Blizzard and Korean Government's negotiations sour - Page 21

WHERE'S MA PROLEAGUE?!?!?!?!

On October 11 2010 06:33 ffreakk wrote:
Well assuming both sides being wrong, i would think that the one being wrong first will be held more responsible?

I dont know what is more painful.. Idiotic uninformed 1-liner or long-winded informed essays.. Pretty much the only argument that Blizz fans are yapping around is that "Its a Blizz-made game so they can do whatever they want with it".. Cmon theres a reason we have laws against Child Abuse.. Just cos you created something does not, and should not mean you have full control over its usage in society.. Much more so in Blizz case where they even already got PAID for it.

On October 11 2010 16:19 ffreakk wrote:I am aware that Child Abuse is a little different, just used it as a reference to the fact that one shouldnt be entitled all rights to something just because they created it.

On October 11 2010 07:05 mprs wrote:
This debate is border-line idiotic. I'll preface my argument with the notion that I will not use statistics or anything of that sort just because I don't feel like making up numbers today.

Kespa (well, before it formed, someone) saw a game that was getting a lot of attention in Korea. There was a PC-bang boom so to speak, and video games (especially some of the easy-to-pirate variety, aka perhaps SC!) were getting fairly popular in the Korean culture. Kespa formed on the notion that there is a market for this product we call e-sports. If Kespa was not around, there simply would have been another organization called PKFAF or KSFOTG or even STJUWTUWTY34692 to run the show. Not to undermine their accomplishments, they took this young child and grew it to be as big as possible. However, the notion that Kespa was the reason why E-sports developed in Korea is most probably not true. They simply took an advantage of a situation. The fact that they made it grow is really irrelevant because any business would have done the same. I would also like to mention that every time you see a commercial, you are basically paying money. So really the programming is not "free".

On October 11 2010 07:05 mprs wrote:
So what does this all mean? Nothing really. Kespa or any organization would have been in that situation. The fact that Blizzard "needed" Kespa is really not true. Its not like they were living off Starcraft sales. In fact, since it was so much after release, $5 times a copy is negligible in the grand scheme of things when 11 million are paying $15 a month. Did Kespa need Blizzard? There would have been another game they could have used, so I doubt it.

On October 11 2010 07:05 mprs wrote:
Now on to IP rights. Not recognizing IP rights is very dangerous. If you look at World of Warcraft. Can you imagine if private servers were legal (they are not only because of IP rights)? It would make the game 100% free. Even better, the people running the server can charge less and take ALL the profits from Blizzard who put millions of dollars into the game. The same thing would happen with Diablo2, 3, and Starcraft 2.

On October 11 2010 07:05 mprs wrote:
On a more personal note, I really could not give a fuck about Kespa. And I'm not talking about the way the company runs. Lets ignore the fact that they run their teams similar to a military than the actual military. Lets ignore the fact that they control the ever living shit out of their players, as to not allow them to participate in any non-kespa-sanctioned tournaments (usually any tournaments outside of Korea). And last but not least, lets ignore the fact that they DQ'd players because they hit their enter key on accident and typed "/". The reason I don't care is because Kespa really does not care about E-sports out of Korea. They have done nothing to grow it outside of Korea (ok a match in China isn't really "outside of Korea"). However, If E-sports were to grow outside of Korea (you know, where all of us live), it would probably be due to Blizzard. This is why I want Blizzard to succeed and not Kespa.

On October 11 2010 21:00 hitthat wrote:


You still dont understand. They did not only made the game fandom growing. THEY PROTECTED IT FROM BEING DEAD.



Thats true, but Blizzard really gain a big profits with that, i suspect much more than they ever had without it.



Overrusing it is also dangerous, becouse it will make a lot of absurds pretty soon. But involving in the CONTRACTS is just intolerable.



"Dont giving fuck about KESPA" means "dont giving fuck about e-sport at all". This is the basic thing you dont understand. They are the true pioneers in profesional e-sport, the only thing that prevents any e-sport industry from stagnation. They dont slow down the e-sport abroad, in fact- they really mad the opposite. Samsung, the company involved in KeSPA was the one who sponsored the very first WCG as i remember exacly.

On October 11 2010 22:09 Holgerius wrote:
Someone please translate stuff like that. I'm dying to find out what's going on in the BW-scene.

On October 11 2010 22:33 Ryo wrote:SKT Head Coach's wife being pregnant.

On October 11 2010 23:09 Lightwip wrote:

But Park JUST got married. Did it happen before marriage?

On October 11 2010 23:43 PlaGuE_R wrote:
I totally agree! fuck blizzard! how DARE THEY make Brood War????? and how DARE THEY make SC2? and how DARE THEY make WC3?

....hold on a second, aren't those 3 games the most competitive RTS games there are? hey, correct me if i'm wrong but didnt BW spawn e-sports?

boo blizzard! booo! you suck. you guys need to realize that there are laws when it comes to making profits off of someone else's work, and this is just as much about KeSPA being douchebags as it is about blizzard being arrogant asses. Rooting for either is retarded. Backing KeSPA is retarded, 'oh there wouldnt be a pro scne without kespa' well there wouldnt be a fucking kespa without blizzard.