EPTTo answer your question.
I honestly don't care a super lot I think its just kinda disturbing that he goes through the steps to create a "worthless" section of his profile
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iNteLStyLe
United States346 Posts
To answer your question. I honestly don't care a super lot I think its just kinda disturbing that he goes through the steps to create a "worthless" section of his profile | ||
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andyrau
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 12 2014 16:41 i99 wrote: Even if they are you don't tag someone as worthless. pretty fucked up the truth hurts brother. | ||
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Thomas7575
United States10 Posts
I really don't know how things are in your head or with your team. I hope you can keep in mind that a lot of the things you feel come from the comparisons of your inner thought to the way your teammates present them selves on the outside. They all think about what's wrong and have their own theories. TC and WayTo#WhereDidTheSexyGo doubt themselves too. It sounds like you've got a hard couple of days ahead of you. Whatever you decide, I'm behind you all the way. Good luck, guys. | ||
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
On March 12 2014 14:30 LedZepp1109 wrote: That being said, loved seeing you guys at the monster cup; it's too bad Bulba's poor positioning had to lose you that second game though. Before I go in to what I really wanted to say I just had to comment on this: Yes, Bulba was out of position in the woods. Yes he got caught out. Yes it was bad. But saying Bulba lost the game for TL right there is a bit of a stretch for me. TL lost well before that, that was just the last drop. There were so many questionable descisions, from everyone on the team, in the late game. Bulba was a part of the problem, but not the biggest one. To Fluff: I know exactly how you feel. I've been a part of teams in different sports too, some which played on a high level, and the problem was pretty much clear from the "Behind the Horse" documentary. Now I'm sure it doesn't show the full picture, but when Hot_Bid was lecturing you all there was no reaction. And that's the worst thing that can happen in a situation like that. Sometimes you need to have a huge blow out. Hell when I played in the most successful team I've ever been a part of me and my best friend at the time would have physical fights during practise. He once, with skates on, directed a kick meant for my achilles tendon, something that would've crippled me for a long time. After a loss there would be shouting matches in our locker room, people calling eachother out and attacking eachother (with words). But you know what? After that everything might be tense for a day, but the next day when we met up for practise or a team meeting, everything was forgiven. Forgiven but not forgotten. Sometimes you need to break down bonds to make them stronger. Have a huge fight over Skype. Have everyone get real upset and say what they feel. Then take with you what they said, not how they said it. It will make your team better. From a liquid fan: GL, and I do hope you get that TI4 invite! | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
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iNteLStyLe
United States346 Posts
Feel free to message me | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
What makes a good leader is earning the trust and respect. Instead, a good portion of your blog is saying how you think everything would be so good if your team put their trust into you. You're asking the team and fans to trust you, that's never going to work. The next thing is you talking about how the team should have he same goal and work together, but you follow it up by saying that you don't care if this team goes to shit if it means that you can achieve your personal goal of being a captain on a team that trusts you and don't even mention the goals and thoughts of the rest of the team. I think a big problem is that you have a big ego and want to lead the team (which is no way a negative, it is definitely a good thing for a pro player), but you don't have the natural leadership and skills to take the team over. That's just going to result in you being bitter forever. | ||
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On March 12 2014 16:54 iNteLStyLe wrote: Well I'm giving away a TL pennant. Or deleting it Feel free to message me I bet you're in the worthless section because you're too sensitive to listen to others or look at your own play to improve by the way you're acting | ||
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hpty603
United States262 Posts
