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fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
May 09 2011 16:01 GMT
#301
On May 10 2011 00:40 chogoling wrote:
Would be quite interesting to see how (if they do) OGN and MBCgame incorporate sc2 given that OGN was so close to starting OS2L.


Would be awesome if the did, but I dont think KESPA would be ok with it.

I didn't think they'd reach an agreement especially with Blizzard's/Kespa's attitude at the start of the dispute.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
May 09 2011 16:06 GMT
#302
Can 3 major SC2 leagues be sustainable at the this point in Korea?
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
May 09 2011 16:08 GMT
#303
On May 09 2011 21:27 Elefanto wrote:
Dear lord please start now a Sc2 proleague
Would be so fucking nice, and Sc1 teams with Sc2 squads.


Why would they want to do that? Its not being embraced by the fans so isnt it a bit counterproductive?
Aah thats the stuff..
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 16:10:05
May 09 2011 16:09 GMT
#304
Yay blizzard is finally realising that sc2 has been a failure (in the korean proscene)!
Long Live BW!
BW forever!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51626 Posts
May 09 2011 16:25 GMT
#305
On May 10 2011 01:09 HaFnium wrote:
Yay blizzard is finally realising that sc2 has been a failure (in the korean proscene)!
Long Live BW!


its nice to know that something that is not an instant success is a total failure.

but

long live BW.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 16:32:20
May 09 2011 16:26 GMT
#306
curious to see what the terms of the agreed contract are

guessing Blizzard gave up on 50/50 control of any Blizzard related content OGN/MBC produced and requiring OGN/MBC to go through Blizzard for final approval of the content

On May 10 2011 01:08 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 21:27 Elefanto wrote:
Dear lord please start now a Sc2 proleague
Would be so fucking nice, and Sc1 teams with Sc2 squads.


Why would they want to do that? Its not being embraced by the fans so isnt it a bit counterproductive?


SC1 teams don't need to make SC2 squads

Korean SC2 teams definitely do need a SC2 proleague system though for more team exposure and better potential for sponsorships.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
May 09 2011 16:37 GMT
#307
haha, blizzard fail.

LONG LIVE BROOD WAR!
Brood War loyalist
eeniebear
Profile Joined February 2010
United States197 Posts
May 09 2011 16:38 GMT
#308
Why so much love for SC2 being embraced by KESPA? That's the last thing I want to see. Keep it pure. SC2 is for failed foreigner semi-pros, keep SCBW for the real players, keep the SC2 stink out.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 17:02:13
May 09 2011 16:41 GMT
#309
On May 10 2011 01:26 udgnim wrote:
Korean SC2 teams definitely do need a SC2 proleague system though for more team exposure and better potential for sponsorships.


Seriously. The GSTL was really popular, but GOM seems to consider team games a side show

IGN is thinking about a foreign team league though (and a foreign 2v2 league. That'll be interesting). Maybe that'll help the Korean scene get in gear.

EDIT: I don't think the IPL Team League is as done a deal as I made it out to be, I just remember it from SOTG last week.
ehalf
Profile Joined September 2010
408 Posts
May 09 2011 16:41 GMT
#310
The agreement is believed to have arrived due to starcraft2’s failure to be embraced by the Korean fans

I have a bad feeling for this news when I saw this sentence.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51626 Posts
May 09 2011 16:42 GMT
#311
On May 10 2011 01:38 eeniebear wrote:
Why so much love for SC2 being embraced by KESPA? That's the last thing I want to see. Keep it pure. SC2 is for failed foreigner semi-pros, keep SCBW for the real players, keep the SC2 stink out.


pure my ass,matchfixing scandal shattered that image.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
kevva
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden86 Posts
May 09 2011 16:42 GMT
#312
On May 10 2011 01:38 eeniebear wrote:
Why so much love for SC2 being embraced by KESPA? That's the last thing I want to see. Keep it pure. SC2 is for failed foreigner semi-pros, keep SCBW for the real players, keep the SC2 stink out.

Have you even read the statement? Kespa is getting the BW rights and the BW rights only. GOM still have all the rights over SC2 which means that things is going to keep on going like they have been for the last year.
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1079 Posts
May 09 2011 16:43 GMT
#313
On May 10 2011 01:38 eeniebear wrote:
Why so much love for SC2 being embraced by KESPA? That's the last thing I want to see. Keep it pure. SC2 is for failed foreigner semi-pros, keep SCBW for the real players, keep the SC2 stink out.


I believe that this news is good for SCBW too, meaning that they can hold the SCBW legally/legitimately now.

From the article, "The agreement is believed to have arrived due to starcraft2’s failure to be embraced by the Korean fans". That means they will focus more on SCBW rather than SC2.

Long Live SCBW!
BW forever!
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
May 09 2011 16:45 GMT
#314
I'm glad this shit's finally over lol.

