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So I've pasted this in the Letting Off Steam Thread, and I'm going to copy it over here too, in case any of you are interested. March 3rd has pictures too.
On February 25 2016 22:51 Epishade wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +My roommate has gone completely insane. I woke up at 6 am today to him making strange loud grumbling noises and then a huge bang. It really sounded like he might have shot himself but I was too scared to investigate. Luckily (or not) he turned on his computer 10 minutes later and started playing an old jurassic park video game he showed me a while ago with the volume playing through his speakers loud enough that I couldn't sleep. Every so often, I would hear him laugh maniacally like an actual crazy person. You would think it might be something in the game he was laughing at (along with making his weird noises) but he went into the bathroom a little bit later and turned the shower on. While it was running, he started laughing maniacally again, made that weird grumbling noise, then spoke to himself, "Yeah you like that you fucking idiot?" He slams every door he closes as hard as he can it seems. He left and came back to the dorm 4 times within a span of 10 minutes. I was fucking scared. He kept making grumbling noises every so often during this period of about 2 hours. The best way I could describe it is, you know how Sans talks in Undertale? It sounded exactly like that, except louder and higher pitched. Before he left the 4th time, he turned the air conditioning on and left again. I decided to make a break for it then. I don't have class til 12:30 and I left my dorm at 8. Didn't shower cause I didn't want to take the risk. I took a roundabout way to the student union and now I'm sitting in the bathroom typing this out. He was normal when I spoke with him yesterday. I'll just try to stay on his good side and lock the door from now on. I can't see getting an RA involved with no proof, and I don't want to get on his bad side either.
On March 03 2016 12:25 Epishade wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +Well, I got more news. During all this time that this happened, I was messaging my girlfriend about it. And I would also keep her updated on what my roommate was doing over the next week as things went by. Well, yesterday, he blew up. I had just gotten up and left to go get food at around 11:30, and then was going to head to class. I got to my class at around 12:15 or so, and seen that he sent me a message: + Show Spoiler +Sooooo, great. He broke into my room (which I kept unlocked, because, I really didn't expect something ridiculous like this), and he accessed my facebook, read through my private conversations with my girlfriend, and sent me that message. My head was kinda spinning, and I didn't really know what to do, and class was just starting, so I had to ignore it. When I get out of class, my girlfriend had sent me 5 different messages asking me if I was ok, and getting mad that I wasn't answering, and calling me multiple times. I picked up and she said she got an awful message from my roommate too, and was worried about me. So now I'm pissed that he also sent her a message (which included a confidential part about a slightly weird topic that me and my girlfriend were talking about - parasitic twins, that nobody else had heard our conversation of): + Show Spoiler +I had back-to-back classes though, so I couldn't deal with this. I went into my next class and logged all my accounts out of facebook though at least. This was around 1:50ish or so. I hadn't studied for my test because of this shit, and I really needed to get out, so I rushed through my 45 question management information systems test in 20 minutes and ran to my dorm to talk to the RA's and Residence Coordinator. I told them my roommate had sent me and my girlfriend threatening messages, and that he had accessed my shit on my computer and so on. I filed an incident report with them, and then went off to an interviewing event I had with my club. When I got back, I talked with the RA on duty and asked her to come with me to watch over as I packed up my stuff with my roommate there, so he didn't assault me or anything. My Residence Coordinator had already arranged a room change for me to another vacant room in the building. So I moved out all my stuff, of which nothing appeared to be missing or damaged, until I noticed the huge crack in my tv. Apparently, my batshit insane roommate had punched my tv, causing a huge crack right at the top of it. + Show Spoiler +I moved all my stuff out into my other room, and then called my dad to tell him what happened and that I was going to be doing everything I could to get this asshole. Well, after I set my computer up, I connected my phone to charge and had the idea to open up my browser history and see if I could find anything in there. I was absolutely disgusted. + Show Spoiler +This fuckhead had performed sexual search queries on my conversation with my girlfriend, looking up "penis", "naked", "undress", "bear" "sex" and his own name. I saved all the evidence and filed a police report today for my broken tv and his accessing my computer. Unfortunately, the cop I was talking to really made it seem like there wasn't enough "proof" that he accessed my computer. That I left my room unlocked, and so that, though it was likely my asshole roommate had accessed my computer, he couldn't press charges or anything on that from hearsay. I understood where he was coming from, but I was still pissed. After talking to him, he went to talk to my roommate, who denied entering my room, but did admit to breaking my tv. So then he brought us outside, and I got a no-contact order between me and my roommate (at my Resident Coordinator's suggestion, thanks) and he basically told my roommate he had to pay me for the tv he broke. I told them my tv was worth around $300 (it isn't made anymore, but I believe that was a reasonable price after what we payed for it). The cop asked my roommate how long it'd take before he had my money, and he said "idk, I don't have the money... two months?" lol. I exchanged eyes with the officer and shook my head no. So the officer said for me to give a timeframe, and I said 2 weeks, 3 at max. So now roommate has to borrow money to pay me back or something, idk idc. The tv's important to me, but I was soo glad to see him get SOME consequences at least. Sooo, we got no-contact orders, and that's about settled. Or so I thought... I logged into my facebook later today, and saw that roommate had actually sent me a message (before we talked to the cops), sending me PICTURES of private conversations between me and my girlfriend, from his account, as well as calling me a freak and other shit. + Show Spoiler +Well, I saw this just now, and I set out writing an email to the officer again, telling him I had new evidence that roommate was on my computer and so on. I'm still waiting to hear back from him. A lot of the pictures were of a very sexual nature between me and my girlfriend. I really want to nail this asshole with every charge I can levy against him now.
