOMTV has doesn't want exposure in China, but you do! Because of this ↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓(Chinese BW crowd) That's not what that means. It means that they want to make the game more accessible to the average gamer. Maybe offer better conditions to pc bangs to have SC2 in all pcs and stuff like that or marketing to GSL and GSTL and to the prize pools. Its not about the game per se, its about marketing and ways to reach everybody. Im not sure exaclty how the pc bang situation is now, but I remember that during the beta and launch the owners didnt buy a lot of copies to have them in all pcs because they'd rather have one license for all the pcs like for BW. So no pcb SC2 less players. Maybe this was already resolved later on, Im just trying to give you an example of what easier means so that you dont make wrong assumptions and dont be scared because you missread the statement. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On May 27 2011 12:01 Selith wrote: I have a bit of an issue with this reply from Sams. I want to see any Starcraft title as long as possible and not being succeeded by another newest product soon.- During first quarter's conference call, there was an announcement that Blizzard will focus on turning existing StarCraft users into StarCraft 2 users. Do you have any concrete plans for that? ▲ That's a question we get a lot. People ask, "Why would you want to convert people from SC to SC 2? How will you do it?". The reason is simple. It's our newest product. This is something that all companies do by default. | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On May 27 2011 13:59 Armathai wrote: Thanks for translating! + Show Spoiler + - During first quarter's conference call, there was an announcement that Blizzard will focus on turning existing StarCraft users into StarCraft 2 users. Do you have any concrete plans for that? ▲ That's a question we get a lot. People ask, "Why would you want to convert people from SC to SC 2? How will you do it?". The reason is simple. It's our newest product. This is something that all companies do by default. Out of all RTS games Blizzard developed, there's none that matches StarCraft in quality. It provided gamers with experience never seen before through excellent playability as well as B.net experience. There are many ways to convert the SC 1 users to SC 2. Blizzard's local offices decide how they will go about it. Basically though, there is a big loyalty to StarCraft series, so I don't think there will be a problem with users converting to SC 2. I think it's already proven by the fact StarCraft 2 is the game that managed to sell a lot in such a short amount of time. This part is pretty annoying, in that they're trying to create a targeted campaign to get BW players to switch to SC2. It's like Microsoft trying to get people to go from XP to Vista..., why not just support a working product. Wow that vista analogy is perfect O_O Yea...these interviews can totally piss you off T____T | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
Actually its not. Continuing to support yet another OS actually means needing to continue security and support patches (as well as usability and testing for them) for this OS for it on top of for the current generations of OSs. Microsoft releases a new consumer OS every few years (not counting minor revisions, service packs or server editions). They can only continue to actively patch and support so many products regularly before the time and manpower required exceeds reason. XP was released in 2001, SP1 in 2002, SP2 in 2004 and SP3 in 2008. Microsoft has stated they will continue to support and patch SP3 until April 2014 at which time the product will be abandoned (which is completely reasonable). As for BW, Blizzard hasn't supported BW in a meaningful way in years regardless, all they have done was not shut down sc1 bnet, and even if they had it wouldn't matter much what with iccup/fish/brain/etc. The support analogy would make more sense if Blizzard was still required to dedicate developer and testing time to BW and wanted to not continue to spread manpower (and efficiency) across a growing number of supported games. The manpower dedicated to BW is virtually non-existent at this point (and has been for some time now). The comparable part in the analogy is the desire to have your consumers switch to your newer product, which is shared by all corporations and makes sense from a fiscal perspective. | ||
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