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That was among the most inspired and straight-from-the-heart pieces of reading ive probably ever gone thru. Kinda in a stupor after re-readin it. GJ Fluff. GJ Liquid. FIGHTING!
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Nedereden
777 Posts
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Autotroph
United Kingdom940 Posts
On March 12 2014 20:37 Delphiki wrote: you wanted so much to be a leader you've forgotten what being a leader means Precisely. As people have been saying, this seems very much like a stream-of-consciousness release of emotion, so I think picking it apart is kinda pointless. But I still think it reveals quite a lot of important stuff about you and the team. Your desire to be successful in your chosen field is the highest goal someone can have IMO and it's very admirable that you've dedicated so much in pursuit of it. It has consumed you, however, and you have allowed your drive for success to become one-dimensional and myopic. The way you treat 'success' and 'leadership' as buzzwords, the way you worship these nebulous concepts has blinded you and prevented you from actually doing what you need to in pursuit of the real, tangible goals of your field. This plays into the negative emotions caused by defeat and failure, and the cycle of loss reinforces your incorrect view that only FLUFF can solve the problems of the team, that if only you were in charge this would never have happened. I think one of the biggest lessons you learn in the transition from child to adult is that mistakes are permanent: when you're a kid and you knock your Lego tower down a parent or teacher magically rebuilds it, when you fall down the slide someone scoops you up. What you have to learn when becoming an adult is that the effect of a mistake will remain, no matter what you do - instead of wishing for it to be how it was before an adult needs to learn to accept it, knowing that it cannot be reversed, and learn what lessons there are from it. ...and in the interval between initial failure and subsequent success, the the gap between who we wish one day to be and who we are at present must come pain, anxiety, envy, and humiliation. We suffer because we cannot immediately master the ingredients of fulfillment. De Botton | ||
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Nedereden
777 Posts
Precisely. As people have been saying, this seems very much like a stream-of-consciousness release of emotion, so I think picking it apart is kinda pointless. But I still think it reveals quite a lot of important stuff about you and the team. Your desire to be successful in your chosen field is the highest goal someone can have IMO and it's very admirable that you've dedicated so much in pursuit of it. It has consumed you, however, and you have allowed your drive for success to become one-dimensional and myopic. The way you treat 'success' and 'leadership' as buzzwords, the way you worship these nebulous concepts has blinded you and prevented you from actually doing what you need to in pursuit of the real, tangible goals of your field. This plays into the negative emotions caused by defeat and failure, and the cycle of loss reinforces your incorrect view that only FLUFF can solve the problems of the team, that if only you were in charge this would never have happened. I think one of the biggest lessons you learn in the transition from child to adult is that mistakes are permanent: when you're a kid and you knock your Lego tower down a parent or teacher magically rebuilds it, when you fall down the slide someone scoops you up. What you have to learn when becoming an adult is that the effect of a mistake will remain, no matter what you do - instead of wishing for it to be how it was before an adult needs to learn to accept it, knowing that it cannot be reversed, and learn what lessons there are from it. Let him who has never felt frustrated when failing throw the first stone. | ||
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Autotroph
United Kingdom940 Posts
On March 12 2014 21:10 Nedereden wrote: Let him who has never felt frustrated when failing throw the first stone. Just trying to share what I've learned after messing up a few times! | ||
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innociv
United States346 Posts
Did you forget about when you played in TI3 and people kept posting gifs of your sick plays? I'm pretty sure most people recognize you as like the best American support player. But there's lots of players, lots of games, and you don't always play your best. So sure, they're not going to say it every day like back during TI3. | ||
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Earll
Norway847 Posts
I think most people agree that fluff could be an amazing captain given the right circumstances, and I really hope such circumstances come along and lead TeamLiquid to its prime. Would be quite sad to not see Liquid at TI4. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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StrayWolf
Malaysia161 Posts
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CountChocula
Canada2068 Posts
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pNRG
United States333 Posts
Fluff would be cut, imo. | ||
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
you need a plan of action . idk how dota practice works but in broodwar you practice the same build 100x until you perfect it | ||
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Grettin
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
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carefreecfc
United States1 Post