 
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wait, the 2nd photo only shows history of fb messages, and nothing porn-related.
how did he access sexual photos of you & your gf? did you have them saved on your desktop?
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On March 03 2016 12:48 parkufarku wrote:
wait, the 2nd photo only shows history of fb messages, and nothing porn-related.
how did he access sexual photos of you & your gf? did you have them saved on your desktop?
His search queries brought up sexual conversations between my girlfriend and I. I whited-out what they said in the last picture, but it was explicit sexual acts me and my girlfriend were talking about. No doubt he came across some pictures that we sent each other on facebook too though. He searched for "penis, naked, undressing, sex" and some other things in his queries that I got from my browser history.
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Your roommate is unbelievably fucked up :/ good luck.
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This is pretty funny honestly. Seems like your title is a misnomer, dude isn't an asshole, he's legitimately fucked in the head.
Anyway, pretty naive of you to not lock your door, protect your valuables and whatever. Just try to be more vigilant from now on and get him out of your life as soon as you can.
Best of luck!
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On March 03 2016 13:22 B-royal wrote:
Anyway, pretty naive of you to not lock your door, protect your valuables and whatever. Just try to be more vigilant from now on and get him out of your life as soon as you can.
trust no one.
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is it bad that i actually feel worse for him than you? not because he didn't do anything wrong, but whatever goes on in that dude's head or whatever causes him to act so irrationally is far worse than having a broken TV or some leaked nudes. broken TV > broken head. anyways, it must suck to deal with it... hopefully it'll be over soon and you won't have to see him anymore. good luck!
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That sounds INSANE wow. Fairly close to the level of fuckery that one of my college roommates used to pull, but damn if that isnt some next-level sketchy stalking and shit. I feel really bad for you.
Hopefully that asshole will be penalized for the stuff he did. That is seriously fucked up.
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So those weird noises/laughs he did he was mocking you? thats pretty funny 
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Hope you get this guy out of your life :\ sounds like a pain to deal with
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Wow, you certainly didn't win the roommate lottery. It's always a risk moving in with someone you don't even know (i.e. student dormitories). Try your best to get his insane acts out of your system that they won't haunt you later!
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I feel like that's the way you're going, but don't back down on this. Get him the fuck out of your life ASAP. This kind of people only make it worse over time. A friend of mine was dipping his dick in crazy, he ignored all of us, his friends, telling him to kick her out when she broke his door, and a week later, it was the TV, his phone and god knows what else. And I consider that the lucky outcome, this is the kind of story that ends up in the news with people stabbed.
So yeah, move out, maybe reach to his parents (this one can go either way, but some are reasonnable and aware, and depending on how your country handles this, they might be able to get him locked up in some psychiatric hospital), but yeah, try to cut loose in any way you can think of. Seems like timebomb material to me, definitely dangerous for you (and him, but hey, what can you do about that...).
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Dam dude,
Best of luck, Hope your doing alright epishade 
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Wow, this guy is more annoying than a DT drop.
Sneaking and breaking TVs, also taunting, I hope he won't hit anyone.
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On March 03 2016 16:27 Koivusto wrote:
Wow, you certainly didn't win the roommate lottery. It's always a risk moving in with someone you don't even know (i.e. student dormitories). Try your best to get his insane acts out of your system that they won't haunt you later!
Actually, I did know him for all of sophomore year. We used to eat together regularly and were friends, so I invited him to stay with me this year. First semester seemed fine, he was sorta normal then. Second semester is when he went nuts.
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On March 04 2016 00:09 Epishade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 16:27 Koivusto wrote:
Wow, you certainly didn't win the roommate lottery. It's always a risk moving in with someone you don't even know (i.e. student dormitories). Try your best to get his insane acts out of your system that they won't haunt you later! Actually, I did know him for all of sophomore year. We used to eat together regularly and were friends, so I invited him to stay with me this year. First semester seemed fine, he was sorta normal then. Second semester is when he went nuts.
I was going to say that I think you've not been telling us the full story.
Anything happen between you that's caused this? Like even slight things?
Most people don't just go crazy.
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oh wow no snark that dude is fucking crazy and creepy
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On March 04 2016 00:21 Linear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 00:09 Epishade wrote:On March 03 2016 16:27 Koivusto wrote:
Wow, you certainly didn't win the roommate lottery. It's always a risk moving in with someone you don't even know (i.e. student dormitories). Try your best to get his insane acts out of your system that they won't haunt you later! Actually, I did know him for all of sophomore year. We used to eat together regularly and were friends, so I invited him to stay with me this year. First semester seemed fine, he was sorta normal then. Second semester is when he went nuts. I was going to say that I think you've not been telling us the full story. Anything happen between you that's caused this? Like even slight things? Most people don't just go crazy.
At the end of last semester, he hurt him arm in a way where he wasn't able to take his tests, which meant he had to take them after we returned from Christmas break in January. When we got back, I asked him how his arm was, and he said it was still hurting, and that he was going to be stopping smoking weed, eating meat, and drinking coffee, because he thought it might make his arm heal more. He also told me that he tried to move out of his room for financial reasons and to take a semester off to let his arm heal, but he missed the deadline to withdraw and so now he was stuck with his room choice. I'd often hear him early in the morning on the phone with his parents sounding very stressed out about the situation. I think he stressed out so much he snapped and broke into my room and looked at my messages.
