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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 06:51:13
March 12 2014 06:35 GMT
#21
No offense fluff but after reading this, I think you are the problem, not the team. The fact that you are willing to sabotage your team just so you can become the leader just feels wrong. You expect something of your team when you are captaining but also fail to reciprocate when the captain is not yourself. Maybe you need to change yourself instead of changing the team. I dont have anything against you but thats my honest reaction after reading this. You should probably ask yourself what you couldve done if you actually tried in a lot of these games ( you can say that you tried, but clearly your heart wasnt in it.)
High Risk Low Reward
ctypewriter
Profile Joined December 2011
63 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 06:56:11
March 12 2014 06:53 GMT
#22
I'll admit, many parts of your blog/story are questionable at best, but you definitely gained a fan today. I'm absolutely amazed that you would be willing to reveal so much about yourself, both bad and good (and bad), and honestly, it impressed me a lot. You may not be very humble, nice, or optimistic person, but you came clean, and that in itself is more than worthy of my respect.

You know your mistakes already, so go and fix them. Grab your teammates and reveal to them what you've revealed to no one else. Make your deepest secret's become your bond between you and your teammates and never look back.

I'll be cheering for you ^^

Edit: Grammar stronk.
iNteLStyLe
Profile Joined September 2012
United States346 Posts
March 12 2014 06:56 GMT
#23
Im worthless guys I did it
#RoadToTI4
andrathebackbon
Profile Joined October 2012
Indonesia28 Posts
March 12 2014 06:58 GMT
#24
Well, I haven't logged in to my liquid for quite a long time but for the sake of writing this comment, I'm logged in now. First, as a believer of Liquid ever since the establishment of Team Liquid, I was a very happy guy and very supportive toward this team. Why? Because this team have the players that I know have the best quality and pursuing the same goal "To be the best that we can be". Watching Team Liquid for the first few months, I was like, "Yes! This team has shown how strong they are as a team!" As a fan, I was so proud and bought the pennant as soon as it's available in the dota2 store. Fast forward to after TI3, I knew that Team Liquid is going to be a better team if they keep playing together. But, here came the roster change. In the new roster, something essential that only the best teams have is fatally missing from this team. It's called the "chemistry of the team." 5 Individually super talented players are put together, but they do not share the same mindset anymore. As a result, their results are really not showing the best result anymore. Team Liquid, I love you guys so very much, but something within must be changed asap. Please show us why we should keep on believing in you guys.
Get Lucky - Daft Punk
sCFade
Profile Joined September 2010
307 Posts
March 12 2014 07:00 GMT
#25
It's not about being the best man for the job, it's about being the best man for the job out of the people who are there.
Restless-
Profile Joined May 2010
Malaysia86 Posts
March 12 2014 07:03 GMT
#26
It literally felt like I was reading my own story on some parts T_T. Hang in there FLUFF, never give up! I will always support you <3!
Huh?
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 12 2014 07:06 GMT
#27
I'm sorry you feel as bad as you do Fluff, but I can't say I've gotten a positive vibe from the blog. I really hope that you just forgot to mention that you allready did talk to your team and or your team manager about this but I doubt it given how thorough you expressed yourself.

It just feels hypocritic to give this rant to the public while you have to scrim for that many hours EVERY DAY with people you obviously do not trust with having the leadership which you feel comfortable with having.

Honestly, I'd sit down for a few days with your team and talk this shit out. Especially because of how you described the Monster invitational, I KNOW that feeling and you should react on it, I'd rather be on team with an honest asshole in the team that openly says he doesn't believe in the succes than someone who just keeps it all in. Then again, you might not be the only one feeling really shitty about your team situation.

I remember Synderen saying on stream that you should never drown yourself in the game and now you've been fed the same thing that you've had enough of for what has been since the TL 2.0. It doesn't even sound like TL 2.0 was a good breather for you.

Not that I am in any place to give you advice other than commenting your blog, but I would sit down and consider if the TI4 dream (with Teamliquid) is worth exhuasting yourself that much for.

