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I am bored and restless, but I do not wish to take too unskilled of an action. So I will remedy the situation by taking a skilled action.
This blog post is an attempt to create discussion. The topic is life. Your life, my life, the lives of humans and animals and anything living.
What do we go through. Why do we experience what we experience. Is there a point? Is there a god?
Questions, comments, suggestions, insults, anything is fine. Just say what you believe to be a contribution of some sort. Questions are probably the most fun(for me), though.
Here are some words to get people's brains working:
religion
consciousness
emotion
sensation
morality
death
birth
sleeping
dreaming
just say what is on your mind, question or statement. don't be afraid!
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Starcraft. To elaborate I think the meaning of existence is to be yourself, don't let other people define you just like Nintu; he tried to tell everybody valks can be viable they laughed in his face. But know because Valks are really just hydralisks in halloween costumes why? because overlords are fucking scared of them so on halloween they go to the hive cluster and are like:
*Knock knock*
Trick or treat - hydralisk valk
AAAAAHH VALKS RUNNNNNN MASS BUILD OVERLORDS! ALL OF OUR MINERALS! - Zergling
Nigga it's me - Hydralisk Valk
TAKE OFF TEH COSTUMEZ I DUN BELIEVE YOU! - Ultralisk
what the fuck man settle down it's halloween remember? - hydralisk valk
Valkyrie preparedx12 - medic valk
What the hell was that? - mutalisk
eaueaueau - mutalisks dieing
what the fuck man?! - hydralisk valk
build some fucking hydras to kill these nigs - kerrigan
We can't they killed all of our overlords - drone
WHAT THE FUCK?! - Zerg race
Do you understand now?
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I used to love playing starcraft when I had enough time to be great at it. I really enjoy competition.
But these days I just get destroyed by decent players and that isn't fun for me at all.
I still watch it from time to time, though.
It's funny, since I started playing starcraft, my entire life has largely been shaped by it. That's almost half of my life !
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You don't exist. This thread doesn't exist. Wake up travis, wake up.
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I believe in christianity, but its pretty hard defending it with the following questions:
1: If God is so good, why is the world suffering
2: God's actions to completely screw Job up was pretty interesting...
First, it ruins Job's entire life by killing family members, losing merchandise and goods
Then it ruins Job's body by giving sores, just for what?
To prove a point to Satan that hes righteous
Now that sounds illogical yes?
For the second opinion, I believe that we use Logic..
Logic is basically in example : I play starcraft because it is fun
Religion in a way ( well for christianity it is.. ) requires illogical things, and you need to get rid of logic to believe in that way
Flame me if you wish, but bring reasoning,
Because I just want to know the truth
"There is no greater satisfaction than a clearer mind" Chad Docterman
:edit:
I obviously have more questions than those,
they were the ones that just poped out of the top of my head
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On October 06 2008 07:25 decafchicken wrote:
You don't exist. This thread doesn't exist. Wake up travis, wake up.
How can I wake up if I don't exist?
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There is a god.
That god is called Lim Yo Hwan! Join my religion, the Boxer religion! The year 1980 (which was in fact year 0 but the cristians has made up things that like some imaginary god created earth 2000 years ago. LOL!) Lim Yo Hwan created the earth. He created peoples to live there and he made himself a human to live there together with his creations.
When Lim Yo Hwan had grown to 18 years old he was really really bored. So he created a new game, and he called it Starcraft. It was made to be the ultimate game. Since he made the game he dominated everything for a while. Then suddenly, an enemy appeared. It was YellOw. Boxer saw YellOw play and saw that he was almost as good as he was. YellOw later called Boxer. "Hello, Lim Yo Hwan, this is Satan, the devil himself. I've taken the form of a human to destroy you in SC and after that dominate the world!" Lim Yo Hwan had to defend the world. He practiced relentlessly, Boxer and YellOw met in the OSL finals 2002, and YellOw was defeated. The world was safe.
Boxer continued to dominate, but that became boring, so he created a human, his son, to revolutionize Starcraft and dominate like no one had done before. He named his son Iloveoov.
A few years later he Lim Yo Hwan suddenly had to go to the army service, "why not?" he thought. "It might be fun."
It wasn't. Lim Yo Hwan really wanted to play SC 24/7 again. He was a god, but he didn't want to blow his cover as a human so he waited.... Soon Lim Yo Hwan will be back to dominate SC! We must pray to him!
LIM YO HWAN!!! LIM YO HWAN!!!
