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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
June 14 2008 16:13 GMT
#1
i'm looking for advice from anyone here thanks TL <3

a short bio of myself:

im from hong kong, lived in canada, i'm fluent in english, and i've always loved art. also did a bit of art in school have always done well, got A in art for IGCSE exams (the exams before the last 2 years of high school i don't know the equivalent in the american system lol) then in my last 2 years of high school got a totally shit grade because it was like fine art and all talking about deep concepts weird crap i was like wtff and thus with my better grades in english and history i decided to go to law school thinking i had no hope in an art/design related course with no portfolio and bad grades etc...

currently i study law in england (in my 2nd year now) i'm doing...alright i guess not exceptionally well but not too bad either. but lately i've been thinking hard because i've never really truly escaped from art and design related things i'm always drawing stuff for people or designing posters and tickets and that kind of thing. and i've realized that i don't really have any passion for becoming a lawyer or whatever no matter how much money i might make in the process.

i've been thinking maybe after i finish my last year of law next year i could possibly go to an art school or something instead? but i would feel really guilty for making my parents finance me to study another 3 or 4 years. also i'm going to turn 20 soon so is it too late to change my whole career path and life around now?! and lastly although i've been drawing a bit throughout my life i've never drawn that seriously and say if i wanted to be a concept artist for games and movies and the like i would have sooo much to catch up on i'd have to like practice drawing everything in the world everyday and study colour and light and all that jazz

so HELP i'm in this like period in life where decisions start becoming important and im getting old (sorta.. i guess lol) and like things could be life changing and all that shit

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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
June 14 2008 16:25 GMT
#2
do what you want. not what your parents want. they don't own you. your parents are there to help you. if you go become a lawyer just because they helped you get through college in it and then live a sad life i'm sure they won't like that.

always do what you enjoy.
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Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-14 16:30:21
June 14 2008 16:27 GMT
#3
If you want it badly, pay for it yourself. Otherwise, you made your bed and you know what to do.

A good art school is going to be expensive. My girlfriend goes to RISD (Rhode Island School of Design) - one of the best in the nation. I don't know how the work load compares to other top art schools, such as MICA. However, from what I've learned from her and her friends is they have 8 hour days M-F and an incredible amount of projects that take numerous hours to do. I'm not sure of the percentage but from what I've gathered, the drop out rate is pretty high. Its extremely challenging and drug use is rampant.
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HighTimes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan342 Posts
June 14 2008 16:29 GMT
#4
old? 20?
im 22, i have quit 2 univesities so far, going to try my 3rd from this september lol
yeah, i felt bad for my parents, so i tried hard and got scholarship (well not really hard....)

I don't know if you can do that, but maybe you can finish your 2nd year, get your credits and finish your studies online later? Or smth...

One of my classmates is finishing her bachelor in Czech Rep. (her homecountry) online, while learning mandarin here in Taiwan.

BTW, life is too short to do things you don't like...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gvD9G5uDfo
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
June 14 2008 16:31 GMT
#5
fuck me...
was it ever too late for something?
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 14 2008 16:32 GMT
#6
It's not too late to switch to something else, especially at the age of 20. It's not the norm, but you see many examples of people in some ordinary area of study deciding at 20-25 they can make a run for it in the arts, and ending up at the top of their fields.

In your case I would be wary of attempting such a move if you seemed to have little affinity for that fine arts course. I'd think the kinds of things learned there should be something you love and understand as a basis for what else you branch out into and not just some course to pass through or some tools of the trade that must be learned. Of course, that characterization of you might not be fair (couldn't tell 100% from what you said), but you get the idea.

In this kind of field, you should ask yourself what kind of drawing work you would be willing to actually do. What if you can't do the kind of drawing you want to do for a job? Would you be content drawing what you want in your spare time and doing say graphic design for a living? Or at least getting by doing things like that for at least a few years? It's all about your motivations now and what they would be five or thirty years down the road once drawing is no longer a diversion or a hobby, but what you have to do.

If you have strong feelings towards art school at least at the moment, I suggest you start putting together a substantial portfolio. Get some advice or tips from real people while you're at it. Then you can see where things stand from there, how you stack up, what kinds of things you can still learn, etc.
Malmis
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Sweden1569 Posts
June 14 2008 16:34 GMT
#7
I'm 20 and i haven't even gotten in to law school yet lolz (most likely will this fall tho)

so

no you're not too you lolz
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Ryot
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada316 Posts
June 14 2008 16:36 GMT
#8
It's never too late to do what you love. I remember a chess professional retiring and then going on to learn the piano as it was something he wanted to do since a child but never got the opprotunity to do. Do what makes you happy, otherwise what's the point?
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
June 14 2008 16:38 GMT
#9
Oh man i have the same regrets than you. I always liked to draw ( althought i'm not really good ).
But because of my family i chose to study dull math / economics ( i'm worse at it and less interested in ).

But if really you like it you should try because having this kind of regrets ruin your life.

Oh and life sucks.
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Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
June 14 2008 16:47 GMT
#10
If ur from asia then I can understand your situation. Life is hard and competition is high so sometimes future security is put higher than personal choice...

In my opinion, you should sit and talk to your parent about ur decision since they're paying for the school fee. Naturally they would just react negatively since human tense to avoid risk. But explain to them that you wouldn't do good in law if you don't have the desire in the first place so it's a dead end anyway.

