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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 15:38:49
May 09 2011 15:33 GMT
#281
On May 10 2011 00:30 a176 wrote:
non-sdm link:

translation would be appreciated!

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=117180&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

Hmmm...
I attempted a Google Translate in case anyone is eager to read it before a real translation is made. It's very rough, of course.
+ Show Spoiler +
Went to court, Korea e-Sports Association (KeSPA) and intellectual property issues between Blizzard seems to be solved soon.

9, a sports newspaper, Blizzard Entertainment and the Korea e-Sports Association to unpack the conflict between the different intellectual property issues for StarCraft have agreed to amicably resolve the contents of the article has. According to the report 13 days following the Seoul Central District Court in civil court and the MBC was scheduled Blizzard Games - OGN with the IPR infringement trial postponed because the 4th also stars the two sides reach an agreement with respect to intellectual property issues, said due to the fact.

In addition, specific details are still discussing jungyijiman Blizzard Korea e-Sports Association and the pro-game, MBC Games - OGN and two games of the broadcasters star a contest held and broadcast and 2nd work recognizes the right of the Association and broadcasters StarCraft licenses for costs and competition within the news that Blizzard is to expose the logo.

The news that the comments are in fact scheduled drill. GSL has been held to present its games for the Bears TV tournament held in Korea and all the exclusive right to broadcast in March last StarCraft, Blizzard gave one back on the right was all about. Blizzard Korea during the "Bear TV star than the Blizzard one for yourself that it was more efficient to manage. Gom TV StarCraft 2 League held an ongoing focus on the future," said intellectual property rights implies that the negotiations had hit a new phase.

Blizzard as a relatively positive attitude to loosen Korea e-Sports industry, and why the conflict deungdayanghan poor analysis of the two stars, but eventually break even for all intellectual property issues on both sides because kkichineun seems to grasp the reality. When negotiations reached on intellectual property had been scheduled for the following 13 cases are also automatically taken.

In this regard, while Blizzard Korea Korea e-Sports Association and the "Can you tell yet that there is nothing concrete." Officially on the reports but does not deny the Sixers.

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edit: Damn, this Google Translate is confusing and definitely difficult to read. I can't wait for a real translation.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
May 09 2011 15:33 GMT
#282
fina-fucking-ly this bs is over

i can finally watch bw in peace
POGGERS
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
May 09 2011 15:34 GMT
#283
On May 10 2011 00:26 Furycrab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 23:45 Kipsate wrote:
On May 09 2011 23:41 Furycrab wrote:
YES so glad it's finally settled.


No argument there

I hope KeSPA doesn't ever broadcast or promote SC2 though, they will regret it.


What they end up doing is up to them, however they can't badmouth any Blizzard products or future endevours. Which mostly means now that they can't badmouth GOM or HotS, which to Blizzard is just as good as them promoting SC2.

"Interviewer: What do you think of HotS?

KeSPA: That is a Blizzard product... No comment."

I don't think anyone I've ever come across who watches and understands both BW and SC2 will ever say that the excitement SC2 brings about is anything worth comparing to BW's. That's probably also the same reason why some SC2ers, especially the very young ones make ridiculously uninformed comments about BW.


I can't comment on what younger SC2ers say, but I enjoy both scenes and while I'm not sure what gets me more excited, but I will say it's much easier to get excited about a good match I can watch live without waking up at 5am, in english, featuring international players. The BW scene is just never ever going to deliver in that department. So while I have tons of fun watching BW, I do get more excited when news of a good SC2 match is coming.

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Thats personal preference, and part of the reason why people will never agree, I don't like waking up at 5 am more then you, but it is so worth it to me. I personally couldn't care less about ''foreigners'', I care about the best players most of them are Korean(a feat noone can deny), but I have no bias.
Also there hasn't been a really good english commentator who can deliver the same excitement as Klazart could for me(Watching SC2 with korean commentary is so much better for me btw). A problem with SCBW is that it is hard to understand for the casual person, the fact that it is commentated in Korean is amazing and fun for us(I mean, have you ever seen guys with so much passion?for a game?). However a new person does not understand korean, and does not really know what is going on in the game. Therefore he will have to delve back into older SCBW games, and that is simply not appeasing for him because the community does not watch it with him.

Its personal preference I suppose.

Also I find SCBW more appealing to the eye then SC2 for some reason keke(in most departments).(also personal preference).

Its not nostalgia,the game still exists, its not because I refuse to accept change, frankly I haven't been here very long on Teamliquid. I came here because of SC2 beta, and realized that the game was not what I was looking for, I started following BW again(I used to watch randomly on youtube, jon747/Violetak).

I don't dislike SC2 however:
For me , SC2 is a game, SCBW is a sport.


It certainly helps when you can speak the language. I don't feel limited, I'll still watch VODs and content in Korean. If anything it's pretty exciting to hear them yell out and you don't need to fully understand them (if the guy controlling the camera doesn't suck which usually he is excellent... Loved reading Hot_bids article on the art) to enjoy what is going on.

