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GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
October 05 2008 23:10 GMT
#21
On October 06 2008 08:07 stenole wrote:
For some reason or other, you are down in a coal mine together with 9 other people. There has just been an earthquake and the mine threatens to collapse on top of you all. The main elevator is broken. There is only a small one-person elevator that still works and it is very slow. So slow that there is a high likelyhood that the mine will collapse and kill you all before you are all lifted out. The group has for some reason decided that you, travis, will decide the order which you are lifted out of the mine. The people in the mine are as follows:

- Escaped convict (You don't know what he was in for, all you know is that he has the orange jump suit on)
- Cancer patient with 3 more months to live
- Father of 4 kids
- Pregnant lady
- 4 year old girl
- Your best friend
- A lady who suffers from severe claustrophobia and is possibly not able to get up without freaking out (meaning she might end up spending a lot of time getting into the elevator and may be unable to get off the elevator at the top, therefore ending up coming down again. And she will absolutely not be able to get on by herself at the end.)
- Yourself
- Slayers Boxer
- A man with a suit and tie that offers you $100,000 to let him out 1st or $25,000 for the 2nd spot.

What order do they ascend?


Wtf, ahahah rofl..
Kang Min Fighting!
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-05 23:12:59
October 05 2008 23:11 GMT
#22
On October 06 2008 08:07 stenole wrote:
For some reason or other, you are down in a coal mine together with 9 other people. There has just been an earthquake and the mine threatens to collapse on top of you all. The main elevator is broken. There is only a small one-person elevator that still works and it is very slow. So slow that there is a high likelyhood that the mine will collapse and kill you all before you are all lifted out. The group has for some reason decided that you, travis, will decide the order which you are lifted out of the mine. The people in the mine are as follows:

- Escaped convict (You don't know what he was in for, all you know is that he has the orange jump suit on)
- Cancer patient with 3 more months to live
- Father of 4 kids
- Pregnant lady
- 4 year old girl
- Your best friend
- A lady who suffers from severe claustrophobia and is possibly not able to get up without freaking out (meaning she might end up spending a lot of time getting into the elevator and may be unable to get off the elevator at the top, therefore ending up coming down again. And she will absolutely not be able to get on by herself at the end.)
- Yourself
- Slayers Boxer
- A man with a suit and tie that offers you $100,000 to let him out 1st or $25,000 for the 2nd spot.

What order do they ascend?



Well, the lady with claustrophobia should really not be in there in the first place so her fault she can stay. Same goes for the 4 year old girl what the fuck is she doing in a mine? Cancer patient also shouldn't be in the mine.

1. Pregnant Lady - Saves 2 lives
2. SlayerS Boxer - Are you kidding me?
3. father of 4 kids - He needs to support his wife
4. Best friend - he's my friend he deserves it.
5. Myself - come on
6. convict - if it's akon he needs to keep up with his konvict music
Hi.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 05 2008 23:15 GMT
#23
On October 06 2008 08:04 GrayArea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2008 07:53 travis wrote:
On October 06 2008 07:43 GrayArea wrote:
A middle aged woman is in a persistive vegetative state. She has some higher brain activity, but not a lot. Her family wants the hospital to keep her on a ventilator because they believe God will intervene and save her. The doctors diagnose that the prospects of her recovery are bleak. They want to remove her from the ventilator to make bed space for another patient. What should the course of action be?

This scenario includes: Religion (God), consciousness, morality, death, emotion, sensation, maybe more...



1.) Did the woman express prior wishes that would push the decision in either direction? If so, this should take priority.

2.) Is the woman known to be in torment as a result of her state? If so, she should be taken off of the ventilator.

3.) If neither of these 2 conditions are met, the woman should be kept on the ventilator. People in this state still experience things.


No advanced directive exists.

Look up persistant vegetative state. It is a condition, nobody knows whether the person is suffering while they are in that state or not.

How do you know she is experiencing things in that state? She cannot talk or express anything.