There's really nothing I did maliciously against him prior to this. I always let him use my printer for free whenever he asked, I'd invited him to play video games with me a couple of times out in the common area (he declined always). I asked him if it bothered him when I had my girlfriend over before, and he said no. I even warned him the day before that I'd be having her over whenever I did. I wasn't loud at night, my computer doesn't have speakers and I exclusively use headphones, meanwhile he's blasting music/game sounds from his speakers. He says I was singing, but I've never sung in my dorm. And he also said I was laughing late at night and keeping him up, but I have no idea what that's about either. He slams doors in the middle of the night when using the bathroom, while I closed mine quietly and respectfully. I also kept my room open and said hi to him whenever he came back, whereas whenever I came back, it was always to his closed door and him being by himself. Idk what his problem was. I talked to my girlfriend on facebook everyday, and so I'd usually give her the update on roommate situation, which I found at the time to be sorta annoying and disappointing, but acceptable. Then he broke in that one day and read all my messages about me telling my girlfriend about him and broke my tv and sent us both nasty messages.
I mean, you might think it was a little weird for me to be keeping track of him to my girlfriend, but we tell each other everything, and in confidential conversations. Plus, he seemed like he was really losing it, so I would tell my girlfriend what I thought about his current state. Things which he would never have known had he not broken into my room and looked at my messages.
I also did record his maniacal laughter, from the first part of my story, which happened around 7AM or so. Afterwards he said to himself, "Yeah you like that you fucking idiot?" Maybe he was referring to me in retrospect? Idk. It's scary as shit though.
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I mean, you might think it was a little weird for me to be keeping track of him to my girlfriend, but we tell each other everything, and in confidential conversations. Plus, he seemed like he was really losing it, so I would tell my girlfriend what I thought about his current state. Things which he would never have known had he not broken into my room and looked at my messages.
Talking about things that concern you to your loved one ? Nothing wrong or weird about that...
That laugh.... Oh boy....
Most people don't just go crazy.
But some do. I can't figure out the word for this, but it is a psychological term, when you always were psychotic, but never snapped enough for it to show up. Stress, drugs, all factors that can suddenly make someone "reveal" its inner fuckupery. It's not that this person was willingly hiding it, the desease ('cause that's what it is) just never was really detectable.
I have a friend like that, dude was pretty much normal, until he spent a week injecting cocaine to himself. That made him snap, and turns out he was bipolar. It was always in him, he just never reached the critical point where the illness took over. But it definitely took over him, he lost his girlfriend, his work, everything, ended up in a mental health institute and never has been the same since.
Im not saying for sure that's what's happening here, but it is something real. Some people are just timebombs waiting for the right context to loose it. And you don't want to be around when it happens.
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He does sound stressed but it also does sound like you could've triggered it a little. Like using headphones and laughing, I'm sure you could've done it unknowingly. And when a person says "no I'm not bothered" when you ask "is it cool if I have my GF over?", he could be annoyed but what is a person supposed to say "yes I'm bothered?"
Know little things added up on top of his major stress which led him to act like hostile to you. That's my best guess.
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Dude fucking broke his tv, spied into OP's private life, lied to a police officer about it, and here you are trying to find what OP did wrong about it. Well, you may be right, but I don't think it is relevant right now...
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Appropriate title. This is why I hate living with some people. Even if you were okay with them before, the conflicts just multiply by 10x depending on their mood and then it turns to this. If you get lucky with a good friend with common sense being your roommate, it makes it that much better.
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schizophrenia hits at a certain specific age and in a matter of months a person goes from pretty normal to needing constant medication. Schiz hits really hard at 19, 20, and 21.
![[image loading]](http://www.schizophrenia.com/photos/szage.onset.gif)
i always got my own room and lived off campus. campus life is a commie fantasy land.
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On March 04 2016 01:20 Cynry wrote:
Dude fucking broke his tv, spied into OP's private life, lied to a police officer about it, and here you are trying to find what OP did wrong about it. Well, you may be right, but I don't think it is relevant right now...
Yea, there is no doubt that what his roommate did is quite wrong and fucked up. Nothing really justifies the kind of shit he did.
However, it's still can be good to look at the situation and try to understand why it happened. Something like the laughter issue could have many causes; maybe the OP actually was giggling at night in his sleep, maybe the roomate is struggling with something, knows his laughter is wierd, but can't help himself...and then reading about how it was wierd struck a nerve and engraged him further. Could be lots of little things that from the OPs perspective were him trying to be curteous, but roommate is one of those people that just says okay even though he is actually not happy about it.
None of this is justification for the behavior we saw, and it may be there wasn't a tremendous amount the OP ought to have done differently...but it's always good to try and best understand why a bad situation arose in the first place.
On March 04 2016 03:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i always got my own room and lived off campus. campus life is a commie fantasy land.
To each his own I guess. I had a really good time living on campus the two years I did. No real problems and lots of good times, not to mention a really nice environment for making all kinds of easy friends. It definitely was nice though after two years to move out and have my own place with a few good friends after that though.