Where I'm seriously lacking is when it comes to interviews, post game commentary and content broadcasted in my timezone. Tl.net, translators and various writeups compensate and help a ton. So to me the BW scene will never be there, so to it's difficult to get excited about the future of BW.

To me chess is a game, but it doesn't make watching the Candidates tournament any less epic or difficult. Hockey is a game to me too, even though my favorite players could likely spotcheck me into oblivion. I just don't see how calling something a sport but not a game or vice-versa as being a good thing a good sport is both.

Personal opinion of course.





Wow, Kipsate... You just spoke my mind... Came for sc2, just meh, end up in BW.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
May 09 2011 15:35 GMT
#284
Wouldn't Blizzard giving OGN/MBC SC2 rights basically be blizzard stabbing GOM in the back and leaving them out to dry? For one I can't see GOM competing with OGN/MBC in broadcast/production values.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 15:35:50
May 09 2011 15:35 GMT
#285
On May 09 2011 21:22 zul wrote:
Initially Blizzard requested an unreasonable amount of at least \0,00,000,000? a year(proleague-both individual leagues included)and Kespa rejected the offer.


That seems a bit unreasonable. They should at least ask for a real number.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 09 2011 15:38 GMT
#286
On May 10 2011 00:35 Taku wrote:
Wouldn't Blizzard giving OGN/MBC SC2 rights basically be blizzard stabbing GOM in the back and leaving them out to dry? For one I can't see GOM competing with OGN/MBC in broadcast/production values.


Seriously? The GSL has really good production values with behind-the-scenes documentaries about players and K-pop concerts. I only really watched Brood War via the Violetak account or nukethestars. What have I been missing?
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
May 09 2011 15:39 GMT
#287
Blizzard finally realizes that you can not Kill BW, it is invincible, immortal, beyond a game.

naisu.

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I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
May 09 2011 15:40 GMT
#288
On May 10 2011 00:35 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 21:22 zul wrote:
Initially Blizzard requested an unreasonable amount of at least \0,00,000,000? a year(proleague-both individual leagues included)and Kespa rejected the offer.


That seems a bit unreasonable. They should at least ask for a real number.


that's actually standard notation for high fives. ( \0 followed by a comma, and then the amount of high fives) so blizzard was asking for 100,000,000 high fives a year. Considering that's 273,972 a day I'm not surprised kespa called that amount unreasonable.
chogoling
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia173 Posts
May 09 2011 15:40 GMT
#289
YESYYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESY BW4LIFE

Would be quite interesting to see how (if they do) OGN and MBCgame incorporate sc2 given that OGN was so close to starting OS2L.
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renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
May 09 2011 15:40 GMT
#290
On May 10 2011 00:38 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 00:35 Taku wrote:
Wouldn't Blizzard giving OGN/MBC SC2 rights basically be blizzard stabbing GOM in the back and leaving them out to dry? For one I can't see GOM competing with OGN/MBC in broadcast/production values.


Seriously? The GSL has really good production values with behind-the-scenes documentaries about players and K-pop concerts. I only really watched Brood War via the Violetak account or nukethestars. What have I been missing?


If you watch games live, you'll realize that MSL and OSL has all of those, especially during their respective SLs.
Bisu is the man
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 09 2011 15:42 GMT
#291
On May 10 2011 00:40 renzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 00:38 Ribbon wrote:
On May 10 2011 00:35 Taku wrote:
Wouldn't Blizzard giving OGN/MBC SC2 rights basically be blizzard stabbing GOM in the back and leaving them out to dry? For one I can't see GOM competing with OGN/MBC in broadcast/production values.


Seriously? The GSL has really good production values with behind-the-scenes documentaries about players and K-pop concerts. I only really watched Brood War via the Violetak account or nukethestars. What have I been missing?


If you watch games live, you'll realize that MSL and OSL has all of those, especially during their respective SLs.


But Taku said GOM "couldn't compete", implying BW has all of that and more. I'm curious about the "more"
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 15:49:25
May 09 2011 15:42 GMT
#292
On May 10 2011 00:38 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 00:35 Taku wrote:
Wouldn't Blizzard giving OGN/MBC SC2 rights basically be blizzard stabbing GOM in the back and leaving them out to dry? For one I can't see GOM competing with OGN/MBC in broadcast/production values.


Seriously? The GSL has really good production values with behind-the-scenes documentaries about players and K-pop concerts. I only really watched Brood War via the Violetak account or nukethestars. What have I been missing?


Mystarlegue
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If you want behind the scene and k-pops ..