The religion has three rules which you must follow:
- Pray to Lim Yo Hwan and his son Iloveoov
- Play SC 24/7 unless you are praying
- Never EVER play wc3
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On October 06 2008 07:29 Folca wrote:
I believe in christianity, but its pretty hard defending it with the following questions:
1: If God is so good, why is the world suffering
Not that I believe in "god" (actually, I have yet to see a good definition of him from a christian/muslim/jew), but I will attempt to give viable answers to your questions anyways.
a.) because god gave us free will and we have put our selves in whatever situation we are in.
b.) because it's necessary
2: God's actions to completely screw Job up was pretty interesting...
First, it ruins Job's entire life by killing family members, losing merchandise and goods
Then it ruins Job's body by giving sores, just for what?
It was a test, Job passed.
To prove a point to Satan that hes righteous
Now that sounds illogical yes?
Well, in the end, Job is rewarded. It is a story and I think it is conveying a message.
For the second opinion, I believe that we use Logic..
Logic is basically in example : I play starcraft because it is fun
Religion in a way ( well for christianity it is.. ) requires illogical things, and you need to get rid of logic to believe in that way
logic is based upon criteria. These criteria change with one's understanding of nature.
(by nature i mean: the way things are)
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On October 06 2008 07:29 Folca wrote:
I believe in christianity, but its pretty hard defending it with the following questions:
1: If God is so good, why is the world suffering
2: God's actions to completely screw Job up was pretty interesting...
First, it ruins Job's entire life by killing family members, losing merchandise and goods
Then it ruins Job's body by giving sores, just for what?
To prove a point to Satan that hes righteous
Now that sounds illogical yes?
For the second opinion, I believe that we use Logic..
Logic is basically in example : I play starcraft because it is fun
Religion in a way ( well for christianity it is.. ) requires illogical things, and you need to get rid of logic to believe in that way
Flame me if you wish, but bring reasoning,
Because I just want to know the truth
"There is no greater satisfaction than a clearer mind" Chad Docterman
:edit:
I obviously have more questions than those,
they were the ones that just poped out of the top of my head
You mentioned Satan, If God is all powerful and all good, why is there Satan?
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A middle aged woman is in a persistive vegetative state. She has some higher brain activity, but not a lot. Her family wants the hospital to keep her on a ventilator because they believe God will intervene and save her. The doctors diagnose that the prospects of her recovery are bleak. They want to remove her from the ventilator to make bed space for another patient. What should the course of action be?
This scenario includes: Religion (God), consciousness, morality, death, emotion, sensation, maybe more...
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On October 06 2008 07:41 Rotodyne wrote:
You mentioned Satan, If God is all powerful and all good, why is there Satan?
because you can't come to understand god without understanding satan.
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On October 06 2008 07:43 GrayArea wrote:
A middle aged woman is in a persistive vegetative state. She has some higher brain activity, but not a lot. Her family wants the hospital to keep her on a ventilator because they believe God will intervene and save her. The doctors diagnose that the prospects of her recovery are bleak. They want to remove her from the ventilator to make bed space for another patient. What should the course of action be?
This scenario includes: Religion (God), consciousness, morality, death, emotion, sensation, maybe more...
1.) Did the woman express prior wishes that would push the decision in either direction? If so, this should take priority.
2.) Is the woman known to be in torment as a result of her state? If so, she should be taken off of the ventilator.
3.) If neither of these 2 conditions are met, the woman should be kept on the ventilator. People in this state still experience things.
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i will claim sancturary under travis's thread, which don't seemed to get as closed as often as other ppl's topics about religion or other controvorsial stuff.
a great book presenting the christian side thru philosophy quite logically is C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. he starts out assuming nothing about god, or religion. he goes thru a lot of fundamental existence, the rationalism, the implications of the existence of a thing called conscience, and then finally steps into whether the supernatural could exist or not. Recommended for all those who say Christianity is illogical, irrational, and the only logic relies in evolution.
another eye openning bit of info:
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-Video-TotalOnslaught.html
learn about Revelation, the occult throughout history, and where their bastion is now.
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On October 06 2008 07:56 babypo0 wrote:i will claim sancturary under travis's thread, which don't seemed to get as closed as often as other ppl's topics about religion or other controvorsial stuff. a great book presenting the christian side thru philosophy quite logically is C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. he starts out assuming nothing about god, or religion. he goes thru a lot of fundamental existence, the rationalism, the implications of the existence of a thing called conscience, and then finally steps into whether the supernatural could exist or not. Recommended for all those who say Christianity is illogical, irrational, and the only logic relies in evolution. another eye openning bit of info: http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-Video-TotalOnslaught.htmllearn about Revelation, the occult throughout history, and where their bastion is now.
