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Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
April 30 2010 16:31 GMT
#621
i think e-sports for foreigners will stay exactly like it is now.
one WCG tourney.
one blizzcon tourney
they might add a ladder stage and try to get someone to broadcast it for them while paying royalties to blizzard, but thats a big if.
besides that, blizzard will NOT invest into the future of e-sports in NA. there is just too much risk of failure. in no way is pro gaming mainstream enough to gamble building an infrastructure where there are constant seasons of leagues, proleagues etc etc going on.

we are fucked.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
April 30 2010 16:55 GMT
#622
On May 01 2010 00:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 18:10 Polis wrote:
On April 29 2010 14:17 TheYango wrote:
I guess if you're fine with sponsors and managing bodies having very little respect for the well-being of their players, then yeah, KeSPA's vision of Esports is more compatible with you than Blizzard's.


1)Blizzard takes share in the profits.
2)???
3)Players well being goes up.

The fact that Blizzard does not have a direct hand in the ownership of progaming teams (and is unlikely to make such an acquisition means that they aren't in a position to gain from something that is such an anti-player piece of work as the Free Agency fiasco.

The thing about KeSPA is that because they are headed and run by the same companies that own proteams, it is very unlikely for them to enact major rulings to benefit players in a way that might in any way increase the costs for aforementioned companies.


If there will be progaming teams then they would also have an organization the only difference that Blizzard makes is that it would take some money from esports, Blizzard had never even asked to have any legal say in how pro teams are run, they want to decide in how tournaments are run, have all the right to the footage, and be paid when it is aired.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 07:18:04
May 01 2010 07:16 GMT
#623
What we really need is a NAeSPA

Or NAeSA?
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Oddysay
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada597 Posts
May 01 2010 11:41 GMT
#624
you guy trust blizzard too much , you will see what happen and im going to be almost happy to read your post in 2-3 year ( in a weird way ) .
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 01 2010 14:06 GMT
#625
On May 01 2010 16:16 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
What we really need is a NAeSPA

Or NAeSA?

If only there was enough interest to make that effective.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Smurfa
Profile Joined April 2010
Bulgaria11 Posts
May 02 2010 14:26 GMT
#626
As all the multiplayer games are in Battle.net now, Blizzard would be in position of providing a high quality infrastructure for tourneys (for a small fee or whatever) so basically everything happening in SC2 will be under Blizzard 'supervision'.
ReaverDrop!
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada81 Posts
May 02 2010 18:58 GMT
#627
Blizzard's got so much money they could delete everything Starcraft and be fucking rich for the rest of the their fat greedy lives, there's no doubt in that, at least for anyone who has even ever heard of World of Warcraft.

Kespa is fucked, who cares anyways they're just a group that provided a service to the players, they didn't develop the pro scene, we did and because we're the ones who can decide whether a game is worth our time or not whatever Kespa does won't matter since Blizzard owns the game.
Bloodninja, nuff said.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
May 02 2010 19:22 GMT
#628
blizzard is stupid
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
ROFLMAOZEDONG
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)2 Posts
May 02 2010 19:50 GMT
#629
Well, they should do that and make us pay to watch proleague on youtube channels since they own the copyrights. rofl... you guys are so stupid. Stop watching sc progaming if you dont pay then.
ROFLMAOZEDONG
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 20:18:48
May 02 2010 20:17 GMT
#630
There's no fucking game companies except Blizzard who demanded broadcasting fees.
Kyouya
Profile Joined January 2008
Mexico318 Posts
May 02 2010 20:24 GMT
#631
On May 01 2010 01:31 Garaman wrote:
i think e-sports for foreigners will stay exactly like it is now.
one WCG tourney.
one blizzcon tourney
they might add a ladder stage and try to get someone to broadcast it for them while paying royalties to blizzard, but thats a big if.
besides that, blizzard will NOT invest into the future of e-sports in NA. there is just too much risk of failure. in no way is pro gaming mainstream enough to gamble building an infrastructure where there are constant seasons of leagues, proleagues etc etc going on.

we are fucked.


This.
Strike First, Strike Hard, Show No Mercy.
Sugarman101
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia20 Posts
May 03 2010 03:38 GMT
#632
Wow, this forum is an interesting read. Quite a lot of supposition and conspiracy theory.

At the end of the day, we can speculate all we like on what might happen if Kespa goes down, or if Blizzard gets blocked in Korea; but neither of these events is likely to happen.

One probable scenario is that this is merely the latest negiotiating tactic on Blizzard's part, similar to Microsoft in the Yahoo deal last year. Ceasing negotiations is often a way to change the balance of power in future negotiations. How it plays out... well we'll have to wait and see.

One thing that I think is unnecessary is all the hate for Blizzard and Kespa. Both are organisations trying to make a profit, and both are probably well supplied with staff who genuinely care about what they do. Whether or not that caring informs final business decisions can only be guessed at. At the end of the day, it is the responsibility of the management teams to try and grow their company by moving into new markets, or expand on existing markets.

Blizzard has a good history of moving into markets where it's felt they have no business, and turning into a dominant force very quickly. It will be interesting to see how they manage with e-sports.
All that we see or seem, is but a dream within a dream. - E.A. Poe
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
May 03 2010 03:50 GMT
#633
On May 01 2010 00:19 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2010 18:19 Qikz wrote:
On April 29 2010 14:44 slowmanrunning wrote:
1 unanounced mmorpg!? 0_o world of starcraft anyone?


They said long ago it's not going to be diablo or starcraft.


lol, world of starcraft.

"You may choose one of three races: the terran, the zerg, or the protoss."

everybody would want to be a battlecruiser xO


that would be pretty sick, i'm imagining a large-scale c&c renegade here, that game was pretty fun multiplayer
HollOwed
Profile Joined April 2010
United States17 Posts
May 03 2010 20:45 GMT
#634
Wow....just wow.
SturmAddict
Profile Joined October 2009
Malaysia176 Posts
May 03 2010 22:56 GMT
#635
Well as long as its not another EVE space game ill be happy driving battlecruisers.

Imagine spending 39 days training "Yamato gun Specialisation Lv V"
Bearigator
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States233 Posts
May 03 2010 23:57 GMT
#636
Thank you very much. Here is a link to the thread if you have any interest.

http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6845948#post6845948

Have a great day.
Bearigator
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States233 Posts
May 04 2010 00:05 GMT
#637
EDIT: Wrong thread
zaMNal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Mongolia385 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-04 09:28:24
May 04 2010 09:25 GMT
#638
can someone please help me find the email addresses of Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime or COO Paul Sams or Blizzard's esports department? i have a proposition for them.

edit: grammar
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 04 2010 09:29 GMT
#639
On May 04 2010 18:25 sinK wrote:
can someone please help me find the email addresses of Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime or COO Paul Sams or Blizzard's esports department? i have a proposition for them.

edit: grammar

lol
zaMNal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Mongolia385 Posts
May 04 2010 09:40 GMT
#640
i'm totally serious btw. any admin can help maybe? u must be in contact with blizzards esports department
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