LONG LIVE BROOD WAR!!!!!
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
May 09 2011 16:52 GMT
#315
On May 10 2011 01:38 eeniebear wrote:
Why so much love for SC2 being embraced by KESPA? That's the last thing I want to see. Keep it pure. SC2 is for failed foreigner semi-pros, keep SCBW for the real players, keep the SC2 stink out.

I couldnt give a shit about whether sc2 succeeds or fails, this news is very good for the bw scene though
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 09 2011 16:52 GMT
#316
On May 10 2011 01:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 01:38 eeniebear wrote:
Why so much love for SC2 being embraced by KESPA? That's the last thing I want to see. Keep it pure. SC2 is for failed foreigner semi-pros, keep SCBW for the real players, keep the SC2 stink out.


pure my ass,matchfixing scandal shattered that image.


How about we compromise? Starcraft 2 is for washed up senior citizens, and Brood War is for the mafia.

There, now there's no reason anyone should be angry
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
May 09 2011 16:53 GMT
#317
On May 09 2011 22:19 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 22:15 Krehlmar wrote:
No offence but in due time Korea will not be the e-gaming capital of the world, my thoughts is just that it has way to many stubborn BW fans/plaers that continue to make SC2 sound like it's "off" in Korea, whilst the rest of the world has realised that SC2 is the chance to make Esports big and thus it's gaining the support it is.


no offence but in due time the SC2 bubble will die and everything you thought was stable will disappear and the SC2 scene will be only a shell of what is around now. let me know if sc2 lasts 10 years, because it wont.



What the heck are you talking about?
I played sc2 when it came out and i had 1 friend who played with me. Almost a year later and now I have 8 friends who play the game and they all have started to watch pro games. From my perspective, the game is getting bigger and more popular. Unless there is an adequate replacement, sc2 is going to be popular for a loooong time. Maybe not in korea, but that doesn't matter to me.
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BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
May 09 2011 16:53 GMT
#318
Well lets hope this news is real and will be confirmed soon. We wont get any details i suppose, but whatever.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 16:57:21
May 09 2011 16:56 GMT
#319
On May 10 2011 01:53 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 22:19 Milkis wrote:
On May 09 2011 22:15 Krehlmar wrote:
No offence but in due time Korea will not be the e-gaming capital of the world, my thoughts is just that it has way to many stubborn BW fans/plaers that continue to make SC2 sound like it's "off" in Korea, whilst the rest of the world has realised that SC2 is the chance to make Esports big and thus it's gaining the support it is.


no offence but in due time the SC2 bubble will die and everything you thought was stable will disappear and the SC2 scene will be only a shell of what is around now. let me know if sc2 lasts 10 years, because it wont.



What the heck are you talking about?
I played sc2 when it came out and i had 1 friend who played with me. Almost a year later and now I have 8 friends who play the game and they all have started to watch pro games. From my perspective, the game is getting bigger and more popular. Unless there is an adequate replacement, sc2 is going to be popular for a loooong time. Maybe not in korea, but that doesn't matter to me.


What he means is that it might go the way of the Warcraft III, which also was hugely popular, highly anticipated, money everywhere, but ended up being a shell of its former self, except in China perhaps, but Dota reigns supreme there, not Warcraft III itself.

Sponsors realized that there was no money in it, so they pulled out, massivly, the bubble exploded, and now WCIII is merely a shadow of its former self.
WriterXiao8~~
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 09 2011 16:58 GMT
#320
On May 10 2011 01:56 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 01:53 darmousseh wrote:
On May 09 2011 22:19 Milkis wrote:
On May 09 2011 22:15 Krehlmar wrote:
No offence but in due time Korea will not be the e-gaming capital of the world, my thoughts is just that it has way to many stubborn BW fans/plaers that continue to make SC2 sound like it's "off" in Korea, whilst the rest of the world has realised that SC2 is the chance to make Esports big and thus it's gaining the support it is.


no offence but in due time the SC2 bubble will die and everything you thought was stable will disappear and the SC2 scene will be only a shell of what is around now. let me know if sc2 lasts 10 years, because it wont.



What the heck are you talking about?
I played sc2 when it came out and i had 1 friend who played with me. Almost a year later and now I have 8 friends who play the game and they all have started to watch pro games. From my perspective, the game is getting bigger and more popular. Unless there is an adequate replacement, sc2 is going to be popular for a loooong time. Maybe not in korea, but that doesn't matter to me.


What he means is that it might go the way of the Warcraft III, which also was hugely popular, highly anticipated, money everywhere, but ended up being a shell of its former self, except in China perhaps, but Dota reigns supreme there, not Warcraft III itself.

Sponsors realized that there was no money in it, so they pulled out, massivly, the bubble exploded, and now WCIII is merely a shadow of its former self.


What he means is that he wants to turn the thread into yet another BW vs SC2 flamewar. Which he did quite successfully, not that it's hard.
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