I am watching this video, and at the very beginning the guy mentions that "jesus said that there is no way to god, except through him".
I have heard this is Christianity before. What does this mean?
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On October 06 2008 07:53 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 07:43 GrayArea wrote:
A middle aged woman is in a persistive vegetative state. She has some higher brain activity, but not a lot. Her family wants the hospital to keep her on a ventilator because they believe God will intervene and save her. The doctors diagnose that the prospects of her recovery are bleak. They want to remove her from the ventilator to make bed space for another patient. What should the course of action be?
This scenario includes: Religion (God), consciousness, morality, death, emotion, sensation, maybe more... 1.) Did the woman express prior wishes that would push the decision in either direction? If so, this should take priority. 2.) Is the woman known to be in torment as a result of her state? If so, she should be taken off of the ventilator. 3.) If neither of these 2 conditions are met, the woman should be kept on the ventilator. People in this state still experience things.
No advanced directive exists.
Look up persistant vegetative state. It is a condition, nobody knows whether the person is suffering while they are in that state or not.
How do you know she is experiencing things in that state? She cannot talk or express anything.
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For some reason or other, you are down in a coal mine together with 9 other people. There has just been an earthquake and the mine threatens to collapse on top of you all. The main elevator is broken. There is only a small one-person elevator that still works and it is very slow. So slow that there is a high likelyhood that the mine will collapse and kill you all before you are all lifted out. The group has for some reason decided that you, travis, will decide the order which you are lifted out of the mine. The people in the mine are as follows:
- Escaped convict (You don't know what he was in for, all you know is that he has the orange jump suit on)
- Cancer patient with 3 more months to live
- Father of 4 kids
- Pregnant lady
- 4 year old girl
- Your best friend
- A lady who suffers from severe claustrophobia and is possibly not able to get up without freaking out (meaning she might end up spending a lot of time getting into the elevator and may be unable to get off the elevator at the top, therefore ending up coming down again. And she will absolutely not be able to get on by herself at the end.)
- Yourself
- Slayers Boxer
- A man with a suit and tie that offers you $100,000 to let him out 1st or $25,000 for the 2nd spot.
What order do they ascend?
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Is existence a state of being, or an attribute?
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I still cannot understand existence.
Existence almost seems faith based - I am, because.
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On October 06 2008 08:01 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 07:56 babypo0 wrote:i will claim sancturary under travis's thread, which don't seemed to get as closed as often as other ppl's topics about religion or other controvorsial stuff. a great book presenting the christian side thru philosophy quite logically is C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. he starts out assuming nothing about god, or religion. he goes thru a lot of fundamental existence, the rationalism, the implications of the existence of a thing called conscience, and then finally steps into whether the supernatural could exist or not. Recommended for all those who say Christianity is illogical, irrational, and the only logic relies in evolution. another eye openning bit of info: http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-Video-TotalOnslaught.htmllearn about Revelation, the occult throughout history, and where their bastion is now. I am watching this video, and at the very beginning the guy mentions that "jesus said that there is no way to god, except through him". I have heard this is Christianity before. What does this mean?
I think it means to be a "Christian" you must accept that Jesus is son of god and the messiah.
the rest is just follow what he said since hes the son of god.
so if you dont believe in Jesus, youre not a Christian by definition.
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I'm writing an essay on some similarities between Hesiod's Theogony and the first few chapters of Genesis. I guess it says some interesting stuff that could prompt discussion, so would you guys mind if i posted it here when i'm done?
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On October 06 2008 08:01 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 07:56 babypo0 wrote:i will claim sancturary under travis's thread, which don't seemed to get as closed as often as other ppl's topics about religion or other controvorsial stuff. a great book presenting the christian side thru philosophy quite logically is C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. he starts out assuming nothing about god, or religion. he goes thru a lot of fundamental existence, the rationalism, the implications of the existence of a thing called conscience, and then finally steps into whether the supernatural could exist or not. Recommended for all those who say Christianity is illogical, irrational, and the only logic relies in evolution. another eye openning bit of info: http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-Video-TotalOnslaught.htmllearn about Revelation, the occult throughout history, and where their bastion is now. I am watching this video, and at the very beginning the guy mentions that "jesus said that there is no way to god, except through him". I have heard this is Christianity before. What does this mean?
You cannot understand God without understanding Christ.
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