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So I just got a message from my girlfriend now that she received a nasty message from a stranger on facebook. Fml
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On March 04 2016 06:20 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 01:20 Cynry wrote:
Dude fucking broke his tv, spied into OP's private life, lied to a police officer about it, and here you are trying to find what OP did wrong about it. Well, you may be right, but I don't think it is relevant right now... Yea, there is no doubt that what his roommate did is quite wrong and fucked up. Nothing really justifies the kind of shit he did. However, it's still can be good to look at the situation and try to understand why it happened. Something like the laughter issue could have many causes; maybe the OP actually was giggling at night in his sleep, maybe the roomate is struggling with something, knows his laughter is wierd, but can't help himself...and then reading about how it was wierd struck a nerve and engraged him further. Could be lots of little things that from the OPs perspective were him trying to be curteous, but roommate is one of those people that just says okay even though he is actually not happy about it. None of this is justification for the behavior we saw, and it may be there wasn't a tremendous amount the OP ought to have done differently...but it's always good to try and best understand why a bad situation arose in the first place.
I do agree with you, really, but looking back at something is good to do when said thing is actually "back". And considering how his roommate is behaving, it may just be the start.
Sounds to me like you haven't dealt with crazy before. Regardless if this is true or not, I know I have, quite a few actually, girlfriends, closest friend, friend's girlfriend. There's nothing reason can do at this point, and IT CAN GET DANGEROUS. I'm going all caps here because this can't be stressed enough. Real danger, life at risk, etc. It's not about justifying anything at this point, it's about keeping yourself and your loved one safe.
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On March 04 2016 06:44 Cynry wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 06:20 L_Master wrote:On March 04 2016 01:20 Cynry wrote:
Dude fucking broke his tv, spied into OP's private life, lied to a police officer about it, and here you are trying to find what OP did wrong about it. Well, you may be right, but I don't think it is relevant right now... Yea, there is no doubt that what his roommate did is quite wrong and fucked up. Nothing really justifies the kind of shit he did. However, it's still can be good to look at the situation and try to understand why it happened. Something like the laughter issue could have many causes; maybe the OP actually was giggling at night in his sleep, maybe the roomate is struggling with something, knows his laughter is wierd, but can't help himself...and then reading about how it was wierd struck a nerve and engraged him further. Could be lots of little things that from the OPs perspective were him trying to be curteous, but roommate is one of those people that just says okay even though he is actually not happy about it. None of this is justification for the behavior we saw, and it may be there wasn't a tremendous amount the OP ought to have done differently...but it's always good to try and best understand why a bad situation arose in the first place. I do agree with you, really, but looking back at something is good to do when said thing is actually "back". And considering how his roommate is behaving, it may just be the start. Sounds to me like you haven't dealt with crazy before. Regardless if this is true or not, I know I have, quite a few actually, girlfriends, closest friend, friend's girlfriend. There's nothing reason can do at this point
In terms of resolution of the current situation, couldn't agree more. Only good for self learning.
On March 04 2016 06:44 Cynry wrote:
IT CAN GET DANGEROUS. I'm going all caps here because this can't be stressed enough. Real danger, life at risk, etc. It's not about justifying anything at this point, it's about keeping yourself and your loved one safe.
Here too, can't agree more. I haven't personally dealt with crazy, but I've seen it once or twice with friends enough to know that in the right (wrong?) situations things can get dangerously fucked up, in the most literal sense. Getting out is absolutely the number one priority. If anyone gave advice to wait to get out until after the OP has attempted to reflect on or work through the issue with the roommate, I'd say that's absolutely not advice to follow right now. Guy seems mad enough/unhinged enough/crazy enough that it needs to be taken seriously.
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On March 04 2016 06:20 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 03:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i always got my own room and lived off campus. campus life is a commie fantasy land. To each his own I guess. I had a really good time living on campus the two years I did. No real problems and lots of good times, not to mention a really nice environment for making all kinds of easy friends. It definitely was nice though after two years to move out and have my own place with a few good friends after that though.
i went to a co-op school so i was never in the city where i went to university for more than 4 months at a time. the vast majority of my classmates came from 2-parent families and nice big suburban houses. their parents paid for everything. i came from a single parent family in a poor neighbourhood. i paid for everything. i didn't really fit in and i used university as an avenue to finding a good job and launching my career.
i found these "university buddies" acted like they were best pals... until something was on the line and then they'd sell their "best pal" down the river for ten cents.
On March 04 2016 06:44 Cynry wrote:
Sounds to me like you haven't dealt with crazy before.
during young adulthood many males go from normal to not normal as the chart i posted indicates. using the term "crazy" adds an unnecessary subjective and emotional component to this already difficult issue. i'd avoid repeated use of the term. probably nothing wrong with using it while brainstorming up solutions though.
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On March 04 2016 06:29 Epishade wrote:
So I just got a message from my girlfriend now that she received a nasty message from a stranger on facebook. Fml
Wild guess but he is probably posting her photos online on some forum and giving them her facebook and maybe yours as well. Also how much of your history would have been on teamliquid? Because if he saw that and comes on here and sees this blog he probably would flip out even more.
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On March 04 2016 09:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 06:44 Cynry wrote:
Sounds to me like you haven't dealt with crazy before. during young adulthood many males go from normal to not normal as the chart i posted indicates. using the term "crazy" adds an unnecessary subjective and emotional component to this already difficult issue. i'd avoid repeated use of the term. probably nothing wrong with using it while brainstorming up solutions though.
Oh, you're absolutely right. Sorry if it hurt anyone, it actually is a very emotional thing for me so I didn't quite realized that it could.
Also how much of your history would have been on teamliquid? Because if he saw that and comes on here and sees this blog he probably would flip out even more.
Those a very good points o0
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Rough situation you're in. I feel like some of the choices you made weren't the right ones. In particular, not sure why you would keep your room unlocked and your computer open for anyone to use. A terrible idea. Even the best of friends can have a bad day or get tempted enough to check out your messages (I trust my friends but still have a password on all my stuff).