Basically they refuse you just to test out how serious you are. So if ur determined then they will understand ur choice.

So think carefully and decide your life.

Tip #1: Ask your university if is it possible to save your study progress and resume it later after 1 year or something. This would minimize the risk in case you want to change your mind later on.

Tip #2: You're never too old to do something. If you don't want to take risk then just complete your degree. Then you can decide. It is safer this way in my opinion.
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
June 14 2008 17:14 GMT
#11
On June 15 2008 01:27 Dknight wrote:
If you want it badly, pay for it yourself. Otherwise, you made your bed and you know what to do.

A good art school is going to be expensive. My girlfriend goes to RISD (Rhode Island School of Design) - one of the best in the nation. I don't know how the work load compares to other top art schools, such as MICA. However, from what I've learned from her and her friends is they have 8 hour days M-F and an incredible amount of projects that take numerous hours to do. I'm not sure of the percentage but from what I've gathered, the drop out rate is pretty high. Its extremely challenging and drug use is rampant.

She's in RISD?? o.o, yeah that is top notch. Is the drug use for creativity boost or just the work is too stressful?
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
June 14 2008 17:25 GMT
#12
On June 15 2008 01:25 Artosis wrote:
do what you want. not what your parents want. they don't own you. your parents are there to help you. if you go become a lawyer just because they helped you get through college in it and then live a sad life i'm sure they won't like that.

always do what you enjoy.


They don't have to pay your bills. If you're not cool with the possibility of having to pay for your own schooling, then you better make sure your parents are okay with it.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 14 2008 17:26 GMT
#13
On June 15 2008 02:14 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2008 01:27 Dknight wrote:
If you want it badly, pay for it yourself. Otherwise, you made your bed and you know what to do.

A good art school is going to be expensive. My girlfriend goes to RISD (Rhode Island School of Design) - one of the best in the nation. I don't know how the work load compares to other top art schools, such as MICA. However, from what I've learned from her and her friends is they have 8 hour days M-F and an incredible amount of projects that take numerous hours to do. I'm not sure of the percentage but from what I've gathered, the drop out rate is pretty high. Its extremely challenging and drug use is rampant.

She's in RISD?? o.o, yeah that is top notch. Is the drug use for creativity boost or just the work is too stressful?


Drug use in art schools, from what I've seen personally and heard, has more to do with the psychological disposition of the students than to explicitly boost creativity or escape from the demands of the work. I don't want to make sweeping generalizations, but people drawn to an area of study X tend to be more likely than average to be more like Y (e.g. computer science majors are more likely than average to be otaku). Drug use certainly isn't a requirement to be good or anything like that.
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1654 Posts
June 14 2008 17:29 GMT
#14
If you really enjoy doing art, I'd say give it a shot! Your art is too good to be left as a hobby.
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Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
June 14 2008 18:01 GMT
#15
learn from experience:
one of my friend was just like you, he liked art and stuff and studied both art and finance at the same time. When he graduate he applied for an art job.

After 1 year, he quited and follow the easy path.
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
defenestrate
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
June 14 2008 18:03 GMT
#16
Do it. Maybe wait a year or two so you can pay for it yourself, but definitely do it.
We believe that we invent symbols. The truth is that they invent us; we are their creatures, shaped by their hard, defining edges.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 14 2008 18:50 GMT
#17
I think you should go for law personally
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 14 2008 18:52 GMT
#18
Always do what you enjoy, because then it won´t matter how much you get paid- it´s all bonus becuase you´re getting paid for something that you would do for free.

And having a backup plan of being a lawyer isn´t that bad of a deal either.

That being said, you should post some art i´m sure that tl.net would enjoy it
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
June 14 2008 19:00 GMT
#19
It almost (ALMOST) pissed me off when you called yourself old lol.

I'm 23 and i have NO idea whatsoever on what i want to do, i have applied to two 3d design/digital compositioning universities and one language thing, depending on how that goes i'm starting school again in September.

I have heard that Asian parents tend to be a bit more strict so i don't really know what that's like for you (i assume you have Asian parents :S), all i know is that my parents have always been like "just do whatever you think feels right" etc. so i guess i'm pretty lucky, but then again studying in Sweden is pretty much free, so yeah...

All in all, it's never ever to late to do anything, and do not under any circumstances give up your dreams just because it might be the easy way for the moment, you will (believe me) regret it in the end.
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Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-14 19:32:11
June 14 2008 19:30 GMT
#20
Hey alffla,

I'm a law graduate in the UK and I'm just about to finish the LPC so feel free to ask me anything about solicitor firms if you're going down that route. (My knowledge of the Bar is pretty bad though..).

If it's any consolation, I found academic law to be really fucking boring but I still want a legal career. Legal practice is completely different from what you do at uni, so don't be too dissuaded if Williams v. Roffey Brothers gets a little dull on the third reading... Since you're in 2nd year, I guess you have some vacation schemes or mini-pupillages lined up this summer? You should definitely postpone any major decision until after these as you will be amazed at how different practice is.

One thing I have to stress is that you are definitely still very young and it is definitely not too late to pursue another profession. Generally, as people have said, you're going to be 21 when you graduate and with your degree the world is your frucking oyster! In the law-context, starting the LPC when you're 21/22 is also really young. Most people here are around 24 (conversion course, gap years etc.) so theres enough time for you to do another degree, maybe find its not for you and still come back to do the LPC "in-sync" with your legal peers.
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