EPTI understand the reasoning behind Blizzard's decision but ultimately they do need KeSPA if they're going to build a successful scene in Korea. This is a big blow to the scene developing in Korea, but nowhere near fatal. Even though the release of the WoL is growing nearer this game will still be in development for years, leaving plenty of time for renewed negotiations. Eventually Blizzard will have to play ball here, no matter how unfair that game will be in KeSPA's favor.
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
I understand the reasoning behind Blizzard's decision but ultimately they do need KeSPA if they're going to build a successful scene in Korea. This is a big blow to the scene developing in Korea, but nowhere near fatal. Even though the release of the WoL is growing nearer this game will still be in development for years, leaving plenty of time for renewed negotiations. Eventually Blizzard will have to play ball here, no matter how unfair that game will be in KeSPA's favor. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
Edit: On April 25 2010 13:45 years wrote: Bringing down BW to make a point would be pretty stupid. They are barely making money off of Sc:Bw now, their main goal is Starcraft II's success as an E-sport. Its no skin off blizzards back to bring down Sc:Bw atleast for the time being. KeSPA is making money of off other people's work although KeSPA brought korean e-sports together. Starcraft II getting a Adult rating in Korea is obviously to do with KeSPA trying to get Sc:Bw around so they can continue making money. | ||
Waxangel
United States33701 Posts
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Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
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Milkis
5003 Posts
Excuse my ignorance but what does the issue exactly entail? Using Starcraft related images in advertisement? Or having Starcraft BW be so involved in such a huge competitive gaming scene? I honestly don't see a good reason Blizzard would have to make such a claim. | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
What the fuck is wrong with them? Anyways I think ESports will continue fine without KeSPA... | ||
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years
Costa Rica216 Posts
On April 25 2010 14:16 Waxangel wrote: anyone who says KeSPA has the goverment's support, please substantiate that statement. As far as I understand KeSPA is recognized and regulated by the Ministry of Culture, thus supported by a goverment institution. I don't know to what extent this support empowers KeSPA, but the fact alone that it is treated like an official representative of the Ministry of Culture gives it more leverage against Blizzard, specially if Korea is sensitive on subjects which can be interpreted through the patriotic or nationalist eyelens. It would be interesting to know more about the relationship between KeSPA and the Ministry, and how its viewed by larger government entities, presuming its even treated like something of importance. On April 25 2010 14:11 NuKedUFirst wrote: Edit: They are barely making money off of Sc:Bw now, their main goal is Starcraft II's success as an E-sport. Its no skin off blizzards back to bring down Sc:Bw atleast for the time being. KeSPA is making money of off other people's work although KeSPA brought korean e-sports together. Starcraft II getting a Adult rating in Korea is obviously to do with KeSPA trying to get Sc:Bw around so they can continue making money. I say its a dumb move because, bringing down BW, would probably deteriorate the image Blizzard has amongst e-sport fans in Korea. This is mere speculation though. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33701 Posts
On April 25 2010 14:26 n.DieJokes wrote: Can someone elaborate the specifics of what either party actually want from one another? In what capacity does Blizzard want KeSPA to respect their intellectual property? What is this thing about IP's and why does it matter? I think they want an agreement that they will pay them royalties in the future. | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1751 Posts
Blizzard can't do shit except making big cash prize tournament. I mean it's not like Korea, you're not gonna date or fuck chicks playing 15 hours a day. | ||
Spazer
Canada8036 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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moopie
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Jaester88
United States143 Posts
If there have been previous threads/articles that have shown that KeSPA was the one being unreasonable in negotiations, it would be much appreciated if someone could link the thread/article for me. Thanks. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On April 25 2010 12:54 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: This is PERFECT for a fairly casual player such as myself who doesn't give two shits about the pro scene in Korea. Kespa acted unreasonably and Blizzard responded in the way they should have - by pulling out completely. We'll end up with more English language tournaments and commentating. Sounds great to me. And substandard play... | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
Kespa is SKT1, it's Samsung, it's OGN/MBC, it's made up of all these big corps that have sponsored and financed esports all these years and made it possible while Blizzard sold 3+ million copies of SC in S.K. That's why they feel they can't budge. If someone took the paper that you made and did wonderful things with it, wouldn't they lay claim to the creation? Without these big corporate money and with just Blizz itself funding it SC2 scene would just be pitiful. It'd definitely roll back esports to small lan party tournies unless kespa can find another game for pros to play, or negotiate something that works for both sides. I'm interested in the terms proposed by Blizzard, and Kespa's counter. But I guess that'd take a long time... | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1751 Posts
Bah we all know sc2 is the rts of the noob. no question about that. | ||
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Go0g3n
Russian Federation410 Posts
Because the game is not recognized by Kespa, progamers, as owners of the license will be forbidden to play televised (if there will be any) matches, and there in fact will be no StarCraft 2 progamers at all in Korea. As for governmental support, a year or so back Blizzard appealed to Korean Ministry of Culture (not sure about exact name) after their first negotiations with Kespa and MBC/OGN failed, but they were sent back to deal with Kespa and threatened to set a 18+ mature rating for the game. Almost the same thing happened with China, only they gave the same rating 6 months earlier. | ||
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Gliche
United States811 Posts
And this is just talking about Korea. This says nothing about SC2 for the rest of the world, and if the recent tournaments and support for BW worldwide are any indication, KeSPA controls a very small piece of the potential pie. | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On April 25 2010 14:16 Waxangel wrote: anyone who says KeSPA has the goverment's support, please substantiate that statement. Because KeSPA is made up of big companies and big companies have a lot of influence in the Korean Government. | ||
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