I hope you get better, cheers, I'll be cheering for you
In the woods, there lurks..
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 07:12:09
March 12 2014 07:07 GMT
#28
I got the impression you were a bit arrogant from reading your past blogs. You wrote with such confidence about the things you would do, I was skeptical whether truly knew what it took. TL not doing well never surprised me.

In the documentary, after getting 8th place and into the money, everyone on the team felt satisfied with their performance. Sure, given the issues the team during the bootcamp and such, getting 8th doesn't seem bad. But really, I'm surprised no one outright said, as a competitor, that they were disappointed. Complacency: it's an issue I think all NA teams have impedes the scene. The only team that might prove to be an exception is the new EG.

Winning takes trust and sacrifice. Based on your writing, TL lacks both. Honestly, I don't believe you have what it takes to win TI. Best of luck in the future though. The Dota scene in general lacks competent captains and drafters, NA have none.
iNteLStyLe
Profile Joined September 2012
United States346 Posts
March 12 2014 07:09 GMT
#29
I don't get why anyone is rooting for fluff.

I am not cut out for pro dota yet I rooted him and supported him and he had me on a section of his friends list dubbed "worthless" I'm sure he thinks the same of all of you who support him.

Are you all that naive?
#RoadToTI4
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
March 12 2014 07:13 GMT
#30
On March 12 2014 16:09 iNteLStyLe wrote:
I don't get why anyone is rooting for fluff.

I am not cut out for pro dota yet I rooted him and supported him and he had me on a section of his friends list dubbed "worthless" I'm sure he thinks the same of all of you who support him.

Are you all that naive?


Maybe we're not all bitter fucks?
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
fascistfromhell
Profile Joined September 2012
1689 Posts
March 12 2014 07:18 GMT
#31
Well, as a huge TL fan, I have to say this kind of behaviour from a player is unacceptable. I'm sorry Fluff, ty for your services, but if I was the manager, you would be teamless right now.

There is no way the team atmosphere is going to improve after this. Maybe it's time to rebuild and start over.

Rebuild TL Dota.
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
March 12 2014 07:30 GMT
#32
This seems kinda weak :/
6 poll is a good skill toi have
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
March 12 2014 07:30 GMT
#33
On March 12 2014 16:13 GTPGlitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 16:09 iNteLStyLe wrote:
I don't get why anyone is rooting for fluff.

I am not cut out for pro dota yet I rooted him and supported him and he had me on a section of his friends list dubbed "worthless" I'm sure he thinks the same of all of you who support him.

Are you all that naive?


Maybe we're not all bitter fucks?

But honestly, tagging a bunch of people as "worthless" seems pretty fucked up. Although it was long ago and he maybe has deleted that tag by now, at least I hope so.
iNteLStyLe
Profile Joined September 2012
United States346 Posts
March 12 2014 07:31 GMT
#34
On March 12 2014 16:13 GTPGlitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 16:09 iNteLStyLe wrote:
I don't get why anyone is rooting for fluff.

I am not cut out for pro dota yet I rooted him and supported him and he had me on a section of his friends list dubbed "worthless" I'm sure he thinks the same of all of you who support him.

Are you all that naive?


Maybe we're not all bitter fucks?


So you're going to actively support someone who likely would consider you "worthless" ?


Do you have some sort of mental problem?

User was warned for this post
#RoadToTI4
Verator
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
March 12 2014 07:33 GMT
#35
Glad to see the liquid myth of everyone being best friends and a team of nice guys crumbling, its really doing more harm to their players/ team than it is helping.

Some other points: You can't be both a leader and an introvert, these are contradictory things. By definition a leader must be comfortable interacting with people regardless of circumstances, and tackling problems head on. You can't possibly lead effectively until you fix that problem first.

Second, if half the team isn't willing to get along with each other or simply can't, you should probably break up the team. But you need someone willing to be the asshole who kicks the people who aren't living up to potential or are causing problems. Yet again, the job of the leader of the team.