Second, you should've probably just tried to work things out originally. Maybe you should've just tried to explain to him that you were concerned about his mental state. Situation probably wouldn't have escalated anywhere to close to what it is now if you had just protected your valuable information from the start.
Either way, what's done is done. I would've recommended that you talk to him about your concerns before he found out about the messages but that can't be helped now. I agree with some of the other comments. It's probably best that you two don't speak to each other so that both of you are calmer.
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i dont know what your situation is now, are you moved out and secure somewhere else with secure accounts?
you need to go straight to your head of school and get him involved. this isn't a matter for some hall of residence woman....
you need to make it very clear to the most authoritative person you can grab that this guy is acting extremely dangerously and you have been afraid for your life.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT HE HAS BEEN PHYSICALLY VIOLENT WHICH YOU HAVE PROOF OF AND HE IS GOING THROUGH YOUR SECURE ACCOUNTS. EITHER OF THESE THINGS ARE GROUNDS FOR EXPULSION FROM SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!
you need to report this directly to your head of school , there is a very high liklihood of being a danger to himself and to others and you have a responsibility to make sure that someone who has the authority is correctly notified and does something about it
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On March 04 2016 01:02 Cynry wrote:Show nested quote +I mean, you might think it was a little weird for me to be keeping track of him to my girlfriend, but we tell each other everything, and in confidential conversations. Plus, he seemed like he was really losing it, so I would tell my girlfriend what I thought about his current state. Things which he would never have known had he not broken into my room and looked at my messages. Talking about things that concern you to your loved one ? Nothing wrong or weird about that... That laugh.... Oh boy.... But some do. I can't figure out the word for this, but it is a psychological term, when you always were psychotic, but never snapped enough for it to show up. Stress, drugs, all factors that can suddenly make someone "reveal" its inner fuckupery. It's not that this person was willingly hiding it, the disease ('cause that's what it is) just never was really detectable. I have a friend like that, dude was pretty much normal, until he spent a week injecting cocaine to himself. That made him snap, and turns out he was bipolar. It was always in him, he just never reached the critical point where the illness took over. But it definitely took over him, he lost his girlfriend, his work, everything, ended up in a mental health institute and never has been the same since. I'm not saying for sure that's what's happening here, but it is something real. Some people are just timebombs waiting for the right context to loose it. And you don't want to be around when it happens.
In the examples you said there's still factors at play for the person to snap, meaning they've not just turned crazy, something has happened in order for them to change that drastically. I have only met one person who's mood changed for no discernible reason, and that person was genuinely the most frightening person I have ever met and I lived with him at a boarding school. (He's now somewhere for the criminally insane)
On March 04 2016 00:49 Epishade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 00:21 Linear wrote:On March 04 2016 00:09 Epishade wrote:On March 03 2016 16:27 Koivusto wrote:
Wow, you certainly didn't win the roommate lottery. It's always a risk moving in with someone you don't even know (i.e. student dormitories). Try your best to get his insane acts out of your system that they won't haunt you later! Actually, I did know him for all of sophomore year. We used to eat together regularly and were friends, so I invited him to stay with me this year. First semester seemed fine, he was sorta normal then. Second semester is when he went nuts. I was going to say that I think you've not been telling us the full story. Anything happen between you that's caused this? Like even slight things? Most people don't just go crazy. At the end of last semester, he hurt him arm in a way where he wasn't able to take his tests, which meant he had to take them after we returned from Christmas break in January. When we got back, I asked him how his arm was, and he said it was still hurting, and that he was going to be stopping smoking weed, eating meat, and drinking coffee, because he thought it might make his arm heal more. He also told me that he tried to move out of his room for financial reasons and to take a semester off to let his arm heal, but he missed the deadline to withdraw and so now he was stuck with his room choice. I'd often hear him early in the morning on the phone with his parents sounding very stressed out about the situation. I think he stressed out so much he snapped and broke into my room and looked at my messages. There's really nothing I did maliciously against him prior to this. I always let him use my printer for free whenever he asked, I'd invited him to play video games with me a couple of times out in the common area (he declined always). I asked him if it bothered him when I had my girlfriend over before, and he said no. I even warned him the day before that I'd be having her over whenever I did. I wasn't loud at night, my computer doesn't have speakers and I exclusively use headphones, meanwhile he's blasting music/game sounds from his speakers. He says I was singing, but I've never sung in my dorm. And he also said I was laughing late at night and keeping him up, but I have no idea what that's about either. He slams doors in the middle of the night when using the bathroom, while I closed mine quietly and respectfully. I also kept my room open and said hi to him whenever he came back, whereas whenever I came back, it was always to his closed door and him being by himself. Idk what his problem was. I talked to my girlfriend on facebook everyday, and so I'd usually give her the update on roommate situation, which I found at the time to be sorta annoying and disappointing, but acceptable. Then he broke in that one day and read all my messages about me telling my girlfriend about him and broke my tv and sent us both nasty messages. I mean, you might think it was a little weird for me to be keeping track of him to my girlfriend, but we tell each other everything, and in confidential conversations. Plus, he seemed like he was really losing it, so I would tell my girlfriend what I thought about his current state. Things which he would never have known had he not broken into my room and looked at my messages. I also did record his maniacal laughter, from the first part of my story, which happened around 7AM or so. Afterwards he said to himself, "Yeah you like that you fucking idiot?" Maybe he was referring to me in retrospect? Idk. It's scary as shit though. + Show Spoiler +https://youtu.be/8PyRYux0eNo
That really bit makes me feel like a misunderstanding has taken place between you, but I could just be reading into your writing too much.
