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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On May 10 2011 02:58 Milkis wrote: Blizzard got far from exactly what they wanted, considering they wanted 100% rights. They did get Kespa/OGN/MBC to recognize the rights as the article clearly states they agreed to pay a licensing fee every year | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On May 10 2011 02:53 Ryo wrote: OGN and MBC were willing to pay a license fee but the disagreements were about the actual frequency/amount of the fee as well as some other conditions that Blizzard wanted. Pretty sure they didn't have to put the Blizzard logo on the things before, right? And about the fee, did they pay one in the last years? And about SC2, I just hope they won't have to broadcast/advertise it. | ||
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Suisen
256 Posts
Gomtv right now isn't sustainable either. Do we know for sure how long Blizzard has agreed to give money to Gomtv to fund their operation? I think a reason why gomtv was so angry and frustrated is because they invested a lot to try to get their SC BW tournament going and when it didn't take off they asked Blizzard for help. Blizzard then used Gomtv as a weapon against Kespa/OGN/MBC. They in response no longer gave a way for free their players. Gomtv/Gretech gambled a lot and mostly lost. Will their business be profitable without Blizzard funds? I think that without Blizzard funds, SC2 on an online stream in Korea is not viable. In the end Kespa/OGN/MBC wll do SC2 too. Or there will be no SC2 whatsoever in Korea. | ||
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Suisen
256 Posts
On May 10 2011 02:59 syllogism wrote: They did get Kespa/OGN/MBC to recognize the rights as the article clearly states they agreed to pay a licensing fee every year They already paid a fee before SC2 was announced. Just like they pay a fee to play the music they play before matches. There are fixed fees for these things. Receiving royalties and owning the IP to the whole esports show are different things. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
On May 10 2011 02:59 Lucumo wrote: Pretty sure they didn't have to put the Blizzard logo on the things before, right? And about the fee, did they pay one in the last years? And about SC2, I just hope they won't have to broadcast/advertise it. that is what worries me the most. I fear the tyrant blizzard will enforce something stupid like that and try and kill bw from the groud up. by forcing sc2 on tv and such, they are trying to kill bw, there is no doubt about that, they want the money, they are greedy spineless bastards. They will kill a huge esport to support a esport they are funding. look at nasl and gsl, both are heavily sponsored by blizzard, and blizzard has their hand in the pies of many top sc2 leagues. That is not the case with bw, and it allowed bw to flourish in korea. They want bw dead, I can only hope KeSPA will not involve sc2 in any of its activties, and also prevents sc2 from airing. the good thing though, is that kespa owns the players (by contract) so in that respect. if ogn or mbc decided to air sc2, kespa could pull the plug on all bw broadcasting for both networks. which would make ogn and mbc back off of sc2. which is good news. | ||
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6261 Posts
On May 10 2011 02:58 Milkis wrote: Blizzard got far from exactly what they wanted, considering they wanted 100% rights. I think it's a weird discussion to have when we don't even know the content they agreed on and how much they're actually paying blizzard. Actually it's not even confirmed yet so who knows maybe it's not even true or it gets cancelled on a detail  . | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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Hunterai
Thailand842 Posts
On May 09 2011 21:26 Puosu wrote: Hell, it's about time. Overused, yes, but so very appropriate. Completely agreed :-D | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On May 10 2011 02:58 Milkis wrote: Blizzard got far from exactly what they wanted, considering they wanted 100% rights. They didnt want rights. If they wanted rights they'd never have offered rights for money in the first place. They offered rights in return for money, and unless you have any numbers on exactly how much money Blizz got, theres no way to interpret who "caved in". If Blizz got anywhere near their initial demand, they're sure as hell gonna walk away from this whole agreement with a smile on their face. And really, you seem to be awfully sure about everything (99% sure to be exact) considering you have the same amount of info (the OP) as the rest of us. Care to explain what makes you so sure? As far as I can tell, Blizz could have got practically everything they asked for, or practically nothing. The OP doesnt reveal more. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On May 10 2011 03:04 Suisen wrote: They already paid a fee before SC2 was announced. Just like they pay a fee to play the music they play before matches. There are fixed fees for these things. Receiving royalties and owning the IP to the whole esports show are different things. We don't know the exact details of the settlement, but the details we do know indicate they very much agreed to recognize blizzard's rights encompass "esports". This sounds like a standard IP licensing deal and thus it recognizes the rights And no, there are no fixed fees | ||
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Oozo
Finland432 Posts
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simme123
Sweden810 Posts
So glad to see this :D | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
The article says the dispute over SCBW between KeSPA and Blizzard is over, how does that even imply the commencement of SC2?? | ||
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-IntEnZ-
Sweden50 Posts
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On May 10 2011 03:09 Kreb wrote: They didnt want rights. If they wanted rights they'd never have offered rights for money in the first place. They offered rights in return for money, and unless you have any numbers on exactly how much money Blizz got, theres no way to interpret who "caved in". If Blizz got anywhere near their initial demand, they're sure as hell gonna walk away from this whole agreement with a smile on their face. And really, you seem to be awfully sure about everything (99% sure to be exact) considering you have the same amount of info (the OP) as the rest of us. Care to explain what makes you so sure? As far as I can tell, Blizz could have got practically everything they asked for, or practically nothing. The OP doesnt reveal more. WELL... if you go look up all the posts and translations i've did on the subject maybe you'll realize I'm much more informed about this subject than you or what is revealed in the OP lol Blizzard did not want money and they have cited this many many many many times. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I never watched any sc2 matches, but according to one of my friends who follows the scene closely, sc2 is too immature right now to be played professionally because there is too much rock-paper-scissor in builds. Hopefully, two expansions later and we will have a game that is more complex and dynamic. | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
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