I don't know if you read these comments. I would imagine you don't because you seem very self confident and seem to think you know best - which is fine; I think every successful professional in any field needs confidence in themselves that they know best and to trust their own abilities and decision making. Let me start by saying that I've been a massive fan of Liquid since the Complexity days. I was heartbroken when you guys lost in TI2, and your TI3 win over LGD gave me absolute chills while watching - it was a momentous achievement. I've been a huge sports fan for years (Lakers and Chelsea FC), and I can say easily that some of the emotional highs I've felt while watching Liquid play really well (comeback vs. MouZ with TC's Rapier Gyro, winning streak in early 2013, winning streak in late 2013/early 2014) match the emotional highs I've felt watching the Lakers win the NBA Finals or Chelsea winning the Premier League. Because of that, the recent malaise of the team has been extremely frustrating for a fan. Not because you guys are losing, but because it seems to me like you guys are trying the same thing over and over again, for no reason. You guys are stuck in the past. I lost count of how many times Liquid would draft ET for Bulba mid and put Qojqva on a Nyx offlane. A quote attributed to Albert Einstein says "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result". This is what I would say to Liquid right now. At least when you guys try to throw curveballs like drafting an Axe it actually results in some strong play and building an early lead vs Fnatic (even if that lead was blown by lack of coordination). It's painfully clear you guys need to change something up and try something different. I do agree with some of the other posters here that you should have tried to communicate with your team before posting this on a public forum. It does come off a bit whiny/desperate, but one person pointed out that introverts think very differently from extroverts, and it can be difficult for them to express their ideas of accountability: "Introverts count on themselves for accountability, because a lot of the time as "quiet" people we see our thoughts and opinions get washed in and away with the people who dont have this kind of issue. We never want to step on anyone's toes, even if what they do makes us incredibly angry. Given a leadership role, when we mess up, we normally see it fit to get out of the way and retract back in to our shells when someone seems unhappy with our decision, and a lot of people look down on us for that." . I would guess that this is a pretty accurate description of how you feel. So I encourage you, if it's what you truly believe, to confront your teammates and take control. Yes, this post is a start, but if you really feel you can help the team perform better than they are currently, show us, don't tell us. Don't forget that Liquid were (one of) the first teams to bring Visage into competitive Dota 2 (back at TI2 as CoL). You guys also brought Slark to the competitive scene and ET. You guys have always thrived being innovators and with creativity and cohesion as the core of your gameplay. Stop trying to fit into the mold and draft what everyone else is drafting. Dare to be different and be confident in your own strategies. I'll be here rooting for you guys. Liquid fighting! | ||
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Hds
France200 Posts
FLUFF go fucking lead this team, there is nothing to lose now, there was a time I was watching every Liquid games because of GOOD games, I didn't even know about anyone of you, nothing, but then I made my homeworks, and I even more appreciated you all. Now I find myself laughing at Liquid's match, I shouldn't, but that's how I feel when I watch your games, last throw at the Monster's drove me crazy against EG. Something needs to change, I want to be proud of TL, I want to be proud of my TL pennant, I want Tl to makes me fall in love with you again #nohomo, please, deserve your TI invitation, FLUFF, Bulba, Way2sexy, Qoqjva, and TC, I want to believe in you like I did, like less than a year ago. On March 12 2014 21:58 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote: This is attention-whoring at its finest. Really? So he should shut his mouth and let TL stuck in the shit they are? 5 months until TI4, you can do it | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
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Chiara_T
Indonesia3 Posts
so fluff has to be the leader in liquid, and no other can? | ||
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joker101
United States47 Posts
"Blog basically says: - I should of been leader, not you, this is why we lose. - Team doesn't like me  . I have good ideas but I am too quiet to speak up. I should be leader doe.- Whinge, teenage angstiness - Team shouldn't get an invite to TI (LOL). Thanks sponsors for your commitment! - I write 9000 words bios on why I should be captain. THIS DISPLAYS GOOD LEADERSHIP. I'm unable to position myself correctly within a small team to lead them to victory doe. - I don't have respect of my team, but I should be leader. - Whinge whinge whinge - Team doesn't communicate properly, but I think I can fix it by being the leader. I'll do this through my astounding communications skills. Introverts make the best leaders. - To show my amazing leadership skills, I'll write a blog and air the whole teams dirty laundry instead of discussing it in meeting. This will inspire confidence and grow trust/friendships within the team. - Veiled threats to leave if it doesn't get fixed. - Significant round-a-bout delegation of blame. - Admits to basically throwing in tournaments and wanting to lose. THAT WILL HELP THE TEAM. But, I am trying to help them bros. Let's endure losses during tournaments, that will teach you a lesson and help us grow. - More whinging. Kid I don't even think you could manage the counter at McDonalds. Leadership is for the strong willed, not introverted little boys who write tumblr-esk diatribe on their teams official page. How embarrassing." Well then. | ||
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quannguyen
Vietnam1390 Posts
Talk to your team, share with them everything and ask for their opinions. Don't just do things all by yourself. Liquid needs to change, you need to change, and now's the right time to do it! | ||
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