Couple of questions, was the room to your door shut but not locked or was it slightly open or even fully open? Secondly with the computer was the screen likely to have been on and with facebook either open or active in a tab? Does he ever when he's about to leave knock on your door or poke his head round to say he's leaving?
Let me paint a different picture.
For lack of name I will call your roommate "Crazy"
Crazy gets up to leave his room and go to a class or wherever he needs to be, as per usual he knocks on your slightly ajar door to say he's going, as he pokes his head round the corner of your door he sees facebook up on your computer screen. He deliberates whether to take a look but because of his fragile mental state/paranoia he decides to see if anything is said about him. The chain of messages with your girlfriend is open, he sees lots of talk about him with things that were said to you in confidence being shared to a third party. This tips crazy into being crazy, he punches your screen and paces around your room wondering what to do about it. He decides to see if he can find any leverage against you and starts to search your facebook for anything incriminating.
Now if set out like this (albeit being as favorable to crazy as possible) you can see that each of his actions is a direct consequence of another circumstance, making him less crazy and more fragile/unstable.
His laughter is strange but it's not what I would call crazy, there's a comedown of the laugh at the end, it's not an abrupt ending not to mention the echo of a bathroom environment can distort the sound a bit. Think of the amount of times something hilarious happened like 5 minutes ago and when you think about it again you can't help but to laugh.
On March 04 2016 03:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:schizophrenia hits at a certain specific age and in a matter of months a person goes from pretty normal to needing constant medication. Schiz hits really hard at 19, 20, and 21. i always got my own room and lived off campus. campus life is a commie fantasy land.
I think you're probably correct. OP mentioned that the guy smoked weed, and with lots of underlying mental disorders weed can be a strong trigger for schizophrenia. (Part of the reason I've not touched the stuff)
On March 04 2016 06:29 Epishade wrote:
So I just got a message from my girlfriend now that she received a nasty message from a stranger on facebook. Fml
I would recommend changing all settings to private or friends only for the time being.
On March 04 2016 11:06 Cynry wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 09:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 04 2016 06:44 Cynry wrote:
Sounds to me like you haven't dealt with crazy before. during young adulthood many males go from normal to not normal as the chart i posted indicates. using the term "crazy" adds an unnecessary subjective and emotional component to this already difficult issue. i'd avoid repeated use of the term. probably nothing wrong with using it while brainstorming up solutions though. Oh, you're absolutely right. Sorry if it hurt anyone, it actually is a very emotional thing for me so I didn't quite realized that it could. Show nested quote + Also how much of your history would have been on teamliquid? Because if he saw that and comes on here and sees this blog he probably would flip out even more. Those a very good points o0
As someone who has more than once been referred to as crazy I don't think that it's anything to be PC about, crazy as a word roughly means: Someone who is acting in an unpredictable and aggressive manner. Which in this situation I think sums up the person pretty well.
Personally I think the best course of action would be to contact his parents and either have a face to face conversation or a skype call you want to be able to convey the emotions effectively. Your roommate obviously values them if he talks to them on a frequent basis even if it's for stressful calls. You probably want to get them to investigate his mental health. (Which may be a struggle as I can imagine it would be costly in the US)
You've already escalated the situation (which I wouldn't have recommended) there's little negative to going further and contacting his parents.
I would also use a program like tineye to scour the internet for those photos. (Side point if any of them were taken when you or your gf were under 18 you can get him with a hefty sentence for distributing child pornography)
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Jesus tapdancing Christ is that terrifying/horrible.
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in addition to police make sure you file soemthing with the school
if your school has its own 'police' might want to go give a call to whatever is the local cops and stress the physical violence etc
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On March 04 2016 11:06 Cynry wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 09:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 04 2016 06:44 Cynry wrote:
Sounds to me like you haven't dealt with crazy before. during young adulthood many males go from normal to not normal as the chart i posted indicates. using the term "crazy" adds an unnecessary subjective and emotional component to this already difficult issue. i'd avoid repeated use of the term. probably nothing wrong with using it while brainstorming up solutions though. Oh, you're absolutely right. Sorry if it hurt anyone, it actually is a very emotional thing for me so I didn't quite realized that it could. Show nested quote + Also how much of your history would have been on teamliquid? Because if he saw that and comes on here and sees this blog he probably would flip out even more. Those a very good points o0
no probs man.. like i alluded to in my post .. during "brainstorming sessions" its totally cool to just express urself in an uncensored way. and the tone of your post seemed like it was "brainstorming" as opposed to some kind of sober/accurate assessment of his condition.
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Your roommate is beyond the asshole level.
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I am fascinated hahaha
Honestly I think parkufarku has a very good point
On March 04 2016 01:04 parkufarku wrote:
He does sound stressed but it also does sound like you could've triggered it a little. Like using headphones and laughing, I'm sure you could've done it unknowingly. And when a person says "no I'm not bothered" when you ask "is it cool if I have my GF over?", he could be annoyed but what is a person supposed to say "yes I'm bothered?"
Know little things added up on top of his major stress which led him to act like hostile to you. That's my best guess.
I mean he might be 100% nuts but I seriously think he's probably less so and his "politeness", passivity and passive aggressive behaviour coupled with your possible insensitivity over a long time might have tipped him over. I am not saying this out of any malice but rather because the information might be useful for you in the future.
