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Blizzard to cease negotiations with KeSPA - Page 31
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
everyone else just wants to play FPS/MMO. | ||
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chessmaster
United States268 Posts
Radiomouse Netherlands. April 27 2010 21:26. Posts 106 PM Profile Quote # I'm sick of reading people saying that KeSPA created e-sports in korea. Learn the history behind KeSPA instead of making false assumptions. Also, korean e-sports is not flawless by far. I'd much rather have a players association, instead of an organisation like KeSPA. I've been saying this for years.. the players badly need to form a union / when it comes to e-sports the players and the game are the value here kespa isnt even necessary in a subjective sense , and if there is money to be made a new kespa-like org will emerge( as simple as demand being filled by a supply, someone will fill it ) However saying Blizzard doesn't deserve compensation for thier intellectual property is just absurd. How much they are asking for is another story ; you can call them greedy if you want . In the end if they are too greedy then no one will work with them because the figures won't work out , if this is the case they will sponsor it themselves , as in GOM , But that is for the lawyers to work out . In any event if there is money to made made they will work it out with kespa or without them . I just hope if sc2 becomes as popular the players are smart enough to form a union block with some power this time , because without them there is no draw ..... How many people line up to watch kespa officials make retarded decisions , or to view kespa officials play sc for that matter , or completely fail at running major events ( power outage)well we all lined up for that one but not happily ( maybe some of the players that fixed games can use that money to pay blizzard and make a players run league ..... ( joking  where they make salaries that dont require cheating to insure ones future and still commit ones entire young adult life .. instead of going to college or getting another job ;playing SC into thier 20's and 30's(rarely) with absolutely no job security | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 29 2010 09:05 nimoraca wrote: The only problem is that I don't like the vision that Blizz has for eSports. By reading the interview with Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime where he says "Our understanding of E-sports is as a community project that increases the enjoyment of the game for the players." I'm almost certain that they don't understand what eSports really means in Korea, and what it means to people like TL netizens. Sure SC2 will end up being popular in the US and Europe, but will it achieve what SCBW achieved in Korea. I'm afraid not. After 10 years of watching competitive SCBW at an unbelievable level of skill, I can't just return to watching players that play SC2 just for fun or at a semi pro level, with a tournament now and then. I need those 12-14 hour a day practicing monsters. I guess if you're fine with sponsors and managing bodies having very little respect for the well-being of their players, then yeah, KeSPA's vision of Esports is more compatible with you than Blizzard's. | ||
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slowmanrunning
Canada285 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 29 2010 16:03 Boonbag wrote: 9 out of 10 people posting in this thread don't know what Kespa is. The real question is how many people are supporting Kespa without knowing all the detriment they've been to the competitive SC community and are just using this thread as a venue to rage at Blizzard. | ||
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nimoraca
Serbia84 Posts
On April 29 2010 16:54 TheYango wrote: The real question is how many people are supporting Kespa without knowing all the detriment they've been to the competitive SC community and are just using this thread as a venue to rage at Blizzard. And also, how many people are using this thread to bash KeSPA for some bad decisions during the past 8 yeras. Nobody is defending KeSPA. They did same bad shit. And yes, progaming is not here because of KeSPA. KeSPA is here because of progaming, meaning KeSPA was created because it was needed. KeSPA is composed of big teams and big corporate sponsors. Some of them (like Samsung) have 35 times the revenue of Activision/Blizzard (according to wikipedia). Blizz needs those sponsors if it wants SC2 to be successful in Korea. It can't just spit in KeSPAa face and expect to create something as successful as SCBW in Korea. | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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RecYouGood
Canada44 Posts
The question is if KeSPA can exist without SC2 | ||
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kangur
29 Posts
On April 29 2010 14:17 TheYango wrote: I guess if you're fine with sponsors and managing bodies having very little respect for the well-being of their players, then yeah, KeSPA's vision of Esports is more compatible with you than Blizzard's. Oh come on, pretend to be moral somewhere else. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 27 2010 00:13 BDF92 wrote: Why is kespa making so much of a fuss paying for sc2? Its not like they get their other games for free(except sc1) the least they could do is pay up considering the success sc1 has brought them. This bears repeating. If Kespa pays to broadcast the rest of their games, I don't see how this can even be open for debate. You might not like the thought of Blizzard trying to take control of their game, but Kespa has already demonstrated that they should be paying to get the rights to games. | ||
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
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roymarthyup
1442 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 29 2010 16:03 Boonbag wrote: 9 out of 10 people posting in this thread don't know what Kespa is. Jeez thats generous. I would say 49/50 or 99/100. | ||
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Polis
Poland1292 Posts
On April 29 2010 14:17 TheYango wrote: I guess if you're fine with sponsors and managing bodies having very little respect for the well-being of their players, then yeah, KeSPA's vision of Esports is more compatible with you than Blizzard's. 1)Blizzard takes share in the profits. 2)??? 3)Players well being goes up. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On April 25 2010 12:32 bearbuddy wrote: I don't think this has any bearing on sc1, just sc2 this. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On April 29 2010 14:44 slowmanrunning wrote: 1 unanounced mmorpg!? 0_o world of starcraft anyone? They said long ago it's not going to be diablo or starcraft. | ||
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immacolate
Serbia199 Posts
I guess if you're fine with sponsors and managing bodies having very little respect for the well-being of their players, then yeah, KeSPA's vision of Esports is more compatible with you than Blizzard's. 12-14 hours a day is too much in my opinion, and probably an exaggeration. still, how many hours do you think that gary kasparov had to train (starting at the age of 10!!) to become the best chess player of all time? same goes for classical musicians, masters of piano or violin or whatever. you think they were just sitting on their asses while growing up and the music skills simply came to them? no man, road to success is covered with dedication and hard, hard work, starting at a very young age. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 30 2010 18:10 Polis wrote: 1)Blizzard takes share in the profits. 2)??? 3)Players well being goes up. The fact that Blizzard does not have a direct hand in the ownership of progaming teams (and is unlikely to make such an acquisition means that they aren't in a position to gain from something that is such an anti-player piece of work as the Free Agency fiasco. The thing about KeSPA is that because they are headed and run by the same companies that own proteams, it is very unlikely for them to enact major rulings to benefit players in a way that might in any way increase the costs for aforementioned companies. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
On April 30 2010 18:19 Qikz wrote: They said long ago it's not going to be diablo or starcraft. lol, world of starcraft. "You may choose one of three races: the terran, the zerg, or the protoss." everybody would want to be a battlecruiser xO | ||
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