Your blog doesn't indicate anywhere that you're actually up to the task of forcing your vision upon other people who are confident and know your shit, and will question your decisions if they think they might be wrong. Your job as a leader would be to force your vision on the others, and make them see why your decisions are right. It seems like your old team was more likely just very submissive and let you do what you wanted without ever challenging that.

The players on liquid are smart, and have a lot of really smart ideas about the game, and will challenge ideas if they're unsure. This is how things are supposed to be, and the leader should be able to take this questioning and challenging and prove their ideas to the rest of the team in response.
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence. -- Bertrand Russell
Verator
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 07:35:41
March 12 2014 07:34 GMT
#36
On March 12 2014 16:31 iNteLStyLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 16:13 GTPGlitch wrote:
On March 12 2014 16:09 iNteLStyLe wrote:
I don't get why anyone is rooting for fluff.

I am not cut out for pro dota yet I rooted him and supported him and he had me on a section of his friends list dubbed "worthless" I'm sure he thinks the same of all of you who support him.

Are you all that naive?


Maybe we're not all bitter fucks?


So you're going to actively support someone who likely would consider you "worthless" ?


Do you have some sort of mental problem?


Maybe its an accurate assessment of some people with a history that supports a pretty negative label.
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence. -- Bertrand Russell
tenbird
Profile Joined March 2014
Korea (South)1 Post
March 12 2014 07:35 GMT
#37
hi fluff ive been a fan since fire, and i agree with you on the whole trust issue. i always thought mike was never the best player on a mechanical level. however what he brought to the team was priceless. he controlled the mood. mike trusted his teammates even when he wasnt trusted. i even told sam this. i feel when it comes to a player like you, you need a support partner who you can trust and someone that wouldnt question the shit you do. not to call you a nazi or anything, but someone who can be obedient. well this is all speculation, but this is just what i fealt after all this time following you guys. but what the hell would i know im constantly losing dota. i wish you and tl well, and no matter what anyone says your 8th place finish at ti beating lgd was amazing and i almost teared up watching you guys win.
yolo
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 12 2014 07:37 GMT
#38
On March 12 2014 16:31 iNteLStyLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 16:13 GTPGlitch wrote:
On March 12 2014 16:09 iNteLStyLe wrote:
I don't get why anyone is rooting for fluff.

I am not cut out for pro dota yet I rooted him and supported him and he had me on a section of his friends list dubbed "worthless" I'm sure he thinks the same of all of you who support him.

Are you all that naive?


Maybe we're not all bitter fucks?


So you're going to actively support someone who likely would consider you "worthless" ?


Do you have some sort of mental problem?

Are you saying you don't have people on your friendlist you consider worthless in terms of playing with?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
March 12 2014 07:38 GMT
#39
On March 12 2014 16:31 iNteLStyLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 16:13 GTPGlitch wrote:
On March 12 2014 16:09 iNteLStyLe wrote:
I don't get why anyone is rooting for fluff.

I am not cut out for pro dota yet I rooted him and supported him and he had me on a section of his friends list dubbed "worthless" I'm sure he thinks the same of all of you who support him.

Are you all that naive?


Maybe we're not all bitter fucks?


So you're going to actively support someone who likely would consider you "worthless" ?


Do you have some sort of mental problem?


Seeing as how the only hero i can play is clockwerk, and i can't even do that well, i'd say the 'worthless' tag would be well-justified :D
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
i99
Profile Joined February 2012
United States362 Posts
March 12 2014 07:41 GMT
#40
On March 12 2014 16:37 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 16:31 iNteLStyLe wrote:
On March 12 2014 16:13 GTPGlitch wrote:
On March 12 2014 16:09 iNteLStyLe wrote:
I don't get why anyone is rooting for fluff.

I am not cut out for pro dota yet I rooted him and supported him and he had me on a section of his friends list dubbed "worthless" I'm sure he thinks the same of all of you who support him.

Are you all that naive?


Maybe we're not all bitter fucks?


So you're going to actively support someone who likely would consider you "worthless" ?


Do you have some sort of mental problem?

Are you saying you don't have people on your friendlist you consider worthless in terms of playing with?


Even if they are you don't tag someone as worthless. pretty fucked up
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