You gave TC command of drafting, you guys started winning, then you felt jealous, started to force yourself into drafting again, which just caused more problems. "Blameless failures" is stated right after you said you were a direct cause of the team going downhill. Afterwards you go into full autism mode and essentially start pouting that you aren't the leader. You mention that you aren't really friends with them but you aren't giving great reasons as to why they should want to be friends with you. You're probably right when you say you don't deserve a TI4 invite. IMO because EG is the better team right now. A team that literally just started back up. This team has better synergy and leadership already than Liquid. Primarily because of shit like you hoping your own team fails because you're pouting and caught in a fantasy where you were the true captain again. You demand respect and trust? You fucking earn that, you don't just expect people to hand it over for nothing. Look at TC, you gave him a bit of authority, and he thrived and gained even more influence because of it. That's how it happens. Becoming angry because people don't immediately respect you and do everything you say isn't being "emo" or "radical", it's being a petulant child. "I'm a dynamic person and I can be whatever I feel like so stop trying to put me into one of your idiotic categories." My first reaction of reading this line was that you're as immature as an angsty teenager. I've honestly always liked Liquid, back before Jinro was beasting in the GSL. That's not really the case after reading this since I realize the captain acts like a brat and essentially throws tantrums when things don't go his way. If I were one of Liquid's higher-ups, I'd want you off the team after reading this. Stop acting like a bitch and get a grip. | ||
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gosukiler
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bigglesbiggles
New Zealand30 Posts
As a fan who's been watching your team dynamics closely for some time, this post has been kind of written on your face in interviews for some time, as well as being a subtext in your blog posts. You seem to feel out of place on teams that you don't lead, but have doubts about your ability to have an appropriate social context for leadership. Every person on your team, of course, seems to experience some sort of will to lead ("inventing" things is a sort of leadership, for example, as is being a playmaker). With an autocratic view of leadership, I don't think you're gonna have space for every member to express themselves in-game. Leadership of a team is a variety of work, not inherently a higher form of personal stature. There's a lot of different elements to it (calls, drafting, strategic direction, tactical direction, managing interpersonal relationships) and I don't think you're gonna find any systems that have one autocratic leader to whose will everyone submits in every one of these aspects (be it in the domain of sport or in every day life) that aren't extremely toxic for at least one person involved. Yes, it's better if people just do what the call-maker says and accept their mistakes, let the drafter draft (with input) and play it out, but if done voluntarily these things are not submission to anyone's will. Your team has a lot of leadership at its disposal. Y'all just gotta put it to use in a way that doesn't invalidate people's contributions & abilities. Easier said than done though. + Show Spoiler + Also that tinker win against na'vi was the best shit ever. Just throwin it out there. | ||
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iNteLStyLe
United States346 Posts
On March 12 2014 17:03 Seiuchi wrote: I bet you're in the worthless section because you're too sensitive to listen to others or look at your own play to improve by the way you're acting I'm done talking about this. I hope TL figures their stuff out Gl. | ||
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
I think while friendship is nice, its not necessary to winning. Plenty of professional teams (NBA, NFL, etc.) win and its about execution and skill. Respect and trust is necessary but friendship is not. There should be one coach/leader making the calls and its not necessarily one player throughout the game, and may even be someone outside the game too. Whoever it is, should be someone who has the faith of management and must earn the respect and trust of his team. In your situation, whether this is the best way to do it will depend on how well you know your team and how they will respond. | ||
Liquid`Zephyr
United States996 Posts
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Kerm
France467 Posts
Hope things get better for you Fluff. | ||
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Omnishroud
1073 Posts
I mean sure, it could be better, but you're acting a bit dramatic for someone with a team in such a good position since its inception. Think of all the other teams who don't even have these problems and are facing 6th - 8th place every tournament and wont stop trying. I get it, the team has some internal issues (that you decided to vent in public for whatever reason) but despite it all you guys are still performing at the top. Somebody needs to sit down and sort that shit out and when they do you'll stop taking those 3rd-4th finishes and be sitting at the top. You're in need of a bit of a reality check tbh, your team might have internal issues you arent happy with and need to be fixed but to say all these things is a bit over the top with your stellar performance regardless. I mean, at the end of the day it just comes across as a hissy fit because you arent the leader anymore. | ||
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buckKeefe
United States63 Posts
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Thomas7575
United States10 Posts
On March 12 2014 16:42 iNteLStyLe wrote: I honestly don't care a super lot... It sounds like you care a lot about how a 19-year old felt about you a long time ago. I'm really sorry you feel that way. | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
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