EPTWhy are people who could easily play C+ with their 250 APM insist on newbbashing D games all the time?
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naventus
United States1337 Posts
Why are people who could easily play C+ with their 250 APM insist on newbbashing D games all the time? | ||
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raiame
United States421 Posts
There are some people with APM that high who are legitimate D/D+s. | ||
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village_idiot
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
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Substandard
Italy270 Posts
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Red.Cloud
Canada235 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:00 raiame wrote: Well, not all people with 250 APM are going to be C+... it takes a lot more than just that to get there. There are some people with APM that high who are legitimate D/D+s. no d's at 250 apm unless spaming and to answer question once they reace a certain rank and are not destroying every1 and getting some losses they like to restart and get better stats, but there are people like white-ra who and majesty_cz that play like 1000 a season with no restarts, simple reason they wanna get better most people just like to win and playing vs better people should be good for you since u learn, but it is annoying losing to D players when u know u r a better rank and you are thinking wtf | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
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naventus
United States1337 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:26 fanatacist wrote: That's why if you're smart and are trying to climb the ladder, you don't play D's who have like 5-0 or 0-0 stats. This. There are plenty of C players at D - and they have these sort of accounts. But you can't see their stats unless you check the website. So how are you to know that the 2000 you are playing is like 12-0. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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Straylight
Canada706 Posts
Jeez man. | ||
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XCetron
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:30 naventus wrote: This. There are plenty of C players at D - and they have these sort of accounts. But you can't see their stats unless you check the website. So how are you to know that the 2000 you are playing is like 12-0. Really? Is this a recent change? Because I remember when ICCup worked for me (up until April) you could see stats AND score. | ||
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-slo.m1ke-
Slovenia352 Posts
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iNCuBuS_
United States905 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:50 -slo.m1ke- wrote: i lost vs. a 40apm guy. but i was dumb. No way, replay? lol Also, Im sure a lot of people who might get to D+ or C- (or in your case, C+...) get there and then they start to lose some games or struggle to maintain their rank, so they make a new account to play against people they dont necessarily have to try as hard against. | ||
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Canada784 Posts
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vAltyR
United States581 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:30 naventus wrote: This. There are plenty of C players at D - and they have these sort of accounts. But you can't see their stats unless you check the website. So how are you to know that the 2000 you are playing is like 12-0. Use the /stats command. type "/stats [enter name here]" and it'll show their point ranking. Unfortunately, it won't tell you their record, but you can at least roughly figure it out if you're at a major point deficit. | ||
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Substandard
Italy270 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
I am at D+ atm and I haven't played a zerg under 300 apm in over a month | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:50 -slo.m1ke- wrote: i lost vs. a 40apm guy. but i was dumb. Haha I wonder if it was me. I used to smurf D back in the summer when I was C and I'd try to play with as low apm as possible. Me and my friend haemonculus would see how low we could get our APM with still winning a game. The lowest I ever got was 37 apm and still won the game. Highest ratio game (highest enemy apm vs lowest my apm and still winning) was when I had 50 apm and my opponent was 200 apm zerg. lol | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On October 25 2008 01:58 naventus wrote: Why the fuck do so many people just smurf and play against D? Why are people who could easily play C+ with their 250 APM insist on newbbashing D games all the time? I think I may have just played you, I made a smurf account just to fool around on. | ||
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Zuries
United Kingdom156 Posts
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littlechava
United States7218 Posts
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EGLzGaMeR
United States1867 Posts
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On October 25 2008 04:03 Lz wrote: im B allmost B+ and i dont have no 250apm. Judging skill by apm is silly anyone can go 123123123123123123123 and suck. Yes but not having 250 apm and making good smart decisions is rarer than a mechanics machine it seems. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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micronesia
United States24698 Posts
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On October 25 2008 03:47 Salv wrote: I think I may have just played you, I made a smurf account just to fool around on. salv u dont have 250 apm with anyrace..  | ||
Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On October 25 2008 06:44 Chill wrote: yea that was me sorry bro funny thing is I believe it | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
no d's at 250 apm unless spaming I average 300+ APM with 160+ EAPM, and I haven't made it to D+ yet, so what do you say? | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:30 Zoler wrote: There is like 1 D+ in a million which has 250+ apm not a million people play sc ..... right? | ||
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
then i went 0-6 against protosses who hid dt tech or other gay stuff | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Or there's the ones that say something along the lines of: "lol, u got lucky noob, I'm B+ high" "gg go re?" combat-ex has left the game. | ||
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:30 Zoler wrote: There is like 1 D+ in a million which has 250+ apm I'm D+ and get 250+ apm O.O BUT I have horrible timing and shit game sense, thus my shit rank! I wouldn't be surprised if there were lots of D+ players who had that much apm, without randomly spamming! | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On October 25 2008 11:22 EtherealDeath wrote: I'm D+ and get 250+ apm O.O BUT I have horrible timing and shit game sense, thus my shit rank! I wouldn't be surprised if there were lots of D+ players who had that much apm, without randomly spamming! I don't think APM is all that accurate. For example, a friend was over the other day to do some studying and he wanted to watch me play a game of SC. I played a lot worse than usual with him watching. I had 170 APM (my high average) that game and 130eapm. I could feel myself doing things a lot slower and yet my APM was still high. I must have been doing a lot of unnecessary actions because I was anxious. This also caused me to delay important things (like lurkers or hive tech) and every second counts. Therefore, you might have really high APM but all you're really doing is spamming. It also shows that eapm isn't an accurate indicator of your playing ability even though it might be better than apm. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Eapm (Effective APM) Is the only viable measure of the player's real speed. And it shows nothing but the speed itself. Fast idiot <<< Smart Panda | ||
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JMave
Singapore1803 Posts
On October 25 2008 01:58 naventus wrote: Why the fuck do so many people just smurf and play against D? Why are people who could easily play C+ with their 250 APM insist on newbbashing D games all the time? Dude.. I'm almost like 280 apm and I'm a real noob ok. | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
also, @ topic: Just because someone is D and could probably hit C or whatever doesn't mean they're noob bashing, probably just climbing the ladder and the fastest way to do that is to play people your own rank. | ||
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ish0wstopper
Korea (South)342 Posts
alot of people just simply spam keys and dont really use their apm | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
On October 25 2008 06:47 d1v wrote: I average 300+ APM with 160+ EAPM, and I haven't made it to D+ yet, so what do you say? Slow down and think about wtf you're doing with all those actions.... | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On October 25 2008 06:49 Nytefish wrote: I love it when I play one of these "noob-bashers" and beat them (I don't play much so by the time I'm out of D the new season has started). They get really annoyed and start cussing me for playing below my rank. Or there's the ones that say something along the lines of: "lol, u got lucky noob, I'm B+ high" "gg go re?" combat-ex has left the game. LOLOLOLOLOLOL | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
On October 27 2008 01:35 Tropics wrote: What measures eAPM? also, @ topic: Just because someone is D and could probably hit C or whatever doesn't mean they're noob bashing, probably just climbing the ladder and the fastest way to do that is to play people your own rank. BWRepInfo can tell you APM and eAPM. http://bwrepinfo.narod.ru/ | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6636 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On October 27 2008 03:36 Jonoman92 wrote: Slow down and think about wtf you're doing with all those actions.... well you play terran... even d level terrans have 150 APM, and lots have 200-250 the thing holding me back isnt my macro, its all the formations and stuff that can only be learned through experience so just keep playing | ||
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slained
Canada966 Posts
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
Not seeing why this is so funny | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6636 Posts
You need to go find out who combat-ex is then. | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
On October 27 2008 03:36 Jonoman92 wrote: Slow down and think about wtf you're doing with all those actions.... I would, but there's nobody to tell me what to do. Haven't seen any really good Terran guide yet. TvZ is no problem at all, but TvP is totally strange imo  | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
so once you hit mid D, only mid level D+ will play you, and like mid level ds will join and then leave which is annoying as hell | ||
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ZeeTemplar
United States557 Posts
but yeah apm doesnt mean much unless you know what to do with it | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
so yeah it's really hard to believe, but at least on ladders everyone and their mother has 200+ now | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Which is unreal to me, because I consider 140 apm to be really good for me. ;x And I can hit D+ with a little work. -_- | ||
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