I am personally interested in your reflection on this matter too.
I can see from the search query for the keywords in your FB, by the way he was spelling things that he was definitely at an unstable state (probably due to anger). People in that state do things that they wouldn't do normally.
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normal people say yes could you stay at her place tonight, or could you not make so much noise late. regardless of how annoying that may or may not be, his roomates a fuckin weirdo
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How did he get to your computer and then to your facebook? You have no passwords set anywhere?
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On March 05 2016 07:08 HornyHerring wrote:
How did he get to your computer and then to your facebook? You have no passwords set anywhere?
someone check his TL password quick!
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Man, you guys just keep trying to pin some of the blame on me. Roommate never told me a damn thing that I was bothering him. I asked him if he had any problems with anything and he said no. What more do you want me to do? Break into HIS room and see if he's writing things about me so that I'll know I'm annoying him? Jesus, I can't read minds. Yes, I should have been more careful with my computer security, but damn.
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I'm not pinning the blame on you, you can't be blamed for someone breaking into your room, in the same way someone wouldn't be blamed for having his car stolen. But let me tell you this - this might have been mitigated if you were following some basic security guidelines. Facebook has incredible amount of information that can be a powerful tool in hands of a skilled person. You've got to excuse me for being like that - I work in infosec and see this everyday.
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On March 05 2016 12:50 Epishade wrote:
Man, you guys just keep trying to pin some of the blame on me. Roommate never told me a damn thing that I was bothering him. I asked him if he had any problems with anything and he said no. What more do you want me to do? Break into HIS room and see if he's writing things about me so that I'll know I'm annoying him? Jesus, I can't read minds. Yes, I should have been more careful with my computer security, but damn.
Nobody is trying to blame anyone.
Many people are too passive or "nice" to confront people about a problem they are having, as in saying something like "No, I really don't want your Gf to come over". If he's Asian it's a lot more likely that he has this personality.
Basically it boils down to this: Think about it. Is he 100% nuts and irrational? (You said that he seemed ok in the past.) Or did something happen that made him behave this way?
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On March 05 2016 12:50 Epishade wrote:
Man, you guys just keep trying to pin some of the blame on me. Roommate never told me a damn thing that I was bothering him. I asked him if he had any problems with anything and he said no. What more do you want me to do? Break into HIS room and see if he's writing things about me so that I'll know I'm annoying him? Jesus, I can't read minds. Yes, I should have been more careful with my computer security, but damn.
I'm quite appalled about that too... I don't understand what they are doing/trying to achieve here, but I'm not sure benevolence is amongst it.
How are you doing now ? Did you talk about your issue to your entourage ?
Basically it boils down to this: Think about it. Is he 100% nuts and irrational? (You said that he seemed ok in the past.) Or did something happen that made him behave this way?
Like, really ? That's a heavily biased question, and again, a totally irrelevant one. Most of you that posted this kind of message seem to believe for sure that his roomie is just a shy dude, that can't express himself when something bothers him. So like you, I guess ?
Basically it boils down to this: if you're trying to prove a point to the OP about something you think is true, just shut up please.
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On March 05 2016 18:49 Cynry wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 12:50 Epishade wrote:
Man, you guys just keep trying to pin some of the blame on me. Roommate never told me a damn thing that I was bothering him. I asked him if he had any problems with anything and he said no. What more do you want me to do? Break into HIS room and see if he's writing things about me so that I'll know I'm annoying him? Jesus, I can't read minds. Yes, I should have been more careful with my computer security, but damn. I'm quite appalled about that too... I don't understand what they are doing/trying to achieve here, but I'm not sure benevolence is amongst it. How are you doing now ? Did you talk about your issue to your entourage ? Show nested quote +Basically it boils down to this: Think about it. Is he 100% nuts and irrational? (You said that he seemed ok in the past.) Or did something happen that made him behave this way?
Like, really ? That's a heavily biased question, and again, a totally irrelevant one. Most of you that posted this kind of message seem to believe for sure that his roomie is just a shy dude, that can't express himself when something bothers him. So like you, I guess ?Basically it boils down to this: if you're trying to prove a point to the OP about something you think is true, just shut up please.
Oooh the burn!
What makes for more interesting conversation, consoling someone about a situation in life or discussing the rationale behind the actions of his roommate?
@Epishade, no one is blaming you for anything what the guy did was unreasonable/crazy but in his head it had some rational if you want a resolution that is fair for both parties (getting the other guy arrested when/if he's suffering from mental health problems is not exactly fair or helpful to him) then you want to work out why this guy is acting this way it's not like it's first meeting the guy has changed.
Contact his parents and get their help to resolve the issue.
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This is a blog, man, Epishade's. The purpose of blog posts is not always to start the most interesting conversations (about which I agree with you), it's for its owner to express himself. It's fine to turn it the way you want, because free speech etc, but it's definitely not the most sensitive/empathic way to go about it.
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On March 05 2016 18:49 Cynry wrote:Show nested quote +Basically it boils down to this: Think about it. Is he 100% nuts and irrational? (You said that he seemed ok in the past.) Or did something happen that made him behave this way?
Like, really ? That's a heavily biased question, and again, a totally irrelevant one. Most of you that posted this kind of message seem to believe for sure that his roomie is just a shy dude, that can't express himself when something bothers him. So like you, I guess ?Basically it boils down to this: if you're trying to prove a point to the OP about something you think is true, just shut up please.
