EPTWho Will Save The Protoss? Bisu! - Page 3
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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DorF
Sweden961 Posts
Although I have to say Bisu has limitations since he plays Protoss while Afrotoss plays Frotoss... | ||
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
On November 23 2010 00:22 Health_Wang wrote: I'm Health_Wang. The PLU's editor & SC commentator. 虎狼 is Horang2. listen to this man | ||
infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On November 22 2010 23:46 Funnytoss wrote: some Zergs would simply sack a control group of Mutas to snipe the HTs it's hyuk style This was a nice read, and a pretty good insight into why Bisu seems to be so strong in PvZ lately. Hoping he can teach Best, Afrotoss, and Sun how to crush the matchup too :3 | ||
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Dansickle
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Darth Saros
Czech Republic245 Posts
 free is being overlooked with his sort of oldschool perfect micro play. Everyone is yacking about Beesuit, but Free brings the results in ZvP(8/10). In my opinion instead of trying to find the advantageous build, they should focus more on ling runby/hydrabust scouting and better unit control. | ||
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Ripple818
United States87 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Danze
Australia219 Posts
How the? what the f..? Wait what, how the fuck did that happen? Did Jackie Chan and Mr T have a baby? Anyways, nice write up. Will be interesting to see how the strat works out. In the meantime, I'll sit here in a confused state wondering how an Asian got an afro. Surely it isn't natural? lmao | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On November 23 2010 06:37 Darth Saros wrote: Thanks for the translation. It was interesting, even for a terran. However I think free is being overlooked with his sort of oldschool perfect micro play. Everyone is yacking about Beesuit, but Free brings the results in ZvP(8/10). In my opinion instead of trying to find the advantageous build, they should focus more on ling runby/hydrabust scouting and better unit control._wat_? do you know that bisu broke the old elo record, again? comparing free to bisus zvp, how can you do that? :/ | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
One of the difficulties Protoss had with using Zealots against Hydras in a choke battle situation was that the Zealots couldn't spread out effectively, compounded by the fact that Hydras would clump easily, not allowing Zealots to use their speed. Now, Bisu's core strategy is to use +1 speedlots to take map control, engaging the Hydras before they can reach critical mass, using mobility, concentrating maximum strength on the opponent's weak points. I'm no BW expert but wow that's impressive. It definitely looks like a S-Class P strat. | ||
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Rustymike
Finland327 Posts
On November 23 2010 01:50 johnlee wrote: Frotoss is so much cooler/funnier than Afrotoss. Ptoss Funkmaster for the win. All credits to nukethestars though. | ||
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Chef
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Ideas
United States8148 Posts
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On November 23 2010 00:22 Health_Wang wrote: I'm Health_Wang. The PLU's editor & SC commentator. 虎狼 is Horang2. Hi! Welcome to TL!  | ||
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Funnytoss
Taiwan1471 Posts
and thanks again to PLU for this great article! it's really exciting to see a protoss beating zergs all over the place again, but we gotta remember how fast builds get countered in this era. this build/strat could be rendered obsolete within a month. remember how fast things were changing in 2009? practically every month PvZ changed lol Very true, though one part of this new strategy that I like a lot is that it doesn't depend on the user being amazing at micro, which some of the more reaver-intensive strategies would require. An overall mindset change is more revolutionary and potentially long-lasting, and it'll be interesting to see if other Protoss pick it up and how they'll do PvZ. It certainly could be rendered obsolete quickly, but it looks like Bisu, at least, will need some stiffer competition before it begins to show glaring flaws. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19299 Posts
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Ideas
United States8148 Posts
On November 23 2010 08:30 Funnytoss wrote: Thanks to everyone who pointed out that 虎狼 is Horang2. We really need an official translated "BW-terminology" thread... and thanks again to PLU for this great article! Very true, though one part of this new strategy that I like a lot is that it doesn't depend on the user being amazing at micro, which some of the more reaver-intensive strategies would require. An overall mindset change is more revolutionary and potentially long-lasting, and it'll be interesting to see if other Protoss pick it up and how they'll do PvZ. It certainly could be rendered obsolete quickly, but it looks like Bisu, at least, will need some stiffer competition before it begins to show glaring flaws. it's funny you mention that. I always believed that kal's sair/reaver strat was closest to the most perfect PvZ build if executed correctly (particularly on matchpoint). the problem I guess was that even kal wasn't able to keep up good enough micro for it all the time, and even though I still think he is the most skilled mechanically of any protoss (or at least among the top 3), he is too stubborn and not flexible enough strategically to win with it enough. if only kal would learn that sometimes he needs to stop harassing and just take an extra expo instead :\ | ||
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Enervate
United States1769 Posts
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