On May 10 2011 00:42 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 00:40 renzy wrote:
On May 10 2011 00:38 Ribbon wrote:
On May 10 2011 00:35 Taku wrote:
Wouldn't Blizzard giving OGN/MBC SC2 rights basically be blizzard stabbing GOM in the back and leaving them out to dry? For one I can't see GOM competing with OGN/MBC in broadcast/production values.


Seriously? The GSL has really good production values with behind-the-scenes documentaries about players and K-pop concerts. I only really watched Brood War via the Violetak account or nukethestars. What have I been missing?


If you watch games live, you'll realize that MSL and OSL has all of those, especially during their respective SLs.


But Taku said GOM "couldn't compete", implying BW has all of that and more. I'm curious about the "more"


Given their time on air (If they even have on air time on TV). No, they can't just compete with BW's broadcast/production values.

And do take note that this isn't really BW, It's about the players, not the game.
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 15:45:16
May 09 2011 15:44 GMT
#293
On May 10 2011 00:38 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 00:35 Taku wrote:
Wouldn't Blizzard giving OGN/MBC SC2 rights basically be blizzard stabbing GOM in the back and leaving them out to dry? For one I can't see GOM competing with OGN/MBC in broadcast/production values.


Seriously? The GSL has really good production values with behind-the-scenes documentaries about players and K-pop concerts. I only really watched Brood War via the Violetak account or nukethestars. What have I been missing?


K-pop is the ultimate standard for Starleague production value after all, Dal Shabet was a huge blow to the scene at the latest MSL, however, having GCupz perform at winners league finals made up for it. GSL getting Secret + T-ara is pretty good, but they have a long way to go before their kpop is better than the kpop that bw has had over the past few years.

But I think we can all agree,GSL NEEDS MORE RAINBOW!
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
May 09 2011 15:45 GMT
#294
On May 10 2011 00:42 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 00:38 Ribbon wrote:
On May 10 2011 00:35 Taku wrote:
Wouldn't Blizzard giving OGN/MBC SC2 rights basically be blizzard stabbing GOM in the back and leaving them out to dry? For one I can't see GOM competing with OGN/MBC in broadcast/production values.


Seriously? The GSL has really good production values with behind-the-scenes documentaries about players and K-pop concerts. I only really watched Brood War via the Violetak account or nukethestars. What have I been missing?


Mystarlegue
MBCGame B.net attack
Hyungjoon's Series

If you want behind the scene and k-pops ..


Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 00:42 Ribbon wrote:
On May 10 2011 00:40 renzy wrote:
On May 10 2011 00:38 Ribbon wrote:
On May 10 2011 00:35 Taku wrote:
Wouldn't Blizzard giving OGN/MBC SC2 rights basically be blizzard stabbing GOM in the back and leaving them out to dry? For one I can't see GOM competing with OGN/MBC in broadcast/production values.


Seriously? The GSL has really good production values with behind-the-scenes documentaries about players and K-pop concerts. I only really watched Brood War via the Violetak account or nukethestars. What have I been missing?


If you watch games live, you'll realize that MSL and OSL has all of those, especially during their respective SLs.


But Taku said GOM "couldn't compete", implying BW has all of that and more. I'm curious about the "more"


Given their time on air (If they even have on air time on TV). No, they can't just compete with BW's broadcast/production values.

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KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
May 09 2011 15:54 GMT
#295
FUCK YEAH

e-sports hwaiting! really unfair by blizzard though, just wanting money out of this I guess?
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
May 09 2011 15:56 GMT
#296
great news =)

also please, NO to any SC2 leagues being broadcasted on MBC/OGN
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
May 09 2011 15:56 GMT
#297
Yay, I'm so happy! I thought that that was going to be the last OSL.. t.t
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ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
May 09 2011 15:57 GMT
#298
Who cares if KESPA can produce SC2 tournaments. Not even Kim Carrier can make SC2 interesting! Also, I think they mean BW when they say it's settled. I doubt GOM would want to give SC2 away, and I'm not sure KESPA is even interested in SC2, especially since the BW scene seems fairly unaffected by SC2 in Korea. The number of players have probably decreased, but I'm pretty sure the viewer count and ratings are the same.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51129 Posts
May 09 2011 15:58 GMT
#299
On May 10 2011 00:56 Amnesia wrote:
great news =)

also please, NO to any SC2 leagues being broadcasted on MBC/OGN


yes because anything involving SC2 is bad right.

They'll do what they want.
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Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 16:02:30
May 09 2011 15:59 GMT
#300
On May 10 2011 00:33 eviltomahawk wrote:
edit: Damn, this Google Translate is confusing and definitely difficult to read. I can't wait for a real translation.


You seriously don't want to let google translate near anything asian unless your just checking a noun. For grammar and coherence it is 100% useless.

Hopefully they can put this behind them, get on with sorting what problems SC2 has, I love it but nothings perfect. BW can carry on, and hopefully maybe get a joint deal between GoM and the tv stations and get some SC2 on tv. Even if not prime time slots, it can't grow if it's not seen.
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