Using fMRIs

http://www.mrc.ac.uk/OurResearch/Impact/ReecentAdvances/2006-2007/MRC004277

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/15/071015fa_fact_groopman

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2007/09/25/is_she_conscious/

Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 05 2008 23:17 GMT
#24
On October 06 2008 08:07 stenole wrote:
For some reason or other, you are down in a coal mine together with 9 other people. There has just been an earthquake and the mine threatens to collapse on top of you all. The main elevator is broken. There is only a small one-person elevator that still works and it is very slow. So slow that there is a high likelyhood that the mine will collapse and kill you all before you are all lifted out. The group has for some reason decided that you, travis, will decide the order which you are lifted out of the mine. The people in the mine are as follows:

- Escaped convict (You don't know what he was in for, all you know is that he has the orange jump suit on)
- Cancer patient with 3 more months to live
- Father of 4 kids
- Pregnant lady
- 4 year old girl
- Your best friend
- A lady who suffers from severe claustrophobia and is possibly not able to get up without freaking out (meaning she might end up spending a lot of time getting into the elevator and may be unable to get off the elevator at the top, therefore ending up coming down again. And she will absolutely not be able to get on by herself at the end.)
- Yourself
- Slayers Boxer
- A man with a suit and tie that offers you $100,000 to let him out 1st or $25,000 for the 2nd spot.

What order do they ascend?


I would just sit there and not say anything.

Sorry I know it isn't a fun answer.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 05 2008 23:18 GMT
#25
On October 06 2008 08:17 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2008 08:07 stenole wrote:
For some reason or other, you are down in a coal mine together with 9 other people. There has just been an earthquake and the mine threatens to collapse on top of you all. The main elevator is broken. There is only a small one-person elevator that still works and it is very slow. So slow that there is a high likelyhood that the mine will collapse and kill you all before you are all lifted out. The group has for some reason decided that you, travis, will decide the order which you are lifted out of the mine. The people in the mine are as follows:

- Escaped convict (You don't know what he was in for, all you know is that he has the orange jump suit on)
- Cancer patient with 3 more months to live
- Father of 4 kids
- Pregnant lady
- 4 year old girl
- Your best friend
- A lady who suffers from severe claustrophobia and is possibly not able to get up without freaking out (meaning she might end up spending a lot of time getting into the elevator and may be unable to get off the elevator at the top, therefore ending up coming down again. And she will absolutely not be able to get on by herself at the end.)
- Yourself
- Slayers Boxer
- A man with a suit and tie that offers you $100,000 to let him out 1st or $25,000 for the 2nd spot.

What order do they ascend?


I would just sit there and not say anything.

Sorry I know it isn't a fun answer.



I grant you a 'Borrow my answer' Card.
Hi.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 05 2008 23:19 GMT
#26
On October 06 2008 08:07 KH1031 wrote:
Is existence a state of being, or an attribute?


Neither. It is a thing. It is everything.

Or it is the state of being

depends on how many assumptions you are willing to make, I guess.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 05 2008 23:19 GMT
#27
On October 06 2008 08:08 XCetron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2008 08:01 travis wrote:
On October 06 2008 07:56 babypo0 wrote:
i will claim sancturary under travis's thread, which don't seemed to get as closed as often as other ppl's topics about religion or other controvorsial stuff.

a great book presenting the christian side thru philosophy quite logically is C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. he starts out assuming nothing about god, or religion. he goes thru a lot of fundamental existence, the rationalism, the implications of the existence of a thing called conscience, and then finally steps into whether the supernatural could exist or not. Recommended for all those who say Christianity is illogical, irrational, and the only logic relies in evolution.

another eye openning bit of info:
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-Video-TotalOnslaught.html
learn about Revelation, the occult throughout history, and where their bastion is now.




I am watching this video, and at the very beginning the guy mentions that "jesus said that there is no way to god, except through him".


I have heard this is Christianity before. What does this mean?