That was the most objective thing anybody can say about the situation. I merely listed out possibilities. You didn't say how it's biased at all and instead deflected something completely irrelevant onto me like you're so indignant that we're attacking Epi or something.
And, it's not that he might be shy or can't express himself. Either you didn't even understand the point or you just wrote badly.
On March 06 2016 01:30 Cynry wrote:
This is a blog, man, Epishade's. The purpose of blog posts is not always to start the most interesting conversations (about which I agree with you), it's for its owner to express himself. It's fine to turn it the way you want, because free speech etc, but it's definitely not the most sensitive/empathic way to go about it.
Come on again, stop treating him like he's your baby who needs your protection. He's a grown man attending college. It's different for Epishade himself can tell me to shut up if he doesn't care, and I will out of respect. My post was to correct a misunderstanding that we were "out to get him".
On March 05 2016 22:30 Linear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 18:49 Cynry wrote:On March 05 2016 12:50 Epishade wrote:
Man, you guys just keep trying to pin some of the blame on me. Roommate never told me a damn thing that I was bothering him. I asked him if he had any problems with anything and he said no. What more do you want me to do? Break into HIS room and see if he's writing things about me so that I'll know I'm annoying him? Jesus, I can't read minds. Yes, I should have been more careful with my computer security, but damn. I'm quite appalled about that too... I don't understand what they are doing/trying to achieve here, but I'm not sure benevolence is amongst it. How are you doing now ? Did you talk about your issue to your entourage ? Basically it boils down to this: Think about it. Is he 100% nuts and irrational? (You said that he seemed ok in the past.) Or did something happen that made him behave this way?
Like, really ? That's a heavily biased question, and again, a totally irrelevant one. Most of you that posted this kind of message seem to believe for sure that his roomie is just a shy dude, that can't express himself when something bothers him. So like you, I guess ?Basically it boils down to this: if you're trying to prove a point to the OP about something you think is true, just shut up please. Oooh the burn!
hahahaha
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On March 05 2016 22:30 Linear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 18:49 Cynry wrote:On March 05 2016 12:50 Epishade wrote:
Man, you guys just keep trying to pin some of the blame on me. Roommate never told me a damn thing that I was bothering him. I asked him if he had any problems with anything and he said no. What more do you want me to do? Break into HIS room and see if he's writing things about me so that I'll know I'm annoying him? Jesus, I can't read minds. Yes, I should have been more careful with my computer security, but damn. I'm quite appalled about that too... I don't understand what they are doing/trying to achieve here, but I'm not sure benevolence is amongst it. How are you doing now ? Did you talk about your issue to your entourage ? Basically it boils down to this: Think about it. Is he 100% nuts and irrational? (You said that he seemed ok in the past.) Or did something happen that made him behave this way?
Like, really ? That's a heavily biased question, and again, a totally irrelevant one. Most of you that posted this kind of message seem to believe for sure that his roomie is just a shy dude, that can't express himself when something bothers him. So like you, I guess ?Basically it boils down to this: if you're trying to prove a point to the OP about something you think is true, just shut up please. Oooh the burn!What makes for more interesting conversation, consoling someone about a situation in life or discussing the rationale behind the actions of his roommate? @Epishade, no one is blaming you for anything what the guy did was unreasonable/crazy but in his head it had some rational if you want a resolution that is fair for both parties (getting the other guy arrested when/if he's suffering from mental health problems is not exactly fair or helpful to him) then you want to work out why this guy is acting this way it's not like it's first meeting the guy has changed. Contact his parents and get their help to resolve the issue.
what the fuck is this bullshit
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On March 06 2016 10:01 QuanticHawk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 22:30 Linear wrote:On March 05 2016 18:49 Cynry wrote:On March 05 2016 12:50 Epishade wrote:
Man, you guys just keep trying to pin some of the blame on me. Roommate never told me a damn thing that I was bothering him. I asked him if he had any problems with anything and he said no. What more do you want me to do? Break into HIS room and see if he's writing things about me so that I'll know I'm annoying him? Jesus, I can't read minds. Yes, I should have been more careful with my computer security, but damn. I'm quite appalled about that too... I don't understand what they are doing/trying to achieve here, but I'm not sure benevolence is amongst it. How are you doing now ? Did you talk about your issue to your entourage ? Basically it boils down to this: Think about it. Is he 100% nuts and irrational? (You said that he seemed ok in the past.) Or did something happen that made him behave this way?
Like, really ? That's a heavily biased question, and again, a totally irrelevant one. Most of you that posted this kind of message seem to believe for sure that his roomie is just a shy dude, that can't express himself when something bothers him. So like you, I guess ?Basically it boils down to this: if you're trying to prove a point to the OP about something you think is true, just shut up please. Oooh the burn!What makes for more interesting conversation, consoling someone about a situation in life or discussing the rationale behind the actions of his roommate? @Epishade, no one is blaming you for anything what the guy did was unreasonable/crazy but in his head it had some rational if you want a resolution that is fair for both parties (getting the other guy arrested when/if he's suffering from mental health problems is not exactly fair or helpful to him) then you want to work out why this guy is acting this way it's not like it's first meeting the guy has changed. Contact his parents and get their help to resolve the issue. what the fuck is this bullshit
Which part is that directed at? Either way I'm getting the vibe you will vote trump, interpret that how you want.
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Wow, so you (linear and jiexan) still seem to believe this is somewhat about winning an argument/proving a point. That's just fucked up to be honest. I'm done derailing this thread further, and sorry to Epishade for turning this into a somewhat personal war, but what can I say, I'm just baffled.
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