I think it means to be a "Christian" you must accept that Jesus is son of god and the messiah.

the rest is just follow what he said since hes the son of god.
so if you dont believe in Jesus, youre not a Christian by definition.



are you sure? because that seems retarded.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-05 23:23:26
October 05 2008 23:21 GMT
#28
On October 06 2008 08:09 conCentrate9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2008 08:01 travis wrote:
On October 06 2008 07:56 babypo0 wrote:
i will claim sancturary under travis's thread, which don't seemed to get as closed as often as other ppl's topics about religion or other controvorsial stuff.

a great book presenting the christian side thru philosophy quite logically is C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. he starts out assuming nothing about god, or religion. he goes thru a lot of fundamental existence, the rationalism, the implications of the existence of a thing called conscience, and then finally steps into whether the supernatural could exist or not. Recommended for all those who say Christianity is illogical, irrational, and the only logic relies in evolution.

another eye openning bit of info:
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-Video-TotalOnslaught.html
learn about Revelation, the occult throughout history, and where their bastion is now.




I am watching this video, and at the very beginning the guy mentions that "jesus said that there is no way to god, except through him".


I have heard this is Christianity before. What does this mean?


You cannot understand God without understanding Christ.



Could you elaborate?

Does it mean that you can't understand god, without understanding god as a man?


Or does it mean that you can't understand god without understanding the life of christ?


Really, please elaborate.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 05 2008 23:21 GMT
#29
On October 06 2008 08:09 Meta wrote:
I'm writing an essay on some similarities between Hesiod's Theogony and the first few chapters of Genesis. I guess it says some interesting stuff that could prompt discussion, so would you guys mind if i posted it here when i'm done?


I look forward to it.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 05 2008 23:22 GMT
#30
On October 06 2008 08:21 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2008 08:09 conCentrate9 wrote:
On October 06 2008 08:01 travis wrote:
On October 06 2008 07:56 babypo0 wrote:
i will claim sancturary under travis's thread, which don't seemed to get as closed as often as other ppl's topics about religion or other controvorsial stuff.

a great book presenting the christian side thru philosophy quite logically is C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. he starts out assuming nothing about god, or religion. he goes thru a lot of fundamental existence, the rationalism, the implications of the existence of a thing called conscience, and then finally steps into whether the supernatural could exist or not. Recommended for all those who say Christianity is illogical, irrational, and the only logic relies in evolution.

another eye openning bit of info:
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-Video-TotalOnslaught.html
learn about Revelation, the occult throughout history, and where their bastion is now.




I am watching this video, and at the very beginning the guy mentions that "jesus said that there is no way to god, except through him".


I have heard this is Christianity before. What does this mean?


You cannot understand God without understanding Christ.



Could you elaborate?

Does it mean that you can't understand god, without understanding god as a man?


Or does it mean that you can't understand god without understanding the life of christ?


Really, please elaborate.


imo just tech science vessels they'll give you the answers you need.
Hi.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 05 2008 23:24 GMT
#31
On October 06 2008 08:22 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2008 08:21 travis wrote:
On October 06 2008 08:09 conCentrate9 wrote:
On October 06 2008 08:01 travis wrote:
On October 06 2008 07:56 babypo0 wrote:
i will claim sancturary under travis's thread, which don't seemed to get as closed as often as other ppl's topics about religion or other controvorsial stuff.

a great book presenting the christian side thru philosophy quite logically is C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. he starts out assuming nothing about god, or religion. he goes thru a lot of fundamental existence, the rationalism, the implications of the existence of a thing called conscience, and then finally steps into whether the supernatural could exist or not. Recommended for all those who say Christianity is illogical, irrational, and the only logic relies in evolution.

another eye openning bit of info:
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-Video-TotalOnslaught.html
learn about Revelation, the occult throughout history, and where their bastion is now.




I am watching this video, and at the very beginning the guy mentions that "jesus said that there is no way to god, except through him".


I have heard this is Christianity before. What does this mean?


You cannot understand God without understanding Christ.



Could you elaborate?

Does it mean that you can't understand god, without understanding god as a man?


Or does it mean that you can't understand god without understanding the life of christ?


Really, please elaborate.


imo just tech science vessels they'll give you the answers you need.


why, is jesus cloaked?
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-05 23:26:02
October 05 2008 23:25 GMT
#32
On October 06 2008 08:24 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2008 08:22 d(O.o)a wrote:
On October 06 2008 08:21 travis wrote:
On October 06 2008 08:09 conCentrate9 wrote:
On October 06 2008 08:01 travis wrote:
On October 06 2008 07:56 babypo0 wrote:
i will claim sancturary under travis's thread, which don't seemed to get as closed as often as other ppl's topics about religion or other controvorsial stuff.

a great book presenting the christian side thru philosophy quite logically is C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. he starts out assuming nothing about god, or religion. he goes thru a lot of fundamental existence, the rationalism, the implications of the existence of a thing called conscience, and then finally steps into whether the supernatural could exist or not. Recommended for all those who say Christianity is illogical, irrational, and the only logic relies in evolution.

another eye openning bit of info:
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-Video-TotalOnslaught.html
learn about Revelation, the occult throughout history, and where their bastion is now.




I am watching this video, and at the very beginning the guy mentions that "jesus said that there is no way to god, except through him".


I have heard this is Christianity before. What does this mean?


You cannot understand God without understanding Christ.



Could you elaborate?

Does it mean that you can't understand god, without understanding god as a man?


Or does it mean that you can't understand god without understanding the life of christ?


Really, please elaborate.


imo just tech science vessels they'll give you the answers you need.


why, is jesus cloaked?


ALL
ghosts are cloaked bud.

Edit: provided they have the research but it's only 200mins/vespene shouldn't be too hard.
Hi.
stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway868 Posts
October 05 2008 23:30 GMT
#33
On October 06 2008 08:17 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2008 08:07 stenole wrote:
For some reason or other, you are down in a coal mine together with 9 other people. There has just been an earthquake and the mine threatens to collapse on top of you all. The main elevator is broken. There is only a small one-person elevator that still works and it is very slow. So slow that there is a high likelyhood that the mine will collapse and kill you all before you are all lifted out. The group has for some reason decided that you, travis, will decide the order which you are lifted out of the mine. The people in the mine are as follows:

- Escaped convict (You don't know what he was in for, all you know is that he has the orange jump suit on)
- Cancer patient with 3 more months to live
- Father of 4 kids
- Pregnant lady
- 4 year old girl
- Your best friend
- A lady who suffers from severe claustrophobia and is possibly not able to get up without freaking out (meaning she might end up spending a lot of time getting into the elevator and may be unable to get off the elevator at the top, therefore ending up coming down again. And she will absolutely not be able to get on by herself at the end.)
- Yourself
- Slayers Boxer
- A man with a suit and tie that offers you $100,000 to let him out 1st or $25,000 for the 2nd spot.

What order do they ascend?


I would just sit there and not say anything.

Sorry I know it isn't a fun answer.

Any answer that is out of the box is good. Anyway someone else answered it and seemed to decide that all the people that didn't belong in the mine should stay there. I didn't quite get the logic behind that.
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
October 05 2008 23:30 GMT
#34
[image loading]


discuss.
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 05 2008 23:32 GMT
#35
On October 06 2008 08:30 stenole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2008 08:17 travis wrote:
On October 06 2008 08:07 stenole wrote:
For some reason or other, you are down in a coal mine together with 9 other people. There has just been an earthquake and the mine threatens to collapse on top of you all. The main elevator is broken. There is only a small one-person elevator that still works and it is very slow. So slow that there is a high likelyhood that the mine will collapse and kill you all before you are all lifted out. The group has for some reason decided that you, travis, will decide the order which you are lifted out of the mine. The people in the mine are as follows:

- Escaped convict (You don't know what he was in for, all you know is that he has the orange jump suit on)
- Cancer patient with 3 more months to live
- Father of 4 kids
- Pregnant lady
- 4 year old girl
- Your best friend
- A lady who suffers from severe claustrophobia and is possibly not able to get up without freaking out (meaning she might end up spending a lot of time getting into the elevator and may be unable to get off the elevator at the top, therefore ending up coming down again. And she will absolutely not be able to get on by herself at the end.)
- Yourself
- Slayers Boxer
- A man with a suit and tie that offers you $100,000 to let him out 1st or $25,000 for the 2nd spot.

What order do they ascend?


I would just sit there and not say anything.

Sorry I know it isn't a fun answer.

Any answer that is out of the box is good. Anyway someone else answered it and seemed to decide that all the people that didn't belong in the mine should stay there. I didn't quite get the logic behind that.



If you were in the mine for no reason at all than you might as well stay there. They had no business going down there so therefor it's there fault they are going to die.
Hi.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 05 2008 23:35 GMT
#36
On October 06 2008 08:30 Not_Computer wrote:
[image loading]


discuss.


quite clearly it is a problem revolving around the use of Valkyries in TvZ, as we all know corsairs destroy overlords well, now it's valkyrie's turn.
Hi.
Pwert
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States59 Posts
October 05 2008 23:39 GMT
#37
On October 06 2008 07:56 babypo0 wrote:
i will claim sancturary under travis's thread, which don't seemed to get as closed as often as other ppl's topics about religion or other controvorsial stuff.

a great book presenting the christian side thru philosophy quite logically is C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. he starts out assuming nothing about god, or religion. he goes thru a lot of fundamental existence, the rationalism, the implications of the existence of a thing called conscience, and then finally steps into whether the supernatural could exist or not. Recommended for all those who say Christianity is illogical, irrational, and the only logic relies in evolution.

another eye openning bit of info:
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-Video-TotalOnslaught.html
learn about Revelation, the occult throughout history, and where their bastion is now.



Amen!
hehehe...
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 05 2008 23:40 GMT
#38
On October 06 2008 08:30 Not_Computer wrote:
[image loading]


discuss.


well if pi was rational then circles wouldn't be so slick


and i just don't plain understand imaginary numbers

awesome pic tho
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
October 05 2008 23:42 GMT
#39
[
On October 06 2008 08:07 stenole wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

For some reason or other, you are down in a coal mine together with 9 other people. There has just been an earthquake and the mine threatens to collapse on top of you all. The main elevator is broken. There is only a small one-person elevator that still works and it is very slow. So slow that there is a high likelyhood that the mine will collapse and kill you all before you are all lifted out. The group has for some reason decided that you, travis, will decide the order which you are lifted out of the mine. The people in the mine are as follows:

- Escaped convict (You don't know what he was in for, all you know is that he has the orange jump suit on)
- Cancer patient with 3 more months to live
- Father of 4 kids
- Pregnant lady
- 4 year old girl
- Your best friend
- A lady who suffers from severe claustrophobia and is possibly not able to get up without freaking out (meaning she might end up spending a lot of time getting into the elevator and may be unable to get off the elevator at the top, therefore ending up coming down again. And she will absolutely not be able to get on by herself at the end.)
- Yourself
- Slayers Boxer
- A man with a suit and tie that offers you $100,000 to let him out 1st or $25,000 for the 2nd spot.

What order do they ascend?


1. myself
2. convict
3. money man
4. cancer
5. father
6. 4

-myself because that's what they get for being stupid enough to let me choose
-convict next cause
-money man on 3rd just to spite him for offering me money
-my best friend would somehow get out of there unscathed after the mine collapsed
-slayers boxer would just mine all the minerals in there, macro up, and dropship micro his way out
-claustrolady would probably complain and freak out until the very last moment then in a burst of willpower claw her way to the surface killing anyone along the way.
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
October 05 2008 23:49 GMT
#40
On October 06 2008 08:40 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2008 08:30 Not_Computer wrote:
[image loading]


discuss.


well if pi was rational then circles wouldn't be so slick


and i just don't plain understand imaginary numbers

awesome pic tho

The problem with imaginary numbers is their name. They arent imaginary at all. They are as real as 'real numbers'. Thats the first think you must accept before you can understand the